Open 38 - Jester Mafia 12p (Game Over!) - before 484

[Kerplunk]

I think I'd actually support a

replacement

for pooky, with Jimmy at a close second.

If the players are still on this site and reading this game there is no need for a replacement. If you don't like the way they are playing, that doesn't mean they should be replaced.

[Atticus]

Killing is what Max suggested...

I understand but repeating it doesn't make it any better, just makes you two look in cahoots with eachother. My Pooky pressure vote got nowhere, so for now

Unvote:

d3sisted and Max are the two I've got my eye on currently but not enough to place a vote.

Not to kick a dead horse, but I said the opposite, yes? Max suggest Nightkilling pooky mainly becauyse pooky isn't productive. I suggest replacement as a better alternative.

Unless you're suggesting that I am in cahoots with... Pooky?

[ryan]

Above post was about Pooky.

As for Jimmy: Friday. It is now Tuesday.

Oh I understand that, I'm just saying Pooky has been alot more inactive than Jimmy has been.

[distad]

Not to mention his two most recent posts are votes without evidence. <--- Pooky

As for Jimmy: Friday. It is now Tuesday.

Yeah... stateside it was a long weekend, and I have a feeling that Monday was a bank holiday in UK, as well. I'm not worried about him not being here over a long weekend in a game where he has been otherwise somewhat active.

[d3sisted]

OOH, yeah, forgot about the long weekend. Labour day for us Canadians.

[ryan]

I think I'd actually support a

replacement

for pooky, with Jimmy at a close second.

If the players are still on this site and reading this game there is no need for a replacement. If you don't like the way they are playing, that doesn't mean they should be replaced.

Reading the game and participating are two completely different things

[distad]

I think I'd actually support a

replacement

for pooky, with Jimmy at a close second.

If the players are still on this site and reading this game there is no need for a replacement. If you don't like the way they are playing, that doesn't mean they should be replaced.

QFT

[distad]

Yes... and if they are lurking, it is their choice. Just because we don't enjoy their gameplay doesn't mean we can replace them.

We might want to use that as a reason to lynch (or determine as jester) but that should be the extent of it.

[Blue Zebra]

PookyTheMagicalBear has been prodded.

Vote Count

d3sisted (5): Kerplunk, Numenorean7, Atticus, distad, Jimmy R
Atticus (2): somestrangeflea, PookyTheMagicalBear
ryan (1): JDodge
JDodge (1): Jex
Max (1): d3sisted

Not Voting: Max, ryan

[Jimmy R]

So I don't post for 3 days and you want a replacement? Nothing to do with you squirming and the fact my vote is on you of course.

Don't have much to say that hasn't already been brought up at the moment so rather than rehash old arguments I'm just sitting tight. Happy with where my vote is.

[Atticus]

Actually, you can replace people for lurking. The point mafia is communication. If you cut yourself off, you cut off the only fair resource the town has. Sure, it could be a good scum tactic, but it's, in a sense, cheating. Which is why people should be replaced for it.

[Atticus]

The point

of the game

mafia

[Jimmy R]

After 3 days over a weekend? It's hardly lurking.

[somestrangeflea]

Wo-uh... I mean, Egads! Numen's PBPA analysis on d3sisted was, in my opinion, fantastic.

Excuse me? I've managed to respond to each of those points individually in my defense, effectively reducing his analysis to ashes. There's no base in it any more, there's nothing "fantastic" about it.

And, in turn, he responded to each of those points in a way which, IMO, more convincing. You made no response to that post though...

The fact that you have still refused to respond to either this or Numen's post I refer to prompts me to

FoS: d3sisted

I'm not putting you within hammering (or self-hammering, as the case may be) distance yet...

[Kerplunk]

My last post about metagaming.

Actually, you can replace people for lurking. The point mafia is communication. If you cut yourself off, you cut off the only fair resource the town has. Sure, it could be a good scum tactic, but it's, in a sense, cheating. Which is why people should be replaced for it.

I disagree with you here. If the mod prods a player and that player is saying that he is following the game but chooses not to post, that is his good right. Maybe the guy lurking wants to see who first notices it and thinks this is a scumtell (or not).

The point of mafia is not communication, but the point is to win. I agree with you that if you are a townie, it's in your best interests if you post sufficiently to get the discussion going. If you are pro-town and you lurk it is *probably* bad play.

But bad play doesn't mean you should replace someone. It is also bad play to hammer someone at page one. But should that player be replaced? Only if a player *wants* screw everyone else, he should be replaced. But if everyone plays to win, no-one should be replaced.

[Kerplunk]

I am sorry, I also mean the point of

the game

mafia.

To add: if you believe someone is purposefully cutting himself off to evade suspiciousness, use your vote to get him to post.

[ryan]

I am sorry, I also mean the point of

the game

mafia.

To add: if you believe someone is purposefully cutting himself off to evade suspiciousness, use your vote to get him to post

.

That isn't always true. I placed a vote on Pooky to get him posting and you saw where that got......nowhere. People who sign up for a game and only participate when they are given a prod irritate me.

[Atticus]

After 3 days over a weekend? It's hardly lurking.

Not everything is about you, I was talking about Pooky.

[distad]

d3 called him out, Atticus...

[Atticus]

Heh, well, perhaps I misunderstand the situation.

[Atticus]

Or, at least, I figured he was talking to me, since I was the last one to post before his post. While in truth, I had posted just after Jimmy R, even though I was addressing distad.

[Kerplunk]

I am sorry, I also mean the point of

the game

mafia.

To add: if you believe someone is purposefully cutting himself off to evade suspiciousness, use your vote to get him to post.

That isn't always true. I placed a vote on Pooky to get him posting and you saw where that got......nowhere. People who sign up for a game and only participate when they are given a prod irritate me.

I can understand that they are irritating, but it is no reason to replace them. It would also irritate me if you vote for me.

It is his right not to post, but if he really doesn't post than I will also be inclined to vote for him. But I think d3sisted is more suspicious for now. And why? Mostly gut

Most (experienced) players who are quiet at the first days will post more on later days. I am willing to give Pooky the benefit of the doubt for now.

[ryan]

That doesn't give them an excuse just because they are exprienced. I hate the fact that players who "play that way" are given a free pass to Day 2. That's just a joke if you ask me. Everyone is guilty until proven innocent in mafiascum.

[d3sisted]

Wo-uh... I mean, Egads! Numen's PBPA analysis on d3sisted was, in my opinion, fantastic.

Excuse me? I've managed to respond to each of those points individually in my defense, effectively reducing his analysis to ashes. There's no base in it any more, there's nothing "fantastic" about it.

And, in turn, he responded to each of those points in a way which, IMO, more convincing. You made no response to that post though...

The fact that you have still refused to respond to either this or Numen's post I refer to prompts me to

FoS: d3sisted

I'm not putting you within hammering (or self-hammering, as the case may be) distance yet...

I don't see why I should respond to it when my original case sufficiently answers everything there. But if you really insist, I guess I could do up the response later tonight.

[Max]

we need to move onto a night here the first day lynch is always vital and normally the first day is over by now admittedly theres a jester but it can't rule the game for all we know it could be me it could be ryan, d3sisted anyone but the only players that are near hammer is d3sisted I think he is mafia but with that comes a risk of ending the game prematurely

HoS: d3sisted