I dont see wy scum cant have a PR. But I said that already.
beeboy - Everyone thought this game was made to troll pie but it was really made to troll pisskop. Almost50 pisskop: Overall, that's a townie slot. Don't ask for specifics because with PK everything can be interpreted either way. It's probably WHEN he says/does things that matter, so it's more of a matter of conception rather than solid reasoning.
Exactly, it's easier to focus on one, so I don't end the day going "arrrrggghhh which one should I lynch".
I'm not too bothered about those who townread him since I didn't properly present the full case until just now (and Royal Saint has gone interestingly silent now that's happened). Royal Saint is making me worry but with only two scum I think they'd avoid defending each other and chainsawing like that. Probably.
In post 506, Davsto wrote:Exactly, it's easier to focus on one, so I don't end the day going "arrrrggghhh which one should I lynch".
I'm not too bothered about those who townread him since I didn't properly present the full case until just now (and Royal Saint has gone interestingly silent now that's happened). Royal Saint is making me worry but with only two scum I think they'd avoid defending each other and chainsawing like that. Probably.
Does Royal Saints double vote make him more townie or scummy in your opinion? Or perhaps neither?
Null. It could be town because Double Voter is usually town, but in a game with 11:2 T:S it makes sense for scum to have a lylo accelerator. I'm gonna avoid reading into it.
Stahp. If you are just going to ask me shit Ive already said then Im not doing this.
beeboy - Everyone thought this game was made to troll pie but it was really made to troll pisskop. Almost50 pisskop: Overall, that's a townie slot. Don't ask for specifics because with PK everything can be interpreted either way. It's probably WHEN he says/does things that matter, so it's more of a matter of conception rather than solid reasoning.
beeboy - Everyone thought this game was made to troll pie but it was really made to troll pisskop. Almost50 pisskop: Overall, that's a townie slot. Don't ask for specifics because with PK everything can be interpreted either way. It's probably WHEN he says/does things that matter, so it's more of a matter of conception rather than solid reasoning.
In post 512, pisskop wrote:he claimed to? Did he get results that he shared?
He claimed no result according to Expedience (post 425 translated). I haven't checked whether or not Expedience have translated it correctly. But I haven't seen FB object to it in his latest post which I translated.
In post 436, Expedience wrote:Okay. Also there were some errors that Fire made that I didn't fix.
MY ROLE PM IS UNSPECIFIC ON THE PART ABOUT UNLYNCHABLE THOUGH YOU CAN BE SAFE TO ASSUME I CAN T BE KILLED BY YOU MORTAL
ALSO I AM TRACKER AND GOT NO RESULTS LAST NIGHT FOR SEARCHING KLINGONCELT
In post 426, Firebringer wrote:20-8-9-19 9-19 8-5-12-12 6-15-18 1-14-25-15-14-5 20-18-25-9-14-7 20-15 18-5-1-4 13-25 13-5-19-19-1-7-5-19
THIS IS HELL FOR ANYONE TRYING TO READ MY MESSAGES
In post 506, Davsto wrote:Exactly, it's easier to focus on one, so I don't end the day going "arrrrggghhh which one should I lynch".
I'm not too bothered about those who townread him since I didn't properly present the full case until just now (and Royal Saint has gone interestingly silent now that's happened). Royal Saint is making me worry but with only two scum I think they'd avoid defending each other and chainsawing like that. Probably.
It is called a job. I go silent every time I say "hey I am driving into work". That is a thing. Reading now:
In post 499, Davsto wrote:Okay, Royal, let me lay this out for you. He's saying I'm not as "involved" as I was in the game I played with him. This game contained such things as:
The list could go on, but these are some of the things I did while in the game while Expedience was alive. He's just stating a meta of "oh he was more involved" without referencing the game in question, in the hope that people will just go along with it, whereas those things above aren't particularly involved, in my opinion.
(also, there's the fact that I currently have tonsillitis which naturally makes me play worse but it's not his fault he doesn't know)
It's not just a bad case, it's a case that is a flat out lie and Expedience should know this. That's why I'm voting Expedience.
Now, are you going to continue to accuse me of OMGUS just because I'm voting someone who just happens to be voting me, or are you going to stop tunneling and consider my case on Expedience?
Thank you for your case that I have been asking for for a fucking while.
UNVOTE: UNVOTE:
Being pissed at you for calling RL scummy doesn't make your argument any more or less valid so I need to read it later but for now removing my votes while I do.
In post 478, Davsto wrote:People who are wondering why gameplay would let a wagon form on him when he's lynchproof seem to have forgotten that a certain mechanic exists in this game.
Expedience's meta reads are crap, considering this game I was "so engaged" in contained me making at least two "I don't have the effort, I'll get around to this later" posts. Also, I didn't have tonsillitis whilst playing that game.
Unsure if Expedience is just not the best at using meta or is purposefully meta-reading me poorly to try and get a cheap push on me.
Davsto is not really doing anything and he only responds more when I poke him. I played a game with him before and he was more helpful as town, he generated discussion.
In post 113, Ranger wrote:That being said, VOTE: A Royal Saint.
While my scumread's weaker, this wagon's larger.
Seriously though, while I went all "whelp" on this earlier, this is weak as fuck. Changing your vote to a weaker scumread because they had one more vote on them? Rather than, I don't know, actually pushing the one you're more certain of?
This is a bad and reachy reason for FoS'ing someone, considering how his rhetorical question is already answered by Ranger saying that she is voting ARS because the wagon is larger.
My vote on that dude I showed suspicion of. Might as well park it on someone I have actual feelings towards overnight.
An afterthought so he doesn't get screwed over for FoS'ing someone but not voting for them. And considering how he just accused someone for changing their vote onto a weaker scumread it is also hypocritical.
In post 284, Davsto wrote:With a look at his ISO, I can get on board with a gameplay vote.
VOTE: gameplay506
Not showing any sort of evaluation, he will just jump onto the largest wagon after checking to make sure they are good lynchbait.
In post 293, Davsto wrote:Well this new deathless setup of Mafia certainly is interesting.
Do you think that the scum attempted to make a kill last night or decided not to?
Almost certainly attempted a kill. No reason not to when there's 13 players alive. My best bet is a Doc protected their target, and given that gameplay appeared to be unlynchable, my guess is that they wanted to get rid of him via nightkill. Keep in mind that in some cases, the secondary wincons might give away hints to the role, so there's a good chance they know more about gameplay's role than us; they probably have some idea as to whether he's one-shot or just flat out unlynchable.
The assumption that gameplay is town before he is even here to explain the situation really bothers me, and is possibly a scumslip. More so now considering how Fire's claim seems valid.
And now look at this:
In post 284, Davsto wrote:With a look at his ISO, I can get on board with a gameplay vote.
VOTE: gameplay506
The only real thing that happened between this statement and him assuming gameplay was town was gameplay's escape. And this was very far from confirming him as town, from a town perspective at least. Most people interpreted it as making him look more like scum.
There is a single sentence of meta in that entire quote:
In post 455, Expedience wrote:I played a game with him before and he was more helpful as town, he generated discussion.
I agree with you in regards to meta, it's not accurate because people's playstyles change due to things not related to alignment (for example tonsillitis, as you mentioned). That's precisely why that was a very small part of my case against you.
In post 474, The_Jester wrote:Mkay.
And yeah, it's meta-based. He's not as active as I'd like him to be but I don't see him a scum.
Davsto, why doesn't this meta townread bother you in that case? Especially considering how you claim that real life circumstances are making you act in a way that makes meta reads less valid.
"You are the Joker of mafia players" - Oversoul
"last time I was scum with Firebringer
his first post in the scum PT was "yes I rolled scum!"
I decided to post "haha just don't post that in the main thread", but to get up to date on the main thread first.
His first post in the main thread was "yes I rolled scum!" -popsofctown
In post 476, Klingoncelt wrote:Expedience - The pushes seem contrived. Says my post restriction is fake. Votes for me, tries to get others to. Scum.
What pushes (other than on you)? I will say that I no longer consider your post restriction fake and I consider you town, I accept that my pushing you for supposedly having a fake post restriction was poor.
Hiplop - Declares Expedience to be Town. Says my post restriction is fake. Rest of his posts are short & crappy.
Way Scum.
ARS and TSB also think I'm town, why does hiplop townreading me in particular bother you?
