Blitz 1: C9++ (GAME OVER!)

[Marge]

Dear Diary,

I have learned so much from this strange game of mafia. The players think lurking isn't scummy.
Is it me or is that crazy?

You're generalizing without cause, but yeah, Kraeg's response is suspicious.

Besides the lack of reading and comprehension I'm predicting a scum win for the very first blitz mafia game.
It's sad that I get a better conversation from my Homie then I get from the players who are in this game.
Well diary, I guess I should maybe start drinking like my husband and play dumb from here on in.

Quit playing the martyr. You only have 2 votes.

Claiming outside of an agreed-upon massclaim is bad for town. In my first game here I claimed VT unprompted and took massive amounts of shit for it. A few players with big reputations can get away with it, but in general it's frowned upon.

By claiming VT, either:

- you've narrowed down the pool of potential PRs for scum to aim at, or
- you're lying

Either way it doesn't come across good.

Where you town or scum the game you are referring to?
If town, then again why is this scummy to you?
If scum, carry on.
And again, it's not scummy anything you stated. I'm not being a martyr. I'm commenting because of the following:

I've asked questions that players do not respond to.
I have explained my actions multiple times to the point the subject is really just dumb or people tunnel because???
You tell me why it should make sense at all.
There is an ignore feature on this site and no one has told me about it, right?

[Persivul]

Quit playing the martyr. You only have 2 votes.

Claiming outside of an agreed-upon massclaim is bad for town. In my first game here I claimed VT unprompted and took massive amounts of shit for it. A few players with big reputations can get away with it, but in general it's frowned upon.

By claiming VT, either:

- you've narrowed down the pool of potential PRs for scum to aim at, or
- you're lying

Either way it doesn't come across good.

Where you town or scum the game you are referring to?

Town. IIRC I replaced in during D1.

If town, then again why is this scummy to you?

For reasons stated above. Note that I did it once, but I don't do it any more, as the reasoning was explained to me and it makes sense.

BTW, I have images turned off, so don't put anything important to me in them.

[farside22]

Vote: persivul

[Ythan]

[farside22]

Hi handsome

[Ythan]

It'll cool to see a farside post in my game but I get the feeling it doesn't belong here!

[Persivul]

Hi handsome

Hello!

[Persivul]

It'll cool to see a farside post in my game but I get the feeling it doesn't belong here!

Just look at me...how could she stay away?

[Ythan]

I still have no idea who you are.

[Vedith]

I still have no idea who you are.

He's the king...

[Rob14]

I believe farside is a player in this game who alt slipped; I'm waiting for her to claim the post with her alt.

[Kraeg]

@Persivul. If your concern is my post count, then let me be clear that I am on a different time zone. I don't live in US, and not anywhere near it. This explains why I came in the game late. Had I came in during the start of the game, I would have a higher post count right now. Usually my available time to post is the time when almost everyone isn't available so usually I don't get to have a "real time/spontaneous" convo in mafia games, which then leads to a lower post count. And most of the time, I can only log in once or twice to check the thread which is why I joined a Blitz Game since the deadline is shorter, and the pace is faster. I don't have a lot of time for random chit chat, which usually happens in the traditional game deadlines because they have 2 weeks to sort out everything. I can't promise to have 50 posts every 24 hours, but you can expect that I'll post at least 2-3 times every 24 hours. I hope that's clear.

[Kop]

Also one flaw is the set up may have an sk

Not a flaw. An additional kpn makes it harder on scum to fake claim.

Looks like scum will know there is an sk and just relay on them for kills

They won't know for sure until night one is finished. And a SK is just as dangerous to them, as a cop and vigilante is, so they won't be necessarily be relying on them for the kills.

[Kop]

Titus was saying I "lurked" And was voting me because I want offline for 3 hours to watch football games. He called me out for lurking after 15 minutes.
Also the massclaim seemed like scum trying to find power roles.

PEDIT FLUBBER: Im at L-1, and I would like someone else to vote Ranger before I vote him.

If I vote Ranger, what does that alter? Seriously?

Blocky shouldn't be at L-1. Agreeing with the current wagons can be opportunistic. It can also mean that the people on those wagons are making good arguments and persuading people, which is what town is supposed to do. I rather think someone is opportunistic when they make abrupt changes from one wagon to another.

On the positive side, he noted that Ranger is buddying, which is something I thought too after Ranger proposed a town block.

Four people - Kraeg, Ocean, Kop, ETL - have post counts in the single digits. I'll bet there's 1-2 scum there. From the rest I'm suspicious of Marge and Ranger.

I hate Titus' breaking idea, but I butt heads with Titus on breaking almost every time we play together so that's not giving me a read.

I don't like town blocks, especially when there is no confirmed townies to be within a block. I understand and back it up, if it is made up with players who have been confirmed as town, in one way or another. But not when they are unconfirmed, regardless of how townie they look. A scum member could easily be town read for there actions within the game, and slip into the block which will make it harder for the rest of us to convince that they are scum if the people within the block don't believe that is the case.

You could be right that there could be 1 or 2 scum within the players who have single digits, but however I wouldn't use that as alignment indicative. ETL has only one post in the game, and I believe that was a vote on Titus, in RVS.

That slot needs prodding if it hasn't already been done so

. Ocean has pretty much focused on Titus for the whole 4 posts made, promised us a more substancial post tomorrow. If he fails to follow up on that, I think that would require pressure on Ocean. Kraeg I am not sure about, yeah your in a different zone but you can still interact, you can make the post then read back the next time your on? Yeah it won't be like a chat room, where you make a post the person responds pretty much straight away, but you can still interact. It is difficult when you sign off and come back on and there's 10 pages to read through, but you can overcome that.

[Kop]

Titus it may pay for you to rethink everything. Mass claiming day one is a big no no.

Usually you're right. Open setup. Fast deadlines. Hard to fake claim. Hard to kill BC choice must be made in 24 hours. Mass claim good in this situation.

It is not good, whilst yes I have thought about it, I still think the negatives overrule the positives. We roleclaim further down the line when numbers tell us so, but not day one. Scum won't have a hard choice if they see what roles are out there. Are you proposing scum kill the PR's whilst we lynch the VT's?

[Flubbernugget]

@kraeg can we get some reads or something then

[Flubbernugget]

I won't complain about a naked vote for the sake of it being a naked vote but the naked votes in this game are pretty awful tbh

[Flubbernugget]

Why is when ranger doing it scummy?

It struck me as suspicious because it happened so fast:
156 - Says flubber and titus are towny
157 - Adds vedith
159 - Adds ythan

That sequence of posts struck me as odd. Not so odd to call it out right away, but when someone else noticed it too, it was worth supporting.

Throwing vedith and Ythan in a town pile right now is pretty ew

[Flubbernugget]

I'm making a post so I'll know where I'm caught up to. Don't care about anything any of you are saying rn.

What do you care about?

Let's talk about something that interests you

[Titus]

Blocky, editing wikis is not anonymous. So you think I am annoying. Best to put that out there.

[EspeciallyTheLies]

Overall, pretty confident in {BlockyMan, Firebringer, Marge, EspeciallyTheLies}. I'd be extremely surprised to see a scum outside these names.

This is amazing, considering I've made one post

[EspeciallyTheLies]

Oh jesus. So many missed pages. BLAH. HATE YOU ALL.

I'll catch up throughout the day and get into this. Sorry.

[Ythan]

I'm making a post so I'll know where I'm caught up to. Don't care about anything any of you are saying rn.

What do you care about?

Let's talk about something that interests you

Chillin on this good wagon for the time being.

[Kop]

Does anybody not find it strange that Blocky has been at L-1 for a while now, and nobody has posted intent or even hammered him. Does this spell an indication that scum are on his wagon?

[Kop]

Already on his wagon that should say.