Blitz 2: The Stars My Destination Mafia- GAME OVER!

talah · Post Post #1000 (ISO) » Mon Nov 09, 2015 9:17 pm

In post 999, ika wrote:my change of vote should say something mala. If it's not over its right back to you

Who did you protect last night?

talah · Post Post #1001 (ISO) » Mon Nov 09, 2015 9:28 pm

In post 893, talah wrote:
Actually ika, I'm presuming you protected Syryana?

In post 1000, talah wrote:
Who did you protect last night?

BBmolla · Post Post #1002 (ISO) » Mon Nov 09, 2015 9:37 pm

it quite honestly doesnt matter

BBmolla · Post Post #1003 (ISO) » Mon Nov 09, 2015 9:37 pm

In post 998, talah wrote:
In post 997, BBmolla wrote:
In post 995, chamber wrote:That seems like a bit too much of a coincidence, which does imply one of the scum are in one of the 2.

ya it's PV

What are your reads on me and Spiffeh?

I'm worried that we'll end up lynching a townie out of our neghbourhood and then narrowing it down to 2, then lynching the last...

If we all flip town we're pretty fucked, obv.

you're scummier than Spiffeh, especially your worry about claims.

talah · Post Post #1004 (ISO) » Mon Nov 09, 2015 9:42 pm

Molla I honestly don't give a shit at this stage if I'm lynched if it actually *proves* anything for me to flip town.

And yeah it does matter who he protected because he should have been protecting Syr and if he wasn't that's necessary information.
If he was and the strongman from huntress resolved to kill Syr and then the "Vig" successfully killed huntress anyway, that's important information don't you think?

Either way I was wnating Nosferatu to come back at me with a theory or facts since he already said he wanted to engage.

ika · Post Post #1005 (ISO) » Mon Nov 09, 2015 9:43 pm

bb we lynch mala next if pv isn't it

Also I'm mobile posting arm so I'm barely reading

chamber · Post Post #1006 (ISO) » Mon Nov 09, 2015 9:43 pm

I agree that the claim stuff probably doesn't matter much, I'm not sure talah is scummy for falling for it though. It's a reasonable thing to get tripped up by.

ika · Post Post #1007 (ISO) » Mon Nov 09, 2015 9:44 pm

How does who I protected change anything at this point I mean if they were strongman killed how does it change anything? Who's not to say I could of been hair role locked intead?

chamber · Post Post #1008 (ISO) » Mon Nov 09, 2015 9:45 pm

In post 1004, talah wrote:If he was and the strongman from huntress resolved to kill Syr and then the "Vig" successfully killed huntress anyway, that's important information don't you think?

Why does that matter at all?

talah · Post Post #1009 (ISO) » Mon Nov 09, 2015 9:48 pm

In post 1008, chamber wrote:
In post 1004, talah wrote:If he was and the strongman from huntress resolved to kill Syr and then the "Vig" successfully killed huntress anyway, that's important information don't you think?

Why does that matter at all?

Is the normal (or "standard") event resolution
Scum Strongman Kills Town Roleblocker (Doc Protect) (success)
Town Vig Kills Scum Strongman (success)

Why is the Doc alive?

Firebringer · Post Post #1010 (ISO) » Mon Nov 09, 2015 9:49 pm

In post 1006, chamber wrote:I agree that the claim stuff probably doesn't matter much, I'm not sure talah is scummy for falling for it though. It's a reasonable thing to get tripped up by.

Seems kind of scummy...
I don't know.
Still unsure of Talah. You never know where a fish has their allegiance too.

LOOK AT THE TULLYS (GOT, wait are they the fish bannerman?)

ika · Post Post #1011 (ISO) » Mon Nov 09, 2015 9:50 pm

Strongman bypasses roleblock and doc heals fyi

talah · Post Post #1012 (ISO) » Mon Nov 09, 2015 9:51 pm

In post 1011, ika wrote:Strongman bypasses roleblock and doc heals fyi

Who kills first out of Vig/SK and Scum?

chamber · Post Post #1013 (ISO) » Mon Nov 09, 2015 9:53 pm

In post 1009, talah wrote:
In post 1008, chamber wrote:
In post 1004, talah wrote:If he was and the strongman from huntress resolved to kill Syr and then the "Vig" successfully killed huntress anyway, that's important information don't you think?

Why does that matter at all?

Is the normal (or "standard") event resolution
Scum Strongman Kills Town Roleblocker (Doc Protect) (success)
Town Vig Kills Scum Strongman (success)

Why is the Doc alive?

I would say yes and nothing looks remotely questionable? Kills resolve at the same time. It's not like they can stop each other? And the rare time I have seen them resolved that way, it was mafia's the went first not vigs.

The scum didn't know hunter was going to get NKed. Their intent could have been to try and frame ika. Also they had a free shot at not killing the doctor because of the strongman 1-shot.

talah · Post Post #1014 (ISO) » Mon Nov 09, 2015 9:54 pm

In post 1010, Firebringer wrote:
In post 1006, chamber wrote:I agree that the claim stuff probably doesn't matter much, I'm not sure talah is scummy for falling for it though. It's a reasonable thing to get tripped up by.

Seems kind of scummy...
I don't know.
Still unsure of Talah. You never know where a fish has their allegiance too.

LOOK AT THE TULLYS (GOT, wait are they the fish bannerman?)

Egh. Hi (officially) town Firebringer.
Shed crystal tears for me and I'll be happy to eat a lynch or vig. Problem I have is it still leaves two unresolved in my neighbourhood and I'm not sure which, if either, is scum.

We have less than a day on the timer?

ika · Post Post #1015 (ISO) » Mon Nov 09, 2015 9:55 pm

Ok i have to do it slow and easy

A is strongmna
B is doc
C is rber
D is vig

presume no outside influence happens

action 1) A+B targets C results is C dying
Action 2) D targets B results in B dying

both kills act out simultaneously
Doc protection gets ignored due to stongman activation

thats how NAR should resolve it

pedit: chamber kinda beat me but this should make sense now?

chamber · Post Post #1016 (ISO) » Mon Nov 09, 2015 9:57 pm

In post 1014, talah wrote:
In post 1010, Firebringer wrote:
In post 1006, chamber wrote:I agree that the claim stuff probably doesn't matter much, I'm not sure talah is scummy for falling for it though. It's a reasonable thing to get tripped up by.

Seems kind of scummy...
I don't know.
Still unsure of Talah. You never know where a fish has their allegiance too.

LOOK AT THE TULLYS (GOT, wait are they the fish bannerman?)

Egh. Hi (officially) town Firebringer.
Shed crystal tears for me and I'll be happy to eat a lynch or vig. Problem I have is it still leaves two unresolved in my neighbourhood and I'm not sure which, if either, is scum.

We have less than a day on the timer?

It's a 14p game. I would bet that the vig is 1-shot if it's a vig.

ika · Post Post #1017 (ISO) » Mon Nov 09, 2015 9:58 pm

[quote=wiki]Strongman is a role modifier that signifies that any kills performed by this player cannot be blocked by any means - neither by Bulletproof, nor by Doctor or other protective roles, nor by Roleblocks.[/quote]

if you still dont get it i grabed the wiki on strongman thats should explain why the dicussion is moot regalrdess of my action

pedit: i wish you didnt out that chamber i had that in the back of my mind but i wasnted to make them thinkit was faull vig

Firebringer · Post Post #1018 (ISO) » Mon Nov 09, 2015 9:58 pm

In post 1014, talah wrote:
In post 1010, Firebringer wrote:
In post 1006, chamber wrote:I agree that the claim stuff probably doesn't matter much, I'm not sure talah is scummy for falling for it though. It's a reasonable thing to get tripped up by.

Seems kind of scummy...
I don't know.
Still unsure of Talah. You never know where a fish has their allegiance too.

LOOK AT THE TULLYS (GOT, wait are they the fish bannerman?)

Egh. Hi (officially) town Firebringer.
Shed crystal tears for me and I'll be happy to eat a lynch or vig. Problem I have is it still leaves two unresolved in my neighbourhood and I'm not sure which, if either, is scum.

We have less than a day on the timer?

Talah why don't you relax lol.
Its a game, and I am not pushing you.
Just trying to better understand you is all.
Right now you feel null to me, and setup specing I consider not alignment indicative.

talah · Post Post #1019 (ISO) » Mon Nov 09, 2015 9:59 pm

In post 1013, chamber wrote:
In post 1009, talah wrote:
In post 1008, chamber wrote:
In post 1004, talah wrote:If he was and the strongman from huntress resolved to kill Syr and then the "Vig" successfully killed huntress anyway, that's important information don't you think?

Why does that matter at all?

Is the normal (or "standard") event resolution
Scum Strongman Kills Town Roleblocker (Doc Protect) (success)
Town Vig Kills Scum Strongman (success)

Why is the Doc alive?

I would say yes and nothing looks remotely questionable? Kills resolve at the same time. It's not like they can stop each other? And the rare time I have seen them resolved that way, it was mafia's the went first not vigs.

The scum didn't know hunter was going to get NKed. Their intent could have been to try and frame ika. Also they had a free shot at not killing the doctor because of the strongman 1-shot.

It wasn't expicitly stated that the JOAT is 1-shot unless that's also a thing I'm not aware of.

I did not know that kills resolved at the same time but thanks.
I guess if it's scum resolves first in any tiebreaker then it makes sense.

Nice if Nosferatu, y'know, posted something to this effect since he seemed pretty keen to explain resolutions and interact with me and Pere.

chamber · Post Post #1020 (ISO) » Mon Nov 09, 2015 10:00 pm

In post 172, Spiffeh wrote:That's not necessarily because I always care I am right regardless of alignment.

Also I have only read this one post since I have last posted.

This post is garbage.

talah · Post Post #1021 (ISO) » Mon Nov 09, 2015 10:02 pm

In post 1017, ika wrote:
wiki wrote:Strongman is a role modifier that signifies that any kills performed by this player cannot be blocked by any means - neither by Bulletproof, nor by Doctor or other protective roles, nor by Roleblocks.

I understand what strongman is, but I thought that if the scum was being killed it would prevent the scumkill as well if Syr was protected considering huntress flipped as strongman (and I don't presume there are two).

Which is why I wanted clarification.

chamber · Post Post #1022 (ISO) » Mon Nov 09, 2015 10:02 pm

In post 191, Spiffeh wrote:I want to get pignash mostly because that's what I would probably say if I was scum and saw a wagon building on town without my involvement.

VOTE: pignash

PEdit: Nah Ranger's first post is town I think.

This one too.

ika · Post Post #1023 (ISO) » Mon Nov 09, 2015 10:04 pm

99.9% of the time a joat will be 1-shot of the role. I dont think i have seen joats not have more then one-shot unless they have a "refresh" ability that lets them resuse it

talah · Post Post #1024 (ISO) » Mon Nov 09, 2015 10:04 pm

In post 1021, talah wrote:it would prevent the scumkill as well if Syr was protected

Actually this is unrelated. I just figured a kill on scum would prevent the dead scum from killing.