'The Lost Boys' Mafia (Cry Little Sister, it's OVER!)

[Mr. Flay]

Ninth Vote Count of Day Two:

GodOfWine - 6 (-TinVision-, Ectomancer, Battle Mage, Sudo_Nym, HackerHuck, Mastermind of Sin)

Sudo_Nym - 3 (Crub, The Central Scrutinizer, VitaminR)
Sir.Laggalot - 2 (Yosarian2, GodOfWine)
dybeck - 1 (Mariyta)
Battle Mage - 1 (PookyTheMagicalBear)
HackerHuck - 1 (dybeck)

Not voting - 4 (AniX, Sir.Laggalot,

Amb

cicero, Arafax)

With eighteen present, ten votes will lynch.

[VitaminR]

Unvote, vote: GodofWine

I agree wholeheartedly with HackerHuck. Those quotes deserve explaining. GoW completely contradicts himself, and one of the two posts were complete bullshit (how were the other people more likely scum than The Fonz at that point, who was one of the main villains from the movie?). I will attempt to remember this case

I do agree with this and I don't mind a GodofWine lynch, but he's not my first choice at this point.

Welcome to the game, cicero. I'd like to hear your thoughts.

[Battle Mage]

just posting to say that i still need a reread, but suffice to say, i'm happy to go with a GoW lynch atm.

BM

[GodOfWine]

I changed my mind about the Fonz. I found other people scummier (Amb and TCS) but seeing that their causes were going nowhere I put my vote where it had a little meat on its bones. People get persecuted for this all the time, and I'm sure I will even more so because I also changed my stance about said player entirely. What are people's real problems with me? Is the only thing that people have against me the fact that I changed my mind on the Fonz and hammered, or is there more? Maybe something I could actually defend.

[Arafax]

I totally agree w/HH's post on GoW....I don't think that you simply changed your mind though...

FOS GodOfWine

...I just think that we need a little more discussion on this before lynching.

[The Central Scrutinizer]

I'm here, and I am absolutely not going to be on the GOW wagon because half the players on the wagon are on my scumlist.

[Ectomancer]

GoW, Tinvision had a number of points in his comments in italics in his pbp in post #728. Your response in #732 was less than adequate by choosing to also focus then on The Fonz vote. Of course the Fonz vote is easily defensible and I wouldn't be voting you over it alone. TinVision described a pattern of behavior in your actions om that post and I think you failed to address that at all. I also questioned the motivation for your overly negatively weighted description of HackerHuck's stated reasoning for one of his suspicions in your post #725. It looked to have motivations other than scum hunting.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

@TCS, do you think GoW is town?

[Sudo_Nym]

Hey guys. Just letting you know I'm still here. Just don't have anything new to say right at the mo'.

[The Central Scrutinizer]

@TCS, do you think GoW is town?

I think he's pretty scummy, to be honest. But I'm not comfortable voting him for the reasons already stated: I think Ecto, Sudo, and MoS are all equally scummy.

[The Central Scrutinizer]

Also the case for GodofWine seems to be based primarily on "The Case for GodofWine," if you get my meaning.

[Sudo_Nym]

No, I really don't. What does "The Case for GodofWine" mean?

[HackerHuck]

I think TCS is trying to say that a lot of people are jumping on what I said and saying "I agree that God of Wine is scummy!" While it does seem like that's the case, only MoS actually added a vote and he specifically stated that he would like some response to the quotes I referenced.

I think that since Cicero has just replaced in, it would be helpful if God of Wine could outline his case on why Amb (now cicero) is scum.

MoS = you also think that Amb is scum. Do you think God of Wine is bussing or is it a one or the other situation?

[Mastermind of Sin]

Not sure. Most of my suspicion of Amb was because he was being stubborn and doing a lot of IS-moves. I have since then reevaluated whether or not that was just playstyle, since I've had more time to look at this game. I don't think I was more an indication of scum than it was an indication of Amb playing the role.

[dybeck]

Things with which I agree:

1) Almost everything GodofWine has said all game.

2) This:

I'm here, and I am absolutely not going to be on the GOW wagon because half the players on the wagon are on my scumlist.

[Mastermind of Sin]

hmm. dybeck agrees with everything GoW has said? Maybe we should lynch him for inconsistency and crap logic instead...

[Mariyta]

Yeah, still comfortable with my vote (and I know, I didn't add any content, but dybeck is doing all my work for me. I don't have to elaborate )

[Ectomancer]

hmm. dybeck agrees with everything GoW has said? Maybe we should lynch him for inconsistency and crap logic instead...

Don't acknowledge reading what he said. It just encourages him to say something else ill advised.

[cicero]

I just want to let everyone know that I'm still here. I started two thirty page plus replacement games at once in the middle of a work week. I'm trying to digest everything fairly before I post. Could I get some shortcut info? What have people figured out about the rules of the game so far? I see that the Fonz was David and that he comes up as a townie (citizen) but how on earth is this a Lost Boys theme if that's the case? Will we even know if we catch a scum?? Could he have some magical "godfather" power that makes him appear to be a citizen?

Sorry for the tangent please feel free to direct me to any clarifying posts, tell me some thoughts, or tell me to sod off altogether. I'll try to post something substantive as soon as I can - hopefully before someone decides to lynch anybody but it will still probably be a couple of days.

[Yosarian2]

I just want to let everyone know that I'm still here. I started two thirty page plus replacement games at once in the middle of a work week. I'm trying to digest everything fairly before I post. Could I get some shortcut info? What have people figured out about the rules of the game so far? I see that the Fonz was David and that he comes up as a townie (citizen) but how on earth is this a Lost Boys theme if that's the case? Will we even know if we catch a scum?? Could he have some magical "godfather" power that makes him appear to be a citizen?

It's highly unlikely that he was actually a scum. Death scenes are almost always accurate and honest.

Note that he said while his character was a vampire in the movie, his role was not that of a vampire in this game. Some have speculated that this might mean there's some kind of cult, that he and people with roles like him could be "recruited" and turned into vampire scum. Or it's just as likely that it's simply a matter of the mod designing the game to be mass-claim-proof by giving some townies rolenames like that.

[Sudo_Nym]

Or it's just as likely that it's simply a matter of the mod designing the game to be mass-claim-proof by giving some townies rolenames like that.

I can't believe I never thought of that myself. That's actually a really good point, but it doesn't particularly alter who I see as suspicious. Chalk up a new learnin' experience for the still-relatively-new player.

[The Central Scrutinizer]

Or it's just as likely that it's simply a matter of the mod designing the game to be mass-claim-proof by giving some townies rolenames like that.

I can't believe I never thought of that myself. That's actually a really good point, but it doesn't particularly alter who I see as suspicious. Chalk up a new learnin' experience for the still-relatively-new player.

People playing the newbie card on page 33 deserve to be lynch. Call it a metagame.

[The Central Scrutinizer]

EBWOP: "deserve to be lynched." English no work today.

[VitaminR]

Meh, I don't particularly buy that, TCS.

[Yosarian2]

Yeah...he's not saying "hay, don't lynch me because I'm just a silly newbie", he was just mentioning that a point I brought up hadn't occured to him. I hardly see how that's "playing the newbie card" in any scummy sense of the term.