Mini 1732 - Super Smash Bros. Project M(afia) - D7!

[GuiltyLion]

All Alone, what happened to your Davsto scumread?

His disappearance looks incredibly sketchy to me, like town would make better reads by arguing with people pushing on them instead of watching us turbolynch the other suspect. I'd love for him to post these reads that he made after he removed himself from the lynchpool.

VOTE: Davsto

[LicketyQuickety]

VOTE: Dav

I don't think I need to explain this one.

[vonflare]

vote count

Nana

(3): Davsto, Ika, All Alone

Davsto

(3): Nana, GuiltyLion, LicketyQuickety

With 9 alive it's 5 to lynch.

Day ends in (expired on 2015-11-24 08:00:00)

[All Alone]

All Alone, what happened to your Davsto scumread?

His disappearance looks incredibly sketchy to me, like town would make better reads by arguing with people pushing on them instead of watching us turbolynch the other suspect. I'd love for him to post these reads that he made after he removed himself from the lynchpool.

VOTE: Davsto

It's still there, but Nana is much much scummier:

1. She "knew" Firebringer's alignments in 1301, but Firebringer's "GL Nana, If you are really survivor now, or mafia. IDC." in 1305 suggest he didn't know hers. I really don't think that if Firebringer knew Nana's alignments, he'd pretend not to just to gamethrow on her behalf. That points towards Nana fakeclaiming.

2. I doubt she would've claimed survivor if she actually was turning into one. Ika was still alive, and has already shown no mercy to survivor claims. Claiming survivor would be blatantly anti-wincon for an actual survivor. If she knew she was becoming scum, and could therefore shoot ika, a survivor claim makes a lot more sense.

[vonflare]

Prodding smiffle and gendaberry

[Gendaberry]

Nana, are you just a plain survivor now or do you have any abilities?

Also, I have an exam coming up in a day and I'll be pretty busy studying for it. I won't really have a chance to post until its over.

[smiffle]

^^no need

Basically I have a day commute. I didn't want to be a distraction, so what I did was ~~disappear~~ during the day so I could sit back and scumhunt without having to get super interactive.. I have some notes on my laptop (which I'll shove on when I have the opportunity) which I made during the day.

I was also told that I would be commuted at night too. Considering I was affected by something, I assume that's a lie.

The reason for you backing out on the entire day is weak; self preservation would've been a bit more direct. I really want to see these notes, however, my hopes aren't too high. There wasn't a lot to take note of considering the blinding speed of Fire's lynch. We still fucked up on that one.

Also, Genda, did you try roleblocking Dav again last night?
You say you were targeted? So, on top of your commute, you have the ability to watch yourself?

lol at everyone voting Dav. You guys do realize the dude can just commute if things get too hot to handle? Then he wouldn't be here to answer our questions.

Here we go.

Once again, All Alone's play has been lacklustre. After an atrocious, borderline reasonless push on me for all of the last two days, he has to go and hammer Firebringer with a naked vote. Need to keep an eye on this guy.
Okay, what the fuck is it with Nana/Fire? I feel like it's not Masons, but Fire controls them both. In fact, I've thought this from the start basically, since Nana was "lurking" until Firebringer replaced in, at which point she coincidentally became active. Unsure as to what happens with them after one dies though.
Fire's doing his traditional "yada yada it was all your fault woe is me" thing he does when he's hammered. Dude really needs to learn how to actually explain reads and shit.
Now, here's a thought. Why is it that if Nana dies Fire becomes Mafia, but if Fire dies Nana becomes Survivor? Is it possible that, actually, she's lying to save face and actually she becomes Mafia? If so, are the Mafia aware of this? Because there's a chance they are and thus those on the Fire wagon should be scrutinised.
Wait a second, upon Fire's flip, he has two colours, green and purple. The former has been shown to be town colour, and the latter third-party? In fact, it seems to say he would go from Survivor -> Town. Is it in fact possible that they switched the alignments around; that Fire is Survivor -> Town whereas Nana is Town -> Mafia? Either way, Nana is a prime target.

VOTE: Nana

Dav, so I take it your two scum reads are All Alone and Nana? About the fire controlling Nana thing, I don't think there's a whole lot of correlation between Fire entering the game and Nana's posting more. Fire replaced Klick, who site flaked before the game even began. Klick posting as Nana earlier wouldn't make any sense when he hadn't even confirmed.
You mentioned scrutinising the wagon on fire yesterday, does this mean you're planning to do VCA? If so, I need to grab even more popcorn. Also, just for clarification, at that point yesterday, just before Fire's lynch, were you reading him as scum?

If there is, as you say, the possibility of Nana being mafia, (which All Alone seems to believe too?), then I'm perfectly fine with a Nana lynch today. Mostly because I don't want to deal with the ambivalence about her alignment. Either way, she claimed scum, so it wouldn't be much of a loss. However, can we please

not

have another quick lynch. (I'm looking at you, Alone)
I'm going to put Nana at L-1, but I think we can all be responsible individuals and not end the day super early.

VOTE: Nana

[smiffle]

VOTE: Dav

I don't think I need to explain this one.

No, please do. Atm it looks like you're piggybacking off a multitude of reasons that the thread has provided, and that's no reason to coast a vote, let alone phone it in.

We still have an entire day left...

[ika]

VOTE: nana

hammer time

[GuiltyLion]

lol at everyone voting Dav. You guys do realize the dude can just commute if things get too hot to handle? Then he wouldn't be here to answer our questions.

Davsto, is your commute ability X-shot or something that you can use every day?

[Davsto]

X-shot.

[GuiltyLion]

K I'm gonna treat you as town for now then because if X > 1 then that's a broken role for scum to have.

UNVOTE:

Also with respect to this point:

2. I doubt she would've claimed survivor if she actually was turning into one. Ika was still alive, and has already shown no mercy to survivor claims. Claiming survivor would be blatantly anti-wincon for an actual survivor. If she knew she was becoming scum, and could therefore shoot ika, a survivor claim makes a lot more sense.

That's fair, but my original take was I doubted she would claim survivor as scum for the exact same reasons. It's just such an arbitrary claim that didn't wasn't even necessary at the time, felt to me like frustration rather than a devious scheme. Although on further reflection I guess a real survivor would just play up the town aspect and ignore any questions about alignment-changing, so you're absolutely right that claiming it is anti-survivor win-con.

Someting I remembered:

I give no flip when I die.

@Nana

- can you explain this in more detail? Your Mason, Popo, gave a flip when he died.

[vonflare]

vote count

Nana

(4): Davsto, Ika, All Alone, Smiffle

Davsto

(2): Nana, LicketyQuickety

With 9 alive it's 5 to lynch.

Day ends in (expired on 2015-11-24 08:00:00)

[smiffle]

[smiffle]

Nah, but seriously: Grib, who are you planning to vote?
You sounded at a loss for scum reads in your penultimate post.

[Grib]

Eh, I'll probably vote Nana.

At some point.

[Grib]

I want Nana to at least answer the questions directed at her.

[All Alone]

Spoiler: HUGE wall of content

[Nana]

VOTE: nana

That's what I get for lack of sleep

All you do is seriously vote.
You didn't even have a reason like me to be not as active in this game because if you die someone flips to scum team.
Why do you play?

Why did Firebringer flip Survivor and not Mason, like you claimed?

He was mason. "Alignment Tag team" That is what my role partially is.

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BATMAN!

Just like how fire got lynched. Cute.

It's still there, but Nana is much much scummier:

1. She "knew" Firebringer's alignments in 1301, but Firebringer's "GL Nana, If you are really survivor now, or mafia. IDC." in 1305 suggest he didn't know hers. I really don't think that if Firebringer knew Nana's alignments, he'd pretend not to just to gamethrow on her behalf. That points towards Nana fakeclaiming.

2. I doubt she would've claimed survivor if she actually was turning into one. Ika was still alive, and has already shown no mercy to survivor claims. Claiming survivor would be blatantly anti-wincon for an actual survivor. If she knew she was becoming scum, and could therefore shoot ika, a survivor claim makes a lot more sense.

I knew fire was town, what is your point?
If I came out and confirmed him, he could be killed and then I switch to scum team.
If I came out saying "Hey our alignments are tied, you kill one we could switch mafia" then scum would have incentive to kill one of us so you guys would paranoid lynch the other.

I don't regret my actions. I am upset how town has been handling this game.
I have been trying to let town do their thing and voting the people town has focused on.

Nana, are you just a plain survivor now or do you have any abilities?

Also, I have an exam coming up in a day and I'll be pretty busy studying for it. I won't really have a chance to post until its over.

I had a tracker ability, that was tied to firebringer. If didn't work if one of us was blocked. Which happened the other night when he was alive.
So thanks for that, was trying to track smiffle since fire was adamant on his scum lean on him.

^^no need

Basically I have a day commute. I didn't want to be a distraction, so what I did was ~~disappear~~ during the day so I could sit back and scumhunt without having to get super interactive.. I have some notes on my laptop (which I'll shove on when I have the opportunity) which I made during the day.

I was also told that I would be commuted at night too. Considering I was affected by something, I assume that's a lie.

The reason for you backing out on the entire day is weak; self preservation would've been a bit more direct. I really want to see these notes, however, my hopes aren't too high. There wasn't a lot to take note of considering the blinding speed of Fire's lynch. We still fucked up on that one.

Also, Genda, did you try roleblocking Dav again last night?
You say you were targeted? So, on top of your commute, you have the ability to watch yourself?

lol at everyone voting Dav. You guys do realize the dude can just commute if things get too hot to handle? Then he wouldn't be here to answer our questions.

Dav, so I take it your two scum reads are All Alone and Nana? About the fire controlling Nana thing, I don't think there's a whole lot of correlation between Fire entering the game and Nana's posting more. Fire replaced Klick, who site flaked before the game even began. Klick posting as Nana earlier wouldn't make any sense when he hadn't even confirmed.
You mentioned scrutinising the wagon on fire yesterday, does this mean you're planning to do VCA? If so, I need to grab even more popcorn. Also, just for clarification, at that point yesterday, just before Fire's lynch, were you reading him as scum?

If there is, as you say, the possibility of Nana being mafia, (which All Alone seems to believe too?), then I'm perfectly fine with a Nana lynch today. Mostly because I don't want to deal with the ambivalence about her alignment. Either way, she claimed scum, so it wouldn't be much of a loss. However, can we please

not

have another quick lynch. (I'm looking at you, Alone)
I'm going to put Nana at L-1, but I think we can all be responsible individuals and not end the day super early.

VOTE: Nana

The reason my alignment is in contention, is because of you guys.
Want to point out that again.

@Nana

- can you explain this in more detail? Your Mason, Popo, gave a flip when he died.

A lie to get no one to vote me.

Eh, I'll probably vote Nana.

At some point.

Then whats the point of me answering your questions then?

I want Nana to at least answer the questions directed at her.

Why should I? You already stated intent to vote me.

[Nana]

I don't really care for this game anymore.
I think scum are in All Alone and Davsto.
The rest just don't know what they are doing.

Go ahead and lynch the survivor.

[Nana]

I don't really care for this game anymore.
I think scum are in All Alone and Davsto.
The rest just don't know what they are doing.

Go ahead and lynch the survivor.

[ika]

self vote and save us time

[ika]

aslo my justificaion on you is not onlt the fire flip but you an alt of someone

[Gendaberry]

I didn't roleblock you or Fire Nana and I'm not sure what made you think I did.

[All Alone]

he could be killed and then I switch to scum team.

someone hammer already good night