Mafia de Cuba - Game 5.75 (Interrogation phase)

Blackberry · Post Post #175 (ISO) » Tue Dec 22, 2015 6:17 pm

Lilith & Stranger - y'all are confirmed henchman, I'll need your assistance in figuring out the Gamma/LLD/Ika mess after Gamma posts.

Blackberry · Post Post #176 (ISO) » Tue Dec 22, 2015 6:17 pm

Also, JDGA, please enjoy some rum on the house.

ForWhomTheJellyRolls · Post Post #177 (ISO) » Tue Dec 22, 2015 6:33 pm

Confirming, JDGA reveals a Loyal Henchman token. Blackberry expends his one rum token.

BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie reveals 11 diamonds. Interrogation continues.

lilith2013 · Post Post #178 (ISO) » Tue Dec 22, 2015 6:33 pm

how is SC confirmed henchman?

lilith2013 · Post Post #179 (ISO) » Tue Dec 22, 2015 6:34 pm

Well now he is, but how was he before the flip?

Blackberry · Post Post #180 (ISO) » Tue Dec 22, 2015 6:36 pm

In post 178, lilith2013 wrote:how is SC confirmed henchman?

SC is confirmed, trust me.

Blackberry · Post Post #181 (ISO) » Tue Dec 22, 2015 6:37 pm

I'll explain after Gamma talks.

*sits and waits*

ika · Post Post #182 (ISO) » Tue Dec 22, 2015 6:50 pm

*get in cab and does a drive by*

Blackberry · Post Post #183 (ISO) » Wed Dec 23, 2015 2:49 pm

Did gamma die?

Gammagooey · Post Post #184 (ISO) » Thu Dec 24, 2015 1:49 pm

Sorry, been sick and then was doing christmas stuff.

I took a henchman and BURIED the driver. Yeah it probably wasn't the optimal play but the first player being solely "do CIA/thief WIFOM or take henchman and remove CIA" imo turns a fun game about choosing what you want to be into playing to statistics.

Also, there were more than thirteen diamonds at the start. One of LLD/ika is CIA, and the other is a thief. It probably makes more logical sense for ika to be CIA given that he claimed driver, but LLD claiming the driver still being in there AND the wrong number of diamonds doesn't make any sense at all as thief.

Gammagooey · Post Post #185 (ISO) » Thu Dec 24, 2015 1:56 pm

actually since lld knows that the agent was still in there her saying something ridiculous to get thought of as a CIA agent does make sense as thief

It's complete wifom bullshit but I'd lean LLD as thief here, since ika wouldn't claim driver when it's not in the box as thief at all and lld just piggybacked on that

ika · Post Post #186 (ISO) » Thu Dec 24, 2015 2:19 pm

Gamma are you saying you removed driver chip?

Blackberry · Post Post #187 (ISO) » Thu Dec 24, 2015 6:52 pm

Ok I need the confirmed people's help with opinions on this jazz.

Obviously LLD is lying as there were 14 diamonds in bag. So I can scratch off her taking a henchman.

I personally think anyone would be an idiot to take the Agent as the first chip because it's super hard to get picked as taking diamonds.

Obviously 1 and only 1 took chips and *at least one* is an Agent/Driver. LLD did lie intentionally and dumbly (she claimed a chip was missing and that 2 roles were missing). She either didn't know how many chips there were to begin with or wanted to draw attention to herself.

lilith2013 · Post Post #188 (ISO) » Thu Dec 24, 2015 7:11 pm

It doesn't make sense for gamma to take agent and bury henchman, and since both chips were missing by the time it got to LLD/ika i think we can assume gamma is a henchman. I think ika is the thief and LLD the agent, because the number of diamonds that ika claims to have received and the number of diamonds that were passed to SC were the same. If he were the agent, I feel like he would make more of an effort to look like he stole something?? but idk.

Blackberry · Post Post #189 (ISO) » Fri Dec 25, 2015 6:16 am

In post 188, lilith2013 wrote:It doesn't make sense for gamma to take agent and bury henchman, and since both chips were missing by the time it got to LLD/ika i think we can assume gamma is a henchman. I think ika is the thief and LLD the agent, because the number of diamonds that ika claims to have received and the number of diamonds that were passed to SC were the same. If he were the agent, I feel like he would make more of an effort to look like he stole something?? but idk.

LLD lied about there being 13 chips. It is impossible for there to be 13 chips when it got to LLD. It was either 12 or 14, 13 is not possible though. I also realized going in reverse order gives the people before them a chance to confuse us more - probs not the best idea but oh well.

Blackberry · Post Post #190 (ISO) » Fri Dec 25, 2015 6:20 am

I've decided I think LLD is the Agent.

So either Ika is thief or Gamma is thief, but leaning Ika.

Anyone have additional thoughts before I send Ika on a date with the fishies?

StrangerCoug · Post Post #191 (ISO) » Fri Dec 25, 2015 6:29 am

Gamma couldn't have taken diamonds as per the rules if I understand them correctly. It'd have to be ika.

Lady Lambdadelta · Post Post #192 (ISO) » Fri Dec 25, 2015 6:39 am

gamma is lying

lilith2013 · Post Post #193 (ISO) » Fri Dec 25, 2015 6:44 am

About?

Lady Lambdadelta · Post Post #194 (ISO) » Fri Dec 25, 2015 6:48 am

the driver.

The driver token was 10000000% in my pool.

He removed the agent token, and is trying to get you to fall into a false dichotomy between myself and Ika, where one of us is a thief and the other an agent.

I don't know why? I guess BOTH Ika and Gamma are thieves?

BB took 1 to go to 14.

Gamma took one to go to 13.

I took LH

Ika took one to go to 12, and told people he was at 12.

then other guy took 11.

That's how it happened.

lilith2013 · Post Post #195 (ISO) » Fri Dec 25, 2015 7:03 am

okay but you said the box had 3 henchmen, 1 driver, and no agent when it got to you. meaning gamma either A) took the agent and buried the henchman, or B) took a henchman and buried the agent. He couldn't have taken a diamond if there were two role chips missing by the time it got to you.

Lady Lambdadelta · Post Post #196 (ISO) » Fri Dec 25, 2015 7:17 am

Dunno what to tell you. If you don't make Gamma empty his pockets, you lose.

ika · Post Post #197 (ISO) » Fri Dec 25, 2015 7:33 am

if she agent give her the win then. you lose nothign and then you can out me and i still win

ika · Post Post #198 (ISO) » Fri Dec 25, 2015 7:34 am

like i will say this every time for any game i play: if i get the opertunity to be a driver. i will take it.

agent would be first choice overall but if one of those two chips are in play i take it

Lady Lambdadelta · Post Post #199 (ISO) » Fri Dec 25, 2015 8:01 am

In post 197, ika wrote:if she agent give her the win then. you lose nothign and then you can out me and i still win

No. If he makes me empty my pockets, loyalists lose. I'm a loyal henchmen. Blackberry has no rum tokens left.