Open 615 - Hope Plus One [Game Over: Town wins]

[Kop]

How can everyone need days of catch up when there's only four pages to read?

I posted that just shortly after 8PM gmt time, which is roughly the time I go to bed as I work during the night. I had been working all day pretty much yesterday and only got onto mafia scum scarecly. I am here now for the next few hours.

Like, cooperate with what? your shitty scum agenda?

News flash: I'm town. With the players in this game, I'm pretty sure I am the only town agenda worth following.

"coop or burn" is a horribly inappropriate response to someone that you think is scum, regardless of the circumstances.

In fact, this just became the best vote.

VOTE: Creative

Bit of an ego boosting post this. How are you the only town agenda worth following?

[Wanderer-nl]

Whoops I just realized I'm due a prod. Sorry about that.
Not really in the mood right now, will be back later tonight.
But I'll say this about Dictator: knowing the heads are RC and Accountant makes me scumread their posts less because I've played with both of them and they're both sort of antagonizing players so they're just being them which is null.

[Errantparabola]

My point is that Dictator has locked onto scum so hard that apparently if you don't agree with him, you're scum, if you defend the person, you're scum, and if you question him about it, you're scum. He's a swirling vortex of association tells with no actual evidence, or basis.

Seems to be a play style thing and nonindicative of alignment.

I actually do admit that was a mistake, I confused him with Erran, do to similar profile pictures.

Did you really just call Errantparabola one of the stronger players in this game?

Their pushing on teeny-tiny inconsistencies got us out of the RVS stage. I think that's a pro-town thing to do

I refuse to believe this is alignment indicative. Scum can easily take us out of RVS.

"coop or burn" is a horribly inappropriate response to someone that you think is scum, regardless of the circumstances.

Sure, it was inappropriate. But it's basically an terrible way of saying "I'm trying to engage with my scumread so that maybe I don't have to scumread you anymore." And I don't see anything scummy about that.

VOTE: Skybird
I think I need to see more from you. You've spent the whole day asking questions that you never follow up on, that don't really have a strong base or reasoning behind them, and honestly, seem to me like you're pulling them out of a hat.

[Sinsun1]

So Fire... How did you like our last game together? Do you feel like you bit into it hard enough Day 1? Should I cast the line again and see if I can get another to bite?

[pignash]

Checking in. Will read up and post tonight.

[Kim]

Their pushing on teeny-tiny inconsistencies got us out of the RVS stage. I think that's a pro-town thing to do

I refuse to believe this is alignment indicative. Scum can easily take us out of RVS.

I don't doubt that they can -- to misquote Tegan and Sara, "There's nothing scum can't do." However, I do maintain that what Dictator did was pro-town, irrespective of their alignment. It was something that they didn't have to do and hurt them (in a small way) if they were scum. At this time of the game, that's a little bit more persuasive of a tell for me than being exasperated when accused of scumminess or other town tells that don't directly help town.

Of course, I could be wrong about Dictator's alignment. I could also be wrong about how often scum pull town out of RVS. (My personal experience is 0/2, but I'm familiar with the concept of small sample sizes.)

While I'm here, I might as well undo my RVS vote:
UNVOTE: TheManWhoSoldTheWorld

[Fostering Rave Bird]

So Fire... How did you like our last game together? Do you feel like you bit into it hard enough Day 1? Should I cast the line again and see if I can get another to bite?

I am sorry, I don't remember playing with you before.
Can you refresh my memory?

-Fire

[Fostering Rave Bird]

Whoops I just realized I'm due a prod. Sorry about that.
Not really in the mood right now, will be back later tonight.
But I'll say this about Dictator: knowing the heads are RC and Accountant makes me scumread their posts less because I've played with both of them and they're both sort of antagonizing players so they're just being them which is null.

Pretty much this.
This is crazy if I am already town reading Wanderer too....

-Fire

[Fostering Rave Bird]

Kop is bugging me lately.
VOTE: Kop

Got a good feeling that Kop is scum!

-Fire

[Skybird]

EP, I'm having a hard time getting into this game. I've been sick since Monday so when I've been home I've been in bed most of the time.

[Errantparabola]

please feel better soon! Illness is terrible.

[Creative]

will be posting in like 12h friends!

[Benevolent Dictator]

How are you the only town agenda worth following?

Good question. It's because we found scum on page 5 while everyone else is flailing in the dark.

So Fire... How did you like our last game together? Do you feel like you bit into it hard enough Day 1? Should I cast the line again and see if I can get another to bite?

If you're going to prodge you might as well just say "prodge".

[pignash]

My son is starting to cry so I can't post a whole reads list but I fill pretty confident about my vote.

VOTE: Kim

[Benevolent Dictator]

This inactivity is nuts.

Fire, why Kop?

Seems to be a play style thing and nonindicative of alignment.

But does his desire to call me out in that way when that should be obvious have any alignment indicativeness?

[Benevolent Dictator]

Bit of an ego boosting post this. How are you the only town agenda worth following?

Ok sweetheart. Which other town has an agenda currently worth following?

I mean, every single other player besides the other hydra has half or less of my posts and even of those posts I daresay mine are hugely more alignment indicative.

If I'm ego boosting that means I'm being honest fmpov so that should mean that I'm town. Is this correct?

Skybird, you pointed Kop out. Why? And you're remembering me from 1661, correct? Where PK insisted on pressing all my buttons to get me to scumread him then bitched that I scumread him?

There's a reason I don't like playing with PK.

[Fostering Rave Bird]

@Dictator Read Kop posts so far and tell me he actually is trying to scumhunt, because it doesn't look like it at all.
I mean, I think Kop has tendency to play like this and i have tendency to scum read a player because they act like this, but man its hard to see him as town in some games.

-Fire


Also, activity in this game could be improved a lot.

[Fostering Rave Bird]

EP, I'm having a hard time getting into this game. I've been sick since Monday so when I've been home I've been in bed most of the time.

Sorry to hear this Skybird.
When you get back can you give some reads for us?

Much appreciated!

-Fire

[Fostering Rave Bird]

These are my strong Town Reads:
Wanderer
Benevolent Dictator

Everyone else leaning town, null.

Kop is my biggest scum feel.

-Fire

[Benevolent Dictator]

I could definitely see Kop scum but I'd really appreciate it if you help me push Creative for now, because I want to sort that pronto.

[Benevolent Dictator]

To clarify, minus #137, this is all RC.

[Benevolent Dictator]

I mean, every single other player besides the other hydra has half or less of my posts and even of those posts I daresay mine are hugely more alignment indicative.

should read

I mean, every single other player besides the other hydra has half or less of my posts and even of those posts I daresay mine address hugely more alignment indicative content.

[Sinsun1]

will be posting in like 12h friends!

You had time to post this. So no excuse. I am happy with the voices in my head. They are right on this one.

@Fire, I guess not since you got lynched D1 after a failed push of you and Lale on me... XD

[Kop]

VOTE: Creative

I should never have removed that vote in the first place.

[Kop]

Bit of an ego boosting post this. How are you the only town agenda worth following?

Ok sweetheart. Which other town has an agenda currently worth following?

I mean, every single other player besides the other hydra has half or less of my posts and even of those posts I daresay mine are hugely more alignment indicative.

If I'm ego boosting that means I'm being honest fmpov so that should mean that I'm town. Is this correct?

Skybird, you pointed Kop out. Why? And you're remembering me from 1661, correct? Where PK insisted on pressing all my buttons to get me to scumread him then bitched that I scumread him?

There's a reason I don't like playing with PK.

I haven't seen any agenda worth following to be honest. I think the Creative link is the best course of action, right as of now.

I read through her reads, nothing in those that really holds any substance. I don't know whether that's down to everybody playing there cards close to there chest, or Creative just gave those reads, to appease the audience.