503: Dead People Have Powers - Happiness Or Destruction?

[death_omen]

Hi guys,

Random Vote: Y

One letter names are so suspicious.

[death_omen]

I always get "random" voted. I'm statistically challenged...

One letter names are so suspicious.

You're right... They always get the mafia roles...

I hate reverse physcology..

[death_omen]

I think the best plan is to have everybody claim exactly what they are, including neutrals, channelers, power roles and mafia. That would be the best play for the town.

Now a more serious suggestion:
As said already, mafia didn't have the chance to talk. We should use it to our advantage D1.
We can ask everybody to claim power role or not (Channeler=Vanilla). Based on the outcome we decide from which set we want to lynch. If mafia claims vanilla, we lynch one of the power roles, if they claim power roles, we lynch a townie (If they claim mafia, we don't lynch them yet). This way we keep the better odds. No one knows which group will be selected from, so no one can break the system. Mafia don't have the time to talk with each other, so some one will probably mess up.

What do you think?

I completely disagree and that kind of logic is just asking for trouble.. We should just stick to facts and try found out whos scum through guile, not faulty logic.

If everyone claims you will not know who to believe because they cannot prove there role atm since there has been no night choices/actions of any sort yet so we could fall in suspicious of everyone who claims a non power role.

That kind of suggestion strikes me to become quite suspicious of you. Why would you suggest that on d1 (pg3) and in a closed setup game, when we dont really know the variety of roles that could/could not exist.

Vote:Y

[death_omen]

Unvote:Y

I completely forgot about the "dead have powers thing"..

Now that i actually take that into account i think Setael plan is quite right. Y's plan would lead to a lot of lies being told. A mafia could just pose as a innocent non power role townie and get away with it.

Yep my

vote:the cop should claim.

[death_omen]

Wait adding to the post above, how exactly does it work? If your dead you suddenly get given a power or what or is it actually supposed to be assigned with your role?

Just need a clarification on this.

[death_omen]

Does the "Z" is also a spiritual channeler if he is alive all dead people can talk and vote during day. Refer to mafia or everyone?

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Now that i actually take that into account i think Setael plan is quite right. Y's plan would lead to a lot of lies being told. A mafia could just pose as a innocent non power role townie and get away with it.

Could you point out one thing a mafia can't do following Setael's plan, but can do following mine? Please explain how.
My plan is essentially the same, but without having to go through all the players several times. I actually believe that my plan creates a bit more confusion, so the mafia is more likely to slip up.

Starting with your first post and all the others ever since you've been trying to make me look scummy. Why?

This is because if the cop is lynched first he can start utilising his powers and work on finding out the scum, so we actually know who they are so we can use that to actually list them

AT

the right times.

The cop(s) when dead can start utilising their powers and hopefully help is catch these scum.

But I dont mind doing your idea, as long as no one lies.

So i might as well start it off, I am a:

simple townie

[death_omen]

I am going to

Unvote

(did i have a vote? i don't rememeber)

and

Vote No lynch

because then the mafia would have to kill them selves right. but they can't. so if it ended up no lynch it could just become day two with out any deaths, and i guess it would sort of be useless..
gah. i don't know. seems like we are screwed wether a townie dies or mafia. and even more screwed if a chaneller person dies

No lynch is pretty useless its like skipping a day cause no change would be made. I think the vig and the cop should claim still, or go through everyone and get out a role claim from them to at least know where everyone stands.

If we bus of a townie tonight we will just be one member down and it won't really help us because we need to still be able to win and dismiss the mafia members at the right

times

.

[death_omen]

Great a counter claim already, we can put kabenon007 on a scum list if hes lying or we can put Kilroy8675309 or the scum list if kabenon007 is lying,

DAM

what a confusing game..

Ok people who have claimed so far:

Me- Vanilla Townie
Ckillor- Vanilla Townie
kabenon007- cop
Kilroy8675309- Counter Claimed top Against Above
RandomActs- Counter Claims Doctor against Spambot
Spambot- Claims Doctor
Y- Vanilla Townie

We already have 2 claims counter claims made there is a slight choice that there could be 2 cops/doctors to add a bit a prejudice to this game but it seems unlikely.

This claiming thing wasnt such a good idea, BECAUSE how do we sort out the guilty from the innocent?

[death_omen]

woop di do, can you lynch me now please since i am the spiritualist...

Why would a mafia member be the first to claim wouldn't he/she be the last to claim after everyone else has already?

[death_omen]

Seriously, this game is already over, we just have to lynch a townie today.

Wow thats a nice thought.

1. Calling it over when it has barely started is a really bad thought and does not leave you in my good books.
2. Why just a simple townie lynch the cop?

FOS:Spambot

[death_omen]

Looks the worst possible scenario right now would be to lynch the channeler and not be able to communicate with anyone that has died, so I agree with Satael and Night_Light also and we should lynch someone that we trust and are pretty confident in their role, but I dont see why it should be draux.

[death_omen]

Well ok.. Lets do it then.

Vote:Sateal

[death_omen]

Sorry guys its been a pretty hetic week for me at my end. This game seems to have gotten to a stalemate of people deciding what to do next.

Heres my 2 cents.

1. We lynch the actual cop, he investigates someone:
a) He finds scum. We simply note down who that is so we can use that information for later to actually help us win at the right moments.
b) He investigates finds town/neutral/sk we note down the name and basically keep in mind whos got what role.

2. We will keep no lynching until the actual cop investigates and finds a scum/sk then we can deal with that person in due course (when the time is right).

So atm I think we should lynch the

Actual

cop and let him exercise his powers freely and find out whos what. Because a mass role claim failed this is the only fool proof way unless the cop has

sanity issues..

sigh.

[death_omen]

First, we aren't allowed to no lynch.

Second, how did the mass role claim fail?

Third, I still think death omen is scum.

1. Didnt know..

2. It did fail, because if it didnt where are the results and the conclusions I dont see either from you guys.

3. I cannot add anything to that.. Maybe provide some evidence and i might actually defend myself but your fruitles words dont mean much to me right now.

[death_omen]

I think we should go back to who is the real cop conversation. Who do you guys think the real cop is out of kilroy and kabenon? For some reason ive got a gut feeling its kabenon.

Thoughts?

[death_omen]

Question at Mod or Anyone that can answer: Do you just call people that are lynched townies until they pass into the afterlife?

[death_omen]

Because if the above is true then kabenon is scum, because killing only started tonight so in conclsuion kilroy must have been the actual cop..

[death_omen]

Vote:Kilroy

I agree with Sateal its a win, win situation unless hes just a normal townie with no powers at all..

[death_omen]

Ps. If there isnt a cop this game is close to unwinnable for the town. The mod must have to put a cop role in of some sort.

[death_omen]

Who did you investigate? It was pretty strange that cop didnt get nked by mafia or did he get transfered to afterlife before he could choose?

[death_omen]

This game has lost its purpose we seem to going from wrong to wrong, our cop is so madune that he even didnt wish to help us. This is our game to lose , dont really care now because our cop cant even get a proper investigation in and he will be gone by tommorow night into afterlife?

[death_omen]

Ps. whats the point of getting another town alligned play lynched when there is no killing roles that are dead?

[death_omen]

This game has lost its purpose we seem to going from wrong to wrong, our cop is so madune that he even didnt wish to help us. This is our game to lose , dont really care now because our cop cant even get a proper investigation in and he will be gone by tommorow night into afterlife?

thats only if setael decides to send him on which he probably won't. he only sends on scum, like you and kabenon

Then what are you waiting for lynch me?

[death_omen]

I think we should not lynch another town player atm we dont need a doctor dead we can lynch them at the right times. I agree with the statement that we should pin the scum today.

[death_omen]

I am not a neutral and i dont not have any sort of power role I am just a simple townie, no powers, no role just a vote. Meh idc now get the cop to investigate me and prove my innocence because your all so convinced, I cant see me saying anything to save my asse.