Open 615 - Hope Plus One [Game Over: Town wins]

mykonian · Post Post #750 (ISO) » Mon Dec 14, 2015 4:30 am

In post 747, davesaz wrote:I'd prefer not to help scum any more than they have already been helped, so you're gonna have to read between the lines if you want the truth.

I don't think I'm missing out on your contributions despite your sudden scumread on me.

Guys, lets get this whole kop-molla thing out of the way and actually start scumhunting. That's just one massive distraction.

davesaz · Post Post #751 (ISO) » Mon Dec 14, 2015 4:39 am

Kop's reaction is not to Molla, it is to someone else. And it's a scum reaction. Unless it's complete derp, and I don't know if Kop would derp in that way.

I could get behind Wanderer if necessary.

davesaz · Post Post #752 (ISO) » Mon Dec 14, 2015 7:56 am

This game is going in annoying spurts of activity. Could just be it's the end of 1st semester / beginning of holidays, but it's making it hard to get anything done.

mykonian · Post Post #753 (ISO) » Mon Dec 14, 2015 8:41 am

Well, in the last 24 hours you managed a 4th of the posts of what you did in the 3 weeks before that.

I think the problem is yours.

Frozen Angel · Post Post #754 (ISO) » Mon Dec 14, 2015 8:43 am

In post 733, Wanderer-nl wrote:Those are 2 different days and I already explained that I don't scumread you anymore.

What changed in these 2 different days? I mean no-lynch happend in day 1 ... so what changed exactly?

Frozen Angel · Post Post #755 (ISO) » Mon Dec 14, 2015 8:44 am

In post 749, PhantomCobalt wrote:Going to fully catch up tonight. Does anyone mind reading a time warp tonight?

still catching up?

Wanderer-nl · Post Post #756 (ISO) » Mon Dec 14, 2015 9:05 am

In post 734, Skybird wrote:Wanderer, my point is you are not sticking with any of your reads. We are almost at the end of D2. It looks like you are trying to avoid calling anyone scum.

Who do you think is scum?

Kop is. Read my goddamn iso. I had a hiccup towards dave and before I reread your Day 1 and still thought you were scum (note: I think you're town now, I feel like I have to repeat this) I thought Kop had some good points vs Molla. That changed when my read on you changed. Does that make any sense to you?

Wanderer-nl · Post Post #757 (ISO) » Mon Dec 14, 2015 9:06 am

In post 754, Frozen Angel wrote:
In post 733, Wanderer-nl wrote:Those are 2 different days and I already explained that I don't scumread you anymore.

What changed in these 2 different days? I mean no-lynch happend in day 1 ... so what changed exactly?

My scumread on Skybird changed into a townread.

mykonian · Post Post #758 (ISO) » Mon Dec 14, 2015 9:07 am

that seems questionable. Skybird doesn't look very town to me.

Wanderer-nl · Post Post #759 (ISO) » Mon Dec 14, 2015 9:08 am

Kop's wagon didn't go through Day 1, it has to be noted it was done on a weekend with 2 days left in the DL and the DL got extended during that which not everyone may have noticed.
Kop's wagon isn't going through today and we've been discussing him most imo.
Regardless of his alignment, his lynch will give info.
Now lynch Kop.

Wanderer-nl · Post Post #760 (ISO) » Mon Dec 14, 2015 9:09 am

In post 758, mykonian wrote:that seems questionable. Skybird doesn't look very town to me.

You should read Day 1 because obviously you didn;t since you also didn;t know there was a no-lynch.

Frozen Angel · Post Post #761 (ISO) » Mon Dec 14, 2015 9:23 am

In post 757, Wanderer-nl wrote:
In post 754, Frozen Angel wrote:
In post 733, Wanderer-nl wrote:Those are 2 different days and I already explained that I don't scumread you anymore.

What changed in these 2 different days? I mean no-lynch happend in day 1 ... so what changed exactly?

My scumread on Skybird changed into a townread.

I think I wasn't clear enough...

why?!

mykonian · Post Post #762 (ISO) » Mon Dec 14, 2015 9:35 am

In post 760, Wanderer-nl wrote:
In post 758, mykonian wrote:that seems questionable. Skybird doesn't look very town to me.

You should read Day 1 because obviously you didn;t since you also didn;t know there was a no-lynch.

Ehm. I reread. I'm up to date now

I just wasn't given such information when I replaced in.

But ehm, sure, try to bullshit it through. Don't bother explaining that read then, I think we've seen enough here.

Wanderer-nl · Post Post #763 (ISO) » Mon Dec 14, 2015 9:50 am

Anyone questioning my townread on Skybird hasn't been following today's earlier discussion. I'm not going to expand on this read. I've already said that would be anti-town. That should fucking tell you all enough about what I think about Skybird.

PhantomCobalt · Post Post #764 (ISO) » Mon Dec 14, 2015 9:56 am

Oh, I didn't notice that this was D2, oh well.

Fully caught up now.

BBmolla · Post Post #765 (ISO) » Mon Dec 14, 2015 11:44 am

Honestly either one idfc

Jeanne11 · Post Post #766 (ISO) » Mon Dec 14, 2015 11:53 am

Well, according to my count, this is a lynch. Please correct me if I am wrong about this.

Votecount

With 12 players alive, it takes 7 to lynch

Kop: 7 - Klingoncelt, Wanderer-nl, Frozen Angel, davesaz, BBmolla, pignash (L-1)
BBmolla: 2 - TheManWhoSoldTheWorld, Kop.
Wanderer-nl: 1 - Errantparabola, mykonian, Skybird

Not voting: PhantomCobalt

Day 2 ends in (expired on 2015-12-16 00:00:00)

Skybird · Post Post #767 (ISO) » Mon Dec 14, 2015 1:32 pm

@Jeanne, you don't have me in your votecount.

mykonian · Post Post #768 (ISO) » Mon Dec 14, 2015 1:53 pm

I am on wanderer.

I guess the kop lynch was going to happen. Lets see if the default somehow ended up on scum this time. Not terribly hopeful given lack of counterwagon. Scum were happy with this lynch, dumb continuation of yesterday. The only real counterwagon was molla and that was dumb. Despite wanderers insistence, seems like from today at least, there's no information to be gained, it's all day one. If Kop is scum, today scum know that he would likely have to be given up and would try to find a good position for the bus, if he's town they have found their convenient mislynch and will be just as eager to put their vote in.

Klingoncelt · Post Post #769 (ISO) » Mon Dec 14, 2015 2:17 pm

In post 736, mykonian wrote:someone explain this Kop default wagon to me because I don't see him as remotely scummy.

His complaining about two others softclaiming Cop very much rubs me the wrong way.

davesaz · Post Post #770 (ISO) » Mon Dec 14, 2015 2:22 pm

Here's what I got for an unofficial VC, but it's dependent on the previous one being correct.

Kop : 6 - Klingon, Wanderer, Frozen Angel, davesaz, BBmolla, pignash
BBmolla : 2 - TheMan, Kop
Wanderer : 3 - ErrantParabola, myko, SkyBird

NV: Phantom

Klingoncelt · Post Post #771 (ISO) » Mon Dec 14, 2015 2:25 pm

@Jeanne11 - Kop only has 6 votes, not 7! He is at L-1.

davesaz · Post Post #772 (ISO) » Mon Dec 14, 2015 7:20 pm

What was that about the Kop wagon being too easy with no counter?

I don't want to switch at this point and make a lynch even harder.

Frozen Angel · Post Post #773 (ISO) » Mon Dec 14, 2015 11:54 pm

In post 763, Wanderer-nl wrote:Anyone questioning my townread on Skybird hasn't been following today's earlier discussion. I'm not going to expand on this read. I've already said that would be anti-town. That should fucking tell you all enough about what I think about Skybird.

you got me wrong again.

I never said why are you town reading him right now. I mean what changed about him from day 1 to day 2. becuase you clearly said I was scum reading him in day 1 and because its no another day I'm town reading him ....

Frozen Angel · Post Post #774 (ISO) » Mon Dec 14, 2015 11:54 pm

Jeanne11 wrote:Well, according to my count, this is a lynch. Please correct me if I am wrong about this.

please never misscount a lynch , hon