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Post Post #1450 (ISO) » Fri Dec 11, 2015 8:35 pm

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and the exact same thing Aj is calling me scum for and your agreed on :D (which Its a complete misrepresentation)
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Post Post #1451 (ISO) » Fri Dec 11, 2015 8:38 pm

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In post 1449, Shiro wrote:
In post 1441, Nero Cain wrote:really makes me think that both wagons are likely town and that pig is scum not wanting to be on either wagon.



Didn't you just do the exact thing pig did.

Put out a reason to townread both wagons and avoid joining any ?

ummm no?

like pig never stated that he's town reading either wagon, I guess you could read it that way but its a little of a jump I think. I've stated that pig not wanting to vote makes it look like scum afraid to be on mislynches. Its tote not the same thing and I feel pretty misreped here.
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Post Post #1452 (ISO) » Fri Dec 11, 2015 9:14 pm

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What other interpretation is there of 'I don't like either wagon'?
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Post Post #1453 (ISO) » Fri Dec 11, 2015 9:15 pm

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Misrepped how? I asked a question, not falsy accuse you of saying something you didn't. I legit took it as similar.

Anyway tbh I am cool with a pig lynch but I doubt it can be pushed.
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Post Post #1454 (ISO) » Fri Dec 11, 2015 9:17 pm

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I don't see how it was a misrep. It looked like a normal question.
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Post Post #1455 (ISO) » Fri Dec 11, 2015 9:18 pm

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and can you please answer what I added to shiro's post Nero ?
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Post Post #1456 (ISO) » Fri Dec 11, 2015 9:26 pm

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I don't feel like what me and pig did are the same thing at all and it feels wonky as all hell that Shiro thinks its the same. It felt like a "no u" type thing. Also I'm taking the initiative tho start my own wagon instead of sit on the sidelines.

Did you not read my 1443?
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Post Post #1457 (ISO) » Fri Dec 11, 2015 9:27 pm

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fair enough.

I'm waiting for your answer after you caught up.
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Post Post #1458 (ISO) » Sat Dec 12, 2015 12:07 am

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Things seem to be going well without me, so this game just gets a prodge. sorry.
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Post Post #1459 (ISO) » Sat Dec 12, 2015 12:44 am

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Go with what I decided upon and trust titus or go with my first instinct that AJ is town?

And nero is town.
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Post Post #1460 (ISO) » Sat Dec 12, 2015 12:46 am

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In post 1459, Dwlee99 wrote:Go with what I decided upon and trust titus or go with my first instinct that AJ is town?

And nero is town.


Aj someone is branching , scummy ?

and why nero is town? specially when he isn't caught up yet ?
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Post Post #1461 (ISO) » Sat Dec 12, 2015 12:52 am

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I don't what the actual term is this for such dilemmas , so I used branching ...
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Post Post #1462 (ISO) » Sat Dec 12, 2015 12:53 am

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I dont know what the first part meas but I like nero's posts.
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Post Post #1463 (ISO) » Sat Dec 12, 2015 12:56 am

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the first part is a question I asked AJ : "you find dewele's "I should believe he is town or not" delima scummy or not"

and you like what about Nero's posts ?
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Post Post #1464 (ISO) » Sat Dec 12, 2015 1:06 am

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They are scum hunting and the tone of their posts are good.
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Post Post #1465 (ISO) » Sat Dec 12, 2015 1:09 am

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what is your current read on titus?
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Post Post #1466 (ISO) » Sat Dec 12, 2015 1:20 am

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Town.
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Post Post #1467 (ISO) » Sat Dec 12, 2015 1:26 am

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holy crap i haven't posted for way too long
i think pistachion is scum still. the way she ignored her wagon seems like scum determined to not seem defensive. i think town would be more worried in her scenario.

nero vs titus has the markings of a townvtown.
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Post Post #1468 (ISO) » Sat Dec 12, 2015 4:23 am

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In post 1430, Grib wrote:What changed your read on Heat?


Post , mostly.

In post 1430, Grib wrote:You are being scumread because you aren't doing anything to help town win.


I'm bad at Day 1s with no night phase. It's the biggest adjustment from where I've played before. I don't know everyone's personality very well so my meta reading is bad (and I don't put as much stock into that kind of stuff anyway) and I find it hard to pick out scummy behavior before flips generally.

In post 1430, Grib wrote:Posts like these are pointless. Why be deliberately unhelpful? Someone calls you scum or says they want to lynch you, you ask them why and determine if they're scum going for an easy mislynch or misguided town.


So 3 words is deliberately unhelpful? I feel like that's exaggerating. So you're saying either OMGUS or say that they're wrong but not scum? That doesn't seem super helpful to me.

In post 1430, Grib wrote:Posts like these are great. Try to get some scumreads and be helpful, or you will be lynched probably in the near future.


My scum reads haven't really changed and the wagons aren't going to be derailed at this point. Heat seems opportunistic and Nero has posted more than Zymf but I agree that they accused me of doing something scummy and then did the same thing.
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Post Post #1469 (ISO) » Sat Dec 12, 2015 6:44 am

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In post 1441, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 1433, Titus wrote:Why haven't you bothered to try to sort AJ yourself?

oh look! A thinly veiled attack on me. If you think my slot is scum just come right and say it, don't be cagey.

I am leaning town an AJ. If his 1395 and 1402 are accurate then it makes your attack on him seem crazy and I'd question weather or not you are getting sheeped by scum. Now there is a theory that scum are more likely to interact with replacements to present thier version of the truth but I don't really feel like that a super solid scum tell.

but

In post 1427, pignash wrote:I'm here and reading. Just don't have a lot to say and don't really like either wagon, and there's not much point trying to change directions at this point.


really makes me think that both wagons are likely town and that pig is scum not wanting to be on either wagon.


In a universe where both wagons are town, why do you suppose pignash is scum over town?
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Post Post #1470 (ISO) » Sat Dec 12, 2015 6:46 am

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In post 1395, Aj The Epic wrote:@Nero

Uh

>Titus is wrong

Dwlee has been thinking Pistach is scum all game, kinda backing off now.
Titus wagoned Davesto off him RVS'ing Titus, got mad when I called it 'ego-hunting', went after me when town disbanded on Dave.
Mario was the RVS, he's kinda disappeared.

Read Heat, Elyse carefully. Shinobi, RCB, Titus, Dwlee are all probably town.


I got mad because that's a scum response. People only attack my ego when they cannot respond to the substance of what I say because it is so obviously right.
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Post Post #1471 (ISO) » Sat Dec 12, 2015 6:47 am

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In post 1470, Passionate Storm wrote:
In post 1395, Aj The Epic wrote:@Nero

Uh

>Titus is wrong

Dwlee has been thinking Pistach is scum all game, kinda backing off now.
Titus wagoned Davesto off him RVS'ing Titus, got mad when I called it 'ego-hunting', went after me when town disbanded on Dave.
Mario was the RVS, he's kinda disappeared.

Read Heat, Elyse carefully. Shinobi, RCB, Titus, Dwlee are all probably town.


I got mad because that's a scum response. People only attack my ego when they cannot respond to the substance of what I say because it is so obviously right.


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Post Post #1472 (ISO) » Sat Dec 12, 2015 7:44 am

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In post 1444, Nero Cain wrote:but pig not wanting to join either wagon is just hilariously bad.


I know - I don't like it either.
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Post Post #1473 (ISO) » Sat Dec 12, 2015 7:48 am

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In post 1469, Passionate Storm wrote:
In post 1441, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 1433, Titus wrote:Why haven't you bothered to try to sort AJ yourself?

oh look! A thinly veiled attack on me. If you think my slot is scum just come right and say it, don't be cagey.

I am leaning town an AJ. If his 1395 and 1402 are accurate then it makes your attack on him seem crazy and I'd question weather or not you are getting sheeped by scum. Now there is a theory that scum are more likely to interact with replacements to present thier version of the truth but I don't really feel like that a super solid scum tell.

but

In post 1427, pignash wrote:I'm here and reading. Just don't have a lot to say and don't really like either wagon, and there's not much point trying to change directions at this point.


really makes me think that both wagons are likely town and that pig is scum not wanting to be on either wagon.


In a universe where both wagons are town, why do you suppose pignash is scum over town?


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Post Post #1474 (ISO) » Sat Dec 12, 2015 7:49 am

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Nero made me feel significantly better about the zymf slot, though I'd have trouble articulating exactly what it is that gives me warm fuzzies at this point in time. Regardless, it's enough for me to leave him alone for today.

I'm still inclined to lynch pig here for his total apathy wrt the two main wagons though.
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