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[Plotinus]

Official Vote Count 1.19 Emina Jahović - Da l’ ona zna

Prava, ona misli da je prava
i sa tobom bi da spava
a ne zna da si moj

Plava, zar je važno što je plava
kad svaki pramen moje crne kose
postaće joj nespokoj

Ref.
Da l' ona zna ko sam ti ja
šta sam ti značila
da sam ti dane vedrila i oblačila

Da l' ona zna kog ne voli
kom se suprotstavlja
i da sam ja ona koja ostavlja

Drama, život postaće joj drama
ostaće na stubu srama
kad shvati da si moj

Right, she thinks that she is right
And she would sleep with you
But she doesn't know you're mine

Blonde, why is it important that she's blonde
When every lock of my black hair
Will become her unease

Ref.
Does she know who I am to you
what I've meant to you
That I made your days sunny and cloudy

Does she know who isn't loved
who is opposed
and that I'm the one who leaves

Drama, her life will become drama
she'll remain a pillar of shame
and when she understands that you're mine

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lynching

With 9 votes in play, it takes 5 to lynch.

herrcombs

(L-2): Tere, notscience, Postie

notscience

(L-4): Espeonage

Espeonage

(L-4): Bins

RadiantCowbells

(L-4): herrcombs

Not Voting

(4): Apricity, The_Jester, RadiantCowbells

get a room

It takes 3 votes to get a room.

everybody

(R-3): nobody

Not Voting

(9): Bins, notscience, Espeonage, The_Jester, Apricity, RadiantCowbells, Postie, Tere, herrcombs

Post restrictions

Spoiler: 2 current post restriction(s): (may not talk to or about each other in public, may vote and unvote normally

Espeonage and RadiantCowbells (expired on 2015-11-10 15:45:00)
herrcombs and Postie (expired on 2015-11-10 18:05:00)

Spoiler: Infractions

Apricity [1/3]
Bins [1/3]
herrcombs [2/3]
Postie [1/3]
RadiantCowbells [2/3]

Deadline:

(expired on 2015-11-11 19:00:00)

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Let me know if there are any problems with the VC, or if you have music genre requests (rap, pop, ballads, folk, sad, happy, angry, gay, purple, a specific country, etc. I've got about 77 bands lined up to choose from!)

Mod notes: I’m using dice tags to pick which song so don’t read anything into it.

Some of you will lose your vote for the rest of the day phase if you break your post restriction again. The rest of you have a few more mistakes available to you.

[Tere]

Caught up.

Town not lynching ever:

RC
Bins

Town I am pretty sure:

Espe
The_Jester

Person who is weirding me out but is probably town I think argh fnargle:

Postie


------------------------------------------------ Line of acceptable towniness

NS - would be scummier but I liked his wall.

Apricity - this is in part a POE read but I didn't like her most recent readslist. Didn't want to hammer Herrcombs.
Herrcombs - lynch him, he's a scumfuck

[Tere]

Get a Room: RC and The_Jester

[RadiantCowbells]

lol, let's do it. although I doubt I'll make much use of it because I'm already pretty damn sure he's town.

VOTE: Room: The_RC and Jester

[Tere]

Vote: Apricity[/vote]

[Tere]

*facepalm*

Vote: Apricity

[RadiantCowbells]

OK so what I really want is NS but I don't see Bins letting that go through without a huge fight which we can't really afford to have this late in the day so I think we're going to do this instead.

VOTE: Apricity

[Bins]

Get a Room: RC and The_Jester

get a room

It takes 3 votes to get a room.

RadiantCowbells and The_Jester

(R-0): Tere, RadiantCowbells, Bins

<— ROOM

Not Voting

(6): notscience, Espeonage, The_Jester, Apricity, Postie, herrcombs

[herrcombs]

I'm okay with a NS lynch. Apricity less so... She's pretty firmly in my "null" pool, I can't remember much that really pings me as alignment indicative either way. @ RC: when you say she seems "really guarded and afraid" (458), to what are you referring?

I won't be able to post again for the next 9 hours or so (same reason as yesterday, parents visiting from out of town).

UNVOTE: RC
VOTE: NS

[Postie]

@Postie, when did you read on Espe change? Can you walk me through that? Why are you okay with lynching him now?

My read on Espe changed when I read ns' catch-up wall and realised I was getting tunnely and started doubting everything. There were some things I then started seeing wrong with Espe's posts, which are outlined in post 380.

I went into more detail on some of it with RC in our PT, so I'll post about that now here too: take a look at the conversation I had with Espe that I posted in post 407.
What bugs me is that I feel there's a really unnatural emphasis on exactly what Espe

didn't

say, as opposed to giving full details of what actually happened; look at where I ask him if one of him or notscience is lying to me as well - he completely dodges the question. It feels like he was content for me to just carry on believing ns was lying to me without confirming or denying anything so he couldn't be caught out, and the fact he never addressed the issue of ns apparently lying makes me more inclined to believe that too.
Saying in his recent posts that ns' catch-up makes sense with what he remembers also fits with scum trying to make the whole thing look like a big misunderstanding to get out of being lynched for potentially lying or at least strongly misrepping if ns flips town (if it really was just a misunderstanding, there's no freaking way he would have handled it the way he did rather than explaining the situation to me properly).

I know we're close to deadline but I'd like to see an Espe wagon and lynch if possible please. I'll be on later as well though so I'm willing to change my vote to Apricity if this doesn't take off.

VOTE: Espeonage

[Postie]

Also, you described your scum game as awkward in the one you played. Why do you think that is?

Third party, not scum, and I think it was a because it was my first time playing anything other than VT, and the fact I had a really awkward win con, so the role threw me because I had no idea how to play it properly.

Yeah I'm coming to that conclusion too I think.

@Postie I just reread 342 and see you do have town games on site, wanna shoot some at us?

Sure.

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=50&t=63045
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=50&t=63177
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=63464

That's all of them, I think, in chronological order.

[notscience]

@Postie, when did you read on Espe change? Can you walk me through that? Why are you okay with lynching him now?

My read on Espe changed when I read ns' catch-up wall and realised I was getting tunnely and started doubting everything. There were some things I then started seeing wrong with Espe's posts, which are outlined in post 380.

I went into more detail on some of it with RC in our PT, so I'll post about that now here too: take a look at the conversation I had with Espe that I posted in post 407.
What bugs me is that I feel there's a really unnatural emphasis on exactly what Espe

didn't

say, as opposed to giving full details of what actually happened; look at where I ask him if one of him or notscience is lying to me as well - he completely dodges the question. It feels like he was content for me to just carry on believing ns was lying to me without confirming or denying anything so he couldn't be caught out, and the fact he never addressed the issue of ns apparently lying makes me more inclined to believe that too.
Saying in his recent posts that ns' catch-up makes sense with what he remembers also fits with scum trying to make the whole thing look like a big misunderstanding to get out of being lynched for potentially lying or at least strongly misrepping if ns flips town (if it really was just a misunderstanding, there's no freaking way he would have handled it the way he did rather than explaining the situation to me properly).

I know we're close to deadline but I'd like to see an Espe wagon and lynch if possible please. I'll be on later as well though so I'm willing to change my vote to Apricity if this doesn't take off.

VOTE: Espeonage

I was literally just asking RC how he felt about that post. I could definitely see myself voting espe.

[RadiantCowbells]

Since I am able to address Espe now, I note that he did not respond at all in our room and so I have absolutely no read on him.

As a result though I'd rather not lynch him since it basically comes down to policy and I'm feeling Apricity and Herrcombs more.

[Postie]

How is it policy if he's been acting really scummy?

[RadiantCowbells]

I don't see him as acting really scummy, I see him as basically nothing because I don't have a read on him.

[RadiantCowbells]

Well, I remain displeased with the idea of lynching Espeonage and would greatly prefer Apricity, NS, or Herrcombs.

I'll hammer it if I'm absolutely forced to but I don't want lack of activity in the last 24H to lead us to make a lynch that we don't want to make.

[herrcombs]

@Herr you've stated you see Espe as a townlean before. Is it still valid? If not, what reasons do you see based on which Espe would be a better lynch?

Missed this question earlier. I'll copy what I wrote to Postie, Apricity, and NS yesterday, about 34 hours ago:

"I have him as leaning town at the moment, I still hold weight in (Postie's) idea that one between ns/espe is lying, and I think ns is the more likely one to be lying. Therefore, between the two, espe is more likely to be town.

What still gives me doubts is the number of times Espe sort of appears in the main thread, makes little comments without making big pushes or giving stances, and then departs. Could be IRL stuff keeping him busy, or it could be scum tactic. I'd have to see more to decide. And I haven't had a PT with him, so it feels like the potency of my read on him is suffering as a result (because it seems like there's so little being discussed in the main thread while more is happening behind the scenes)."

Certainly, a no-lynch Day 1 is not an option. There are things that bother me about both ns and espe, and while I've held ns in greater suspicion throughout today, I'd probably hammer espe to avoid a no-lynch. Same goes for Apricity.

[herrcombs]

Could I get answers to these questions before the day is over?

@Bins:

Oh and speaking of your 317, what's your read on Tere? And The_Jester?

@RC:

And what was with your ns vote in 435?

when you say (Apricity) seems "really guarded and afraid" (458), to what are you referring?

[notscience]

VOTE: espe

[RadiantCowbells]

I don't like that at all.

[notscience]

That's nice.

We have less than 12 hours.

[RadiantCowbells]

Apricity has 2 votes and is a far better wagon.

[notscience]

I like the wagon on Espe more.

[RadiantCowbells]

Which basically tells me I should be supporting the Apricity wagon.

[notscience]

Oh yes, clearly.