NY 191: Denmark Mafia - Endgame

[Grib]

Dwlee, could I bother you for your reads?

[Aj The Epic]

Like, in a year, no one has managed to lynch me as scum.

You're aware of this.

You're saying that you're okay letting me somewhat lurk in the background and not making an immediate attempt to push or sort me?

...So we should lynch you to break this?

Grib, your entire argument of "You think I'm scum but we're voting together" can be ended with the word 'busing'.
As for fire, it doesn't matter what he posts. My concern isn't reading people who're relatively easy to figure out. My concern will be RCB, Titus, Esp and Shiro (simply because I've never played against her). I think this is my fourth game with Fire and I'm fairly confident with reading him.
Lastly, 'attacking' vs 'figuring things out' isn't really relevant. They're basically one in the same and only semantic differences at that point.


@Mario
Dwlee will show himself relatively easily if he's scum. Probably within a day or so. There's also the misrep of 'agrees again'. Looking at the case, you specified exactly what he was agreeing with. There's nothing 'sheeping' about it. That's not really a buddy case either unless it were to be incessant. However, you brought it up far too early for it to really show anything to us.

Fire, do you have Titus as town?

[Shiro]

Cookies...I has then. Vote Dave please.

My resistance has been shattered

VOTE:DAV

[Grib]

@AJ

That's an incredibly lazy buzzword. Do you have anything to back it up?

Besides, wine aside, I'm not in the habit of purposefully crippling my team Day 1 for towncred. I don't have a hard time getting townread on MS regardless of my alignment (save for a couple of scumgames I borked), so it wouldn't be giving me any particular advantage.

Fair enough on Firebringer.

[Frozen Angel]

As for fire, it doesn't matter what he posts. My concern isn't reading people who're relatively easy to figure out.

can you say who are these people?

Fire , Dwel , ... ?

[Titus]

@grib, why don't you make me feel warm and fuzzy?

@shiro, your desired flavor? Gingerbread?

[Shiro]

That's an incredibly lazy buzzword.

Day 1 soft bussing is a common practise though isn't it ?


@Titus
Whatever lady Titus wishes to give : O

[Titus]

There you go. Two cookies because I am too lazy to chop.

[Dwlee99]

Elyse and I have same thought process, she is probably town.

And my 100% win rate on this site disagrees, AJ.

[Frozen Angel]

Elyse and I have

same thought process

,

she is probably town

.

And my 100% win rate on this site disagrees, AJ.

ridiculous post

don't ever try that ...

instead of running away give us your own reads ...

[Dwlee99]

What are you even talking about fallen. That is my strongest read atm. Idk what you mean by I am running away. Dont ever try what? Saying the word probably? What are you even saying?

[Frozen Angel]

Dwlee, could I bother you for your reads?

What are you even talking about fallen. That is my strongest read atm. Idk what you mean by I am running away. Dont ever try what? Saying the word probably? What are you even saying?

so instead of saying I'm agreed with someone 100% go ask her , start answering

[MarioManiac4]

The VCA one was to draw reactions but got none until now. I agree with someone so I am scum? I made a post about people needing to explain things and so did elyse, so no crap I agree. And the way you try to make me look scummy for explaining what I meant in a post is awful. Basically all the stuff you are pointing to you misrep the situation or say I am doing things that are scummy when I am not.

How would that draw reactions?
My main point was that all you were doing was saying "ugh, you guys shouldn't be antitown and do x" or "yep, i agree with x." That's scum begaviour.

[Dwlee99]

That is what I was saying.. elyse is a town read of mine. Dont have much on anyone else though. Mario's misreps and terrible case make me lean heavily scum on him. Like that case was the worst case I have ever seen.
P-edit: No, you obviously havent read my post before elyse's. It explicitly states the things I said I agree with elyse on before she even posted it.

[Dwlee99]

And it draws people's reactions cause they will say things like "How can you do a VCA without flips".

[Aj The Epic]

As for fire, it doesn't matter what he posts. My concern isn't reading people who're relatively easy to figure out.

can you say who are these people?

Fire , Dwel , ... ?

Notscience, Mario, Dave and probably Frozen Angel. Admittedly, Dave is an interesting case who I sometimes just don't care to read.

@AJ

That's an incredibly lazy buzzword. Do you have anything to back it up?

Besides, wine aside, I'm not in the habit of purposefully crippling my team Day 1 for towncred. I don't have a hard time getting townread on MS regardless of my alignment (save for a couple of scumgames I borked), so it wouldn't be giving me any particular advantage.

Fair enough on Firebringer.

Lazy? Nah, it's a possible explanation that justifies why we might have the same vote. Having the vote isn't what I care for: Why you have it, conviction behind it and situations when it occurs are more useful. This is why I think it's useless to go "Oh well, Gribs is voting for Mario... one of them is town".


Dwlee, have you ever caught scum as town, and if so how do you go about catching scum? Because I doubt it's via VCA.

[Aj The Epic]

Also fire, you didn't answer if you had Titus as town.

[MarioManiac4]

That is what I was saying.. elyse is a town read of mine. Dont have much on anyone else though. Mario's misreps and terrible case make me lean heavily scum on him. Like that case was the worst case I have ever seen.
P-edit: No, you obviously havent read my post before elyse's. It explicitly states the things I said I agree with elyse on before she even posted it.

Oh please go. You have a sudden activity spike after being voted, funnily enough.
Yes, I know you feel the need to state multiple times that, "something about elyse's avatar makes me want to sheep her" "I agree with all the whys" "Yes Elyse my thoughts exactly" "Elyse and I have the same thought process" "Yes Elyse you're so wonderful and so town please also townread me and hopefully my scumbuddies and help me lynch townies like mario ty omg"

[MarioManiac4]

And it draws people's reactions cause they will say things like "How can you do a VCA without flips".

And what does that tell you?

[Titus]

Grib, Dave's scum. :-p vote him Von.

[Firebringer]

Also fire, you didn't answer if you had Titus as town.

Not positive on that yet.
She townreads me early, but she also did that in the Blitz and it makes me worried.

[Firebringer]

Like, in a year, no one has managed to lynch me as scum.

You're aware of this.

You're saying that you're okay letting me somewhat lurk in the background and not making an immediate attempt to push or sort me?

...So we should lynch you to break this?

Grib, your entire argument of "You think I'm scum but we're voting together" can be ended with the word 'busing'.
As for fire, it doesn't matter what he posts. My concern isn't reading people who're relatively easy to figure out. My concern will be RCB, Titus, Esp and Shiro (simply because I've never played against her). I think this is my fourth game with Fire and I'm fairly confident with reading him.
Lastly, 'attacking' vs 'figuring things out' isn't really relevant. They're basically one in the same and only semantic differences at that point.


@Mario
Dwlee will show himself relatively easily if he's scum. Probably within a day or so. There's also the misrep of 'agrees again'. Looking at the case, you specified exactly what he was agreeing with. There's nothing 'sheeping' about it. That's not really a buddy case either unless it were to be incessant. However, you brought it up far too early for it to really show anything to us.

Fire, do you have Titus as town?

[Dwlee99]

As for fire, it doesn't matter what he posts. My concern isn't reading people who're relatively easy to figure out.

can you say who are these people?

Fire , Dwel , ... ?

Notscience, Mario, Dave and probably Frozen Angel. Admittedly, Dave is an interesting case who I sometimes just don't care to read.

@AJ

That's an incredibly lazy buzzword. Do you have anything to back it up?

Besides, wine aside, I'm not in the habit of purposefully crippling my team Day 1 for towncred. I don't have a hard time getting townread on MS regardless of my alignment (save for a couple of scumgames I borked), so it wouldn't be giving me any particular advantage.

Fair enough on Firebringer.

Lazy? Nah, it's a possible explanation that justifies why we might have the same vote. Having the vote isn't what I care for: Why you have it, conviction behind it and situations when it occurs are more useful. This is why I think it's useless to go "Oh well, Gribs is voting for Mario... one of them is town".


Dwlee, have you ever caught scum as town, and if so how do you go about catching scum? Because I doubt it's via VCA.

I only have one completed town game on site and that was where I replaced in as a power role and the win was handed to me because the scum claimed something not in the matrix and the other one I had a tracker result of them killing the person. My games offsite are way too different to even compare them to this style of game. And I didn't say I'm using VCA to scum hunt, that was for reactions.
And it sees who is paying attention, mario. Tbh I don't know what I expected exactly because it is my first time trying to reaction fish like that but I didn't get anything from it other than you making it seem scummy as crap and that grib asked if it was still going to happen so I think that's a townie reaction from grib (mainly taking note of things like that and remembering them to scumhunt or whatever).

[Titus]

Also fire, you didn't answer if you had Titus as town.

Not positive on that yet.
She townreads me early, but she also did that in the Blitz and it makes me worried.

Sort me. :-p

[Davsto]

Dave is an interesting case

Umm... thanks?

Shiro may or may not be town: while the obvious sheeping seems like something scum would want to avoid, it would have been weirder for her not to have done it, considering that it's exactly what she did under basically the same circumstances in Pun Mafia.

Dwlee seems kinda scummy (the "I basically agree with everything Elyse said" comment bugged me at the time but I didn't say anything), but it just seems too easy. I know it's always a cop-out answer to give, but it is.

RC? Now RC is bugging me. His reason for voting Titus - along the lines of "you haven't said I'm scum and voted me yet you always do" - basically sets it up so that if Titus

does

decide that RC is being scummy as fuck with the awful excuse for a vote (also, RC is being scummy as fuck with the awful excuse for a vote), it'll look bad on Titus when she starts pushing, as RC can just go "oh, so now I find it odd you're not scumreading me, you've started scumreading me? Hmm..." A sort of Morton's Fork. This bugs me.

VOTE: RadiantCowbells