Kingmaker II-Game Over

[Cavane]

Scum just got executed and you want to end the day without looking back at him?

[RafK]

Fritzler is certainly not off my radar, at least until I've had an opportunity to review KScope's posts more.

I agree with Yos that mnowax is unlikely to be scum, though. I don't think he'd plan to throw himself under a bus to make another scum look good, and if he did (got nutkicked into it, maybe?) then I'd expect it to be a bit more obvious than that. Maybe I'm not giving him enough credit, but I doubt it.

Consider the informal LoE to be ThAdmiral, TS and Fritz, but with room to grow. My worry with ThAdmiral is mostly that I had him down as scum WITH YOS, and given that I'm having to re-evaluate stuff here I'm a bit leery about insta-executing someone I found scummy on the basis that he was a Yos supporter.

[Mastermind of Sin]

RafK, what do you think about Cavane?

[Mastermind of Sin]

Yos2's post make me very suspicious of Kscope. I hadn't really thought of it that way before, but there is a difference between RafK and Kscope's attacks on Yos2. I'd like to see what RafK has to say about this.

It's a shame that RafK ignored this post, but it's a little too late now that we know Ksc0pe's alignment.

[Fritzler]

Scum just got executed and you want to end the day without looking back at him?

yes

Consider the informal LoE to be ThAdmiral, TS and Fritz, but with room to grow. My worry with ThAdmiral is mostly that I had him down as scum WITH YOS, and given that I'm having to re-evaluate stuff here I'm a bit leery about insta-executing someone I found scummy on the basis that he was a Yos supporter.

You seemed to spell cavane with an f-r-i-t-z

[RafK]

RafK, what do you think about Cavane?

Very under the radar.

[petroleumjelly]

Okay – I was highlighting my notes with the latest alignments earlier today, and I was surprised at how often spectrumvoid-scum and bird1111/K-Scope-scum seemed to be voting the same people.

Day One

spectrumvoid votes

:

Glork

, cb0x [Lowell],

Phoebus [VitaminR], Pablito [Thesp]

bird1111 votes

:

Glork, Pablito [Thesp]

->

Shared Votes:

Glork, Pablito

Day Two

spectrumvoid votes

: SC [CDB, Olio, ThAdmiral],

ubertimmy [Nightson, Shanba, Skruffs], Glork, Phoebus [VitaminR]

bird1111 votes

: Mert [RafK],

Phoebus [VitaminR], Twomz [Samus, CES]

,

Pooky

, Yos2

K-Scope votes

:

Pablito [Thesp]

, cb0x,

Pooky

->

Shared Votes:

Phoebus

Day Three

spectrumvoid votes

:

Glork

, DR [Smashy, BM, mnowax2]

K-Scope votes

:

Pablito [Thesp]

, DR [Smashy, BM, mnowax2]

->

Shared Votes: DR

Day Four

spectrumvoid votes

: Smashy [DR, BM, mnowax2], MoS

K-Scope votes

: Smashy [DR, BM, mnowax2], Fritz

->

Shared Votes: DR

Day Five

spectrumvoid votes

: MoS, Fritz

K-Scope votes

: mnowax2 [DR, BM, Smashy], Fritz,

Zindaras

->

Shared Votes: Fritz

Day Six

K-Scope votes

: mnowax2 [DR, BM, Smashy], Fritz

Day Seven

K-Scope votes

: mnowax2 [DR, BM, Smashy], Fritz, Yos2,

PJ

~~~

I am actually becoming disconcerted at how both spectrumvoid and K-Scope went so heavily after DR/BM/Smashy/mnowax2 and Fritzler. As you can see from their votes, spectrumvoid never once voted for either K-Scope/bird1111-scum or Pooky-scum – which indicates that she (at the very least) either did not bus very vocally this game, such that if spectrumvoid did any distancing at all (which I think is a fairly safe assumption), the most likely candidate appears to be ThAdmiral - she voted his predecessor (StallingChamp) on Day Two when he was under little to no pressure, and then never brought him up again afterwards in terms of a vote. A case could be made for her busing cb0x/Lowell, but Lowell happens to occupy my "most likely to be town" slot at the moment, so I personally don't think that is the case. To be complete, MoS on the surface appears to be a candidate for distancing purposes (given that he never really shows up as a vote until SV comes under more and more pressure), but I know I've reread MoS fairly recently and he didn't strike me as being very scummy.

K-Scope also did not really ever mention spectrumvoid unless a question was posed directly at him about her. For now, I am going to

Unvote: mnowax2 and Fritzler

so I can reread their posts in relation to K-Scope's, because I am really starting to wonder if I am just completely ass-backwards this game. I will probably reread most of the players left alive at this point; I feel that I have to do some rethinking now that K-Scope has turned out to be scum.

A thought just occurred to me, as well, while skimming K-Scope's posts (I am trying to discern patterns in his play to see if I can find a scum-buddy; I should have some conclusions by the weekend, if things go as planned).

I am starting to wonder if K-Scope was trying to play in such a way as to suggest he was a "Hero" without actually claiming it. He was constantly badgering Kings, and instigating them into executing faster, and voting them if they took to long for his tastes. His post of "Yos2 should be totally hammering me right now" near the end of yesterday does not seem to have any purpose

except

to make Yos2 wonder if K-Scope was a Hero, in fact. The nature of the exchange between Yos2 and K-Scope

really

does not look like scum busing each other.

Given this, I will want to reread others' posts to see if anybody

else

was implicitly trying to

suggest

K-Scope was a Hero without actually saying so, because this is striking me as a strategy an entire scum-team would likely be "revolving" around, and could easily accidentally/subliminally reference during the day because it is on their collective mind(s).

[Yosarian2]

I am starting to wonder if K-Scope was trying to play in such a way as to suggest he was a "Hero" without actually claiming it. He was constantly badgering Kings, and instigating them into executing faster, and voting them if they took to long for his tastes. His post of "Yos2 should be totally hammering me right now" near the end of yesterday does not seem to have any purpose

except

to make Yos2 wonder if K-Scope was a Hero, in fact. The nature of the exchange between Yos2 and K-Scope

really

does not look like scum busing each other.

Interesting thought.

At the time, I had been thinking that, after Mnowax pulled the "Yos should lynch me" thing and ended up (in my mind) looking a little more pro-town because of it, Kscope decided to try and copy the gambit to see if it would work for him to (which would, again, at least in a weak WIFOMy kind of way, point to Kscope and Mnowax probably not being scum together).

[Toaster Strudel]

ADVERTISEMENT:

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[Lowell]

vote for king: TS

[Fritzler]

vote for king: TS

i support this

[RafK]

What do you think of DR/smashy/BM/second coming of mnowax, TS?

[ThAdmiral]

yeah, i have question. Are you scum?

No.

[Lowell]

vote Mnowax and ThAdmiral

for Best Scum Team Ever

[mnowax]

w00T!

[Toaster Strudel]

What do you think of DR/smashy/BM/second coming of mnowax, TS?

It's your job to execute him. I don't care if you use the electrical chair, a nice tight noose, or a big old needle. DeadRikamaru's "reign" does it for me, I don't know why this guy's still alive.

[Yosarian2]

yeah, i have question. Are you scum?

No.

Ok then. Why have you been semi-lurking and refuisng to say anything relevent for such a long time now? Who do you think is scum? If you were king, who would you kill right now?

[mnowax]

Me? I thought it was obvious by now. MoS!

lesser to thadmiral and fritz.

[Toaster Strudel]

Me? I thought it was obvious by now. MoS!

lesser to thadmiral and fritz.

You're busing AT LEAST ONE of these three players. Thanks for the tip, scumbag.

[Mastermind of Sin]

mnowax wouldn't have the balls (or the chance) to bus me, because I'd bus him a hell of a lot faster than he could bus me.

[mnowax]

TS, if you are going to insult me, call me something that i am.

[Mastermind of Sin]

You feel insulted because you're called a scumbag? WTF are you on? Are you one of those kids that has emotional trauma or something?

[Yosarian2]

Me? I thought it was obvious by now. MoS!

lesser to thadmiral and fritz.

ACtually, I was talking to theadmerial.

[Toaster Strudel]

mnowax wouldn't have the balls (or the chance) to bus me, because I'd bus him a hell of a lot faster than he could bus me.

You could have agreed to a scenario beforehand... but that's unlikely. More likely he's busing ThAdmiral or Fritzler.

[ThAdmiral]

yeah, i have question. Are you scum?

No.

Ok then. Why have you been semi-lurking and refuisng to say anything relevent for such a long time now? Who do you think is scum? If you were king, who would you kill right now?

Bascially I'm finding hard to keep up with this game, plus I've been disheartened by the amount of times I've been wrong, so I don't really hold my opinion in this game in high regard anymore.
I've realized I

don't

know who scum is, at all, and if I was king I would probably just listen to public opinion/the best presented argument.