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[JDodge]

I WON'T SAY ANYONE IS ANYTHING BECAUSE THEY COULD BE SOMETHING ELSE

[Guardian]

Jdodge, who's scum?

And give reasons. Enough is enough -- you mock Sammich for it, and you've done 0 scum hunting with reasoning this game, period.

Why do I think you are town again...?

[JDodge]

Jdodge, who's scum?

And give reasons. Enough is enough -- you mock Sammich for it, and you've done 0 scum hunting with reasoning this game, period.

Why do I think you are town again...?

I don't want to give reasons, Guardian, but my guess is now d3sisted and Kerplunk. I feel that Sammich might be newb-lyncher and I might be his target.

[Guardian]

unofficial Vote Count
d3sisted - 1 (Guardian)
Kerplunk - 2 (JDodge, Crub)
JDodge - 1 (Sammich)
Sammich - 2 (Keplunk, d3sisted)

6 alive, 4 to lynch.

I wanted to do that so I didn't place an errant vote, am going to re-read and consider things now..

[Guardian]

reread notes:

Kerplunk
-possibly schisma lyncher. possibly team scum. I don't like post 22. his analysis of d3sisted is really sketchy. I think Kerplunk could easily be teamscum with d3sisted or lyncher. pushes easy case on sammich.
*NOT lyncher of Crub.

schis/Sammich
-post 24 seems bad from schis. I don't like how he said my game analysis was obvious, either. not terribly bad analysis for a new player, though, when sammich replaces in.


Jdodge
-lurker. refuses to give reasons. I am now decidedly neutral on him.

Crub
-definitely possible teamscum with Kerplunk. Don't like 23 and similar interactions. Don't get a lyncher read, he just seems to not want to take responsibility for votes. Also seems genuinely afraid of lyncher.

d3sisted
-replace in ==> lynch -1 vote suspicious as hell. wtf, really? then he OMGUSes me, and refuses to answer my questions, and then he answers them only when I threaten to lynch -1 him. pushes easy case on sammich.


Conclusions:

My two top suspects are Kerplunk and d3sisted. Kerplunk has a lot of people he could be teamscum with too.
I don't want to place a lynch -1 vote on him, though in re-read he is actually quite suspicious. I think d3sisted is more vote worthy though. Jdodge could be Kerplunk's lyncher for all we know; he has flat out refused to provide any content on anything.

I want everyone to scumhunt, obv, but specifically:
-I want Kerplunk to explain why he thinks Sammich is scum.
-I want Jdodge to explain anything, or I am going to be VERY wary in trusting his reads.

[JDodge]

I'm not explaining, so I guess you're just going to have to be "VERY wary".

[Guardian]

WHY aren't you explaining? It's not like the mafia can NK you or something, I can't understand why you don't want to give reasons.

[JDodge]

WHY aren't you explaining? It's not like the mafia can NK you or something, I can't understand why you don't want to give reasons.

Telling you why would defeat the purpose of not explaining

[Sammich]

I don't think JDodge has much explaining to do, seeing he's done nothing but basically yell at people.
Meanwhile, on this case:

I don't want to give reasons, Guardian, but my guess is now d3sisted and Kerplunk. I feel that Sammich might be newb-lyncher and I might be his target.

Then it would seem I'm not getting anywere on your case, why are you worried that I could be lyncher?

[JDodge]

Because both you and schism are the only people who have really gone after me the entire game

[Sammich]

Because both you and schism are the only people who have really gone after me the entire game

That's not a valid point.
Schism isn't playing anymore.
Meanwhile, it's not my fault you're making yourself look suspicious to me.

[JDodge]

Because both you and schism are the only people who have really gone after me the entire game

That's not a valid point.
Schism isn't playing anymore.
Meanwhile, it's not my fault you're making yourself look suspicious to me.

Schism = you. Anything he did reflects on you.

[Sammich]

Yet you work around the fact that you're looking all suspicious.
If a mafia isn't that blatant, I don't know what is.
And you know I haven't been pressing my opinion on you, I went on d3sisted earlier and I still think he's not town.

[Guardian]

unvote vote: Jdodge

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[JDodge]

unvote vote: Jdodge

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"I don't see it", says the blind man.

[Guardian]

I'll give reasons just as soon as you give yours.

[JDodge]

I'll give reasons just as soon as you give yours.

Then I suppose we have reached an impasse, Mister Guardian. We may either stay at this standstill, with danger looming over my head, and my potential doom upon your conscience; or you may reconsider your position, and decide if your claims have any actual ground when you review my position on one Mr. Sammich. I ask that you consider the facts of the matter, set your presumptions aside, and then say that your basis for suspecting me is at all warranted.

I FELT LIKE BEING DRAMATIC

[Sammich]

HOW DID I GET INTO YOUR STANDSTILL WITH GUARDIAN?
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[Kerplunk]

-I want Kerplunk to explain why he thinks Sammich is scum.

His posts are strange. But that may indeed be that he is a n00b.

unvote: Sammich

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vote: JDodge

, because this game needs a lynch and because JDodge seems overconfident. Townies should be in general less confident about their accusations.

[Sammich]

His posts are strange. But that may indeed be that he is a n00b.

That's one way to put it, I guess....

[Guardian]

Jdodge, I'm not going to consider removing

my

vote unless you start explaining.

I can think of no reason to not explain your suspicions in a nightless game. If d3sisted or Crub is your lyncher, you brought this on us yourself.

[Sammich]

Speaking of d3sisted, can we get a prod on him? He has not posted for like, three days now.

[JDodge]

-I want Kerplunk to explain why he thinks Sammich is scum.

His posts are strange. But that may indeed be that he is a n00b.

unvote: Sammich

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vote: JDodge

, because this game needs a lynch and because JDodge seems overconfident. Townies should be in general less confident about their accusations.

Lynching me for being overconfident? How boring.

I dislike the way Guardian just essentially said that he wouldn't mind a lyncher win if I am the target. Seriously. Not to mention his entire case on me is that I "haven't given any reasoning", when I have given clear reasoning as to why Sammich is the lyncher if I am the target.

[Guardian]

That isn't what I said at all, Jdodge.

You haven't given *any* reasoning for your suspicions on d3sisted or Kerplunk. Your "clear reasoning" on Sammich being a lyncher had the caveat that he could just be new, as well.

I find the incredibe lack of explanation suspect. You continue to not give any reasoning even when at lynch -1, only defending yourself by trying to deflect attention to Kerplunk and myself.

[JDodge]

That isn't what I said at all, Jdodge.

You haven't given *any* reasoning for your suspicions on d3sisted or Kerplunk. Your "clear reasoning" on Sammich being a lyncher had the caveat that he could just be new, as well.

I find the incredibe lack of explanation suspect. You continue to not give any reasoning even when at lynch -1, only defending yourself by trying to deflect attention to Kerplunk and myself.

Really? What would you argue is more important to find first; the lyncher or the scum? I'd argue lyncher by far; and knowing that wish not to muddy the waters with undertone-ish suspicions.