You're right. I only really looked at the vote. I haven't gone back and reread Jex yet. Ignore what I said since it was rather premature and it's been awhile since I've read her over.DeliciousGoldfish wrote:Why me? I didn't have anything against Jex. She may have had a vote against me but she, for the most part had defended me. And rightly so.
In fact, I'm sad Jex is dead... She is someone I know in real life and I definitely enjoy playing online mafia with her.
It was a good set-up by the Mafia/SK, whoever killed her, as she was the only one who had a vote on me, someone who was under some suspicion at the end of the day. Yes, I could be playing the WIFOM game but.... Quite frankly, I am not using it now and I tend not to use that ever.
Hi. Your failure to vote looks very scummy.Mexal wrote:unvote
I don't really know where I want to vote atm. I'll place a vote in a little while. I will say though that it won't be for inHim as he's been requesting replacement in all his games for quite some time.
I also happened to be the first person to post. So while you might think it's scummy, it's simple deduction and generally the truth. If I was really trying to set someone up, I highly doubt I'd be so damn obvious about it, but that's just WIFOM. I'll just have to trust that eventually you'll see that I'm smarter than you take me for. But by all means, find me suspicious. I enjoy the attention.Zindaras wrote:One of my meta-tells is that the first one who uses the NK target to accuse someone is, himself, scum.
My suspicion falls on the people who lynched Grek yesterday: Glork and Pug. Also:
Hi. Your failure to vote looks very scummy.Mexal wrote:unvote
I don't really know where I want to vote atm. I'll place a vote in a little while. I will say though that it won't be for inHim as he's been requesting replacement in all his games for quite some time.
Your entire argument was WIFOM. It doesn't matter that you were the first one to post at all, good townies avoid this line of thought.Mexal wrote:I also happened to be the first person to post. So while you might think it's scummy, it's simple deduction and generally the truth. If I was really trying to set someone up, I highly doubt I'd be so damn obvious about it, but that's just WIFOM. I'll just have to trust that eventually you'll see that I'm smarter than you take me for. But by all means, find me suspicious. I enjoy the attention.
I did a quick skim back to see whose late actions were suspicious. That would be you and Mirth.As for not voting, yes it makes me look scummy. I didn't realize when the deadline was. For some reason I thought it was 4:00pm and I was in 4 other games, one where I was the SK on another site with 28 hour deadlines. Simple fact is, I missed it but then again, so did 5 other people. Definitely something that can get me lynched but something I'm not surprised you looked at.
Failure to act is as bad, or even worse, than acting wrongly.Mirth wrote:Deadline is in 8 minutes, I believe. Unless I'm mistaken, I think that InHim is sharing a majority with Goldfish, but got it first.
I believe I clearly said that it was WIFOM in my post.Zindaras wrote: Your entire argument was WIFOM. It doesn't matter that you were the first one to post at all, good townies avoid this line of thought.
I did a quick skim back to see whose late actions were suspicious. That would be you and Mirth.
Failure to act is as bad, or even worse, than acting wrongly.
Avoiding the lynch is a scumtell. Scum don't like to responsible for someone's death. They don't want to be the ones casting deciding votes, they don't want to be the ones in the spotlight.It makes no sense for me to avoid a lynch as scum if someone gets lynched regardless if they have majority or not, even more so considering the person lynched was town. Again, WIFOM but your whole argument is meta related and it's impossible to argue against that without venturing into WIFOM territory. So if you want to bring up something more substantial, I'll be more than happy to discuss it with you but in an effort to avoid WIFOM, I'll stay away from the meta comments.
In general, scum will kill the claimed Doc. This is more of a realistic thought (and it should actually have been on my list of thoughts, since it crossed my mind a bit) than killing for suspicions. Why? Because it's not pure WIFOM. WIFOM implies an equal choice: the glasses of wine are exactly the same. Not killing a claimed Doc isn't true WIFOM anymore.Mexal wrote:Why didn't the scum kill Pug? He claimed healer so it doesn't make sense not to kill him unless of course they feel like they can get him lynched pretty easily today. Uh oh, WIFOM!
True to an extent. The point I was getting at is there are a multiple of ways one could look at any given situation. The most obvious choice generally is the correct choice, hence the same with the Pug situation, which is why I always take a gander at who was killed and the possible reasons behind it. I don't always formulate suspicions and opinions based on it but it's where I generally start my investigation. I won't change my playstyle because it's a meta-tell. It is what it is.Zindaras wrote:In general, scum will kill the claimed Doc. This is more of a realistic thought (and it should actually have been on my list of thoughts, since it crossed my mind a bit) than killing for suspicions. Why? Because it's not pure WIFOM. WIFOM implies an equal choice: the glasses of wine are exactly the same. Not killing a claimed Doc isn't true WIFOM anymore.Mexal wrote:Why didn't the scum kill Pug? He claimed healer so it doesn't make sense not to kill him unless of course they feel like they can get him lynched pretty easily today. Uh oh, WIFOM!
Completely understandable, but this generally applies to going to night. I had voted originally and I was more than fine lynching someone. Actually I had voted for a long time. On top of that, I made the case against Pug and when he claimed healer, I unvoted. The fact I didn't revote was mainly because of the reasons I had already stated. But there is also the idea that no one was really pushing another lynch so there wasn't a quick way to go about it. I didn't agree with the inHim lynch and I didn't know what the Goldfish lynch was based on. So in the limited time I was affording this game, I didn't know what to do, which is as I believe it, what I stated.Zindaras wrote: Avoiding the lynch is a scumtell. Scum don't like to responsible for someone's death. They don't want to be the ones casting deciding votes, they don't want to be the ones in the spotlight.
Town always want to cast votes.
I'm confused. You wrote up a PBP of everyone then you deleted it and decided not to post?FaerieLord wrote:Replacing. I had this reaaaalllly long PBP analysis on EVERYONE!
But I won't do it now as I realised that it would be too long and somethings seem really off now that I reread it.
So yeah, I'm replacing ATA, Scum list is def fucked up in my mind atm, though I'm seeing Goldfish as town (gut feelin mostly)
Good stuffZindaras wrote:I'd prefer it if you did post it, Faerie. It can only help us, really. At least post a short summary of your thoughts regarding all the other players.
As far as Mexal goes, I can't really continue arguing with someone who seems to want to agree with me. But I've got my eye on you, Mexy.
I really wanna hear this.faerie wrote:though I'm seeing Goldfish as town (gut feelin mostly)
Now. About the SK. I can clearly see one here. And pugdoc blocked it.Oman's list wrote: -Aww, bugger, I had no real scummy vibes from her
-Hmm, interesting, we seem to not have a role-reveal.
-We only had one kill. Less likely we have an SK with that, or our doc protected right.
-I like kittens. (I left this one)
-Some anti-MoS statement
That's completely fine with me. I'm always thinking, what would scum do, how does this benefit scum, ect. That's how my mind works. I've been told before that I overanalyze things and I know that's true. But it's really hard to turn it off sometimes. So as a result, you get things like my first post. Expect it because it'll come often. You guys have never played with me before so you don't know what I'll do, but soon you willOman wrote: Mexal: I'm Incredibly shocked that your first post was what it was. My list of first posts is severly different to yours. In fact my first thoughts were a modified Zindaras':
Now. About the SK. I can clearly see one here. And pugdoc blocked it.
So my question to the claimed doc is: Who did you protect?