1. Dierfire
2. Garmr
5. Dwlee99
6. Meanmelter Felissan
7. herrcombs
8. Hieirama
9. mykonian
10. Lalendra
12. Keyser Söze
Ok, time to put in some effort.
First interaction between haschel and Herr can go either way. It's clearly deliberate from Haschel's point of view so I can't really say all that much about it. Think in my first skim I gave herr a pass for this one but I don't think I should.
takes till fucking #246 that we actually get some interactions. Almost as if we could have seen this earlier. Game is decently in flux at that time with the disbandening of the garmr wagon so that's something.
Dwlee is also obv town from this.
Personally I dislike the way he deals with garmrs claim, It's like super neutral analysis, if that makes sense.
I don't really dare to give hier a townread out of this. It's something but probably not enough.
*Lalendra gets town points for 259
*322 are obviously points for dier. I probably should take him off the list for that.
2. Garmr
6. Meanmelter Felissan
7. herrcombs
8. Hieirama
10. Lalendra
12. Keyser Söze
I have the vague suspicion the entire start of the pistache wagon were town, even if 2 of the players on it are still in the list above. Garmr obviously is different, that wasn't a vote in response to pistache's post, but one that had us waiting for a hammer. I guess you could go either way with herr, that was just a response to a bad looking post, he could do that as scum. Soze though, seems to sit in a town place with that wagon. But lets forget about that, has nothing to do with the last flip.
434/447 make hier town. I misremembered with the previous post that haschel got some pressure later but he has to be aware he's not doing all that great. Getting actual pressure on a uncertain looking scumbuddy that hier would be at a time where town is clearly searching is a recipe for disaster, he wouldn't do it.
527 isn't going to be a bus. Nobody was talking about haschel, now soze finally decides to make a vote, he could have let it be. So that's soze 90% sure not haschels buddy.
With 662 I am glad I haven't scratched herr from the list yet. His opinion on haschel is very wishy washy.
664. The vote that gets haschel lynched imo. Think it might have come from a previous "read" on her so that he felt safe in doing that. Issue is, the way lalendra is playing, from scum point of view it's pretty w/e. Just like haschel, if things go as they go then, lalendra won't make it. It annoys me, but that could very well be a bus. Might even explain why he was in such a hurry to get on the wagon.
745. And guess who kickstarts the haschel wagon, in stead of going for say, hier, or garmr or w/e. Herr. There's no way he does that as scum, he could just let it be hope bbt and I don't get our shit together and end up on dier someway. Soze follows and with those two I think this lynch is going to happen.
2. Garmr
6. Meanmelter Felissan
10. Lalendra
I have to admit that it is quite annoying that dier and hier start up a counterwagon on lalendra (while I liked them for town), garmr follows but at least I haven't be able to find a town interaction with haschel yet, they basically didn't post apart from haschel's neutral response to garmr's claim.
I don't think anyone should give garmr townpoints for his heavy push on lalendra. It's very deliberate, that works for either side, he knows what he's doing. Big moves are easier to do as scum.
885. Herr picks the haschel lynch. Now together with the previous, I am happy to call him town. Exception is if lalendra-haschel was actually his choice, in that case we've got shit to figure out.
Dier's hammer isn't the best ever. Can't really be too fussed though.
Now the next issue is the 3 I end up with. There are some imperfect townies that have dropped off, but suppose I got this far (and lets be fair, if soze/dwlee are scum, I don't think I'm going to find out about it).
Mean's decidedly going for garmr. Quite singleminded in his efforts. Little interaction at all with lalendra or the rest of the game for that matter. I think I may have given too much credit to feli's first post. Mean works with either pair. I could easily see garmr-mean as scum scum. There's no threat. If garmr is scum, after the start of day 1 at some point he went "fuck it" and started playing scum balls to the walls, see how far he could get with that. As a bud, that's an easy case to make. Looks good when he flips too, and after that first half day 1, I think that must have been the plan if garmr is scum.
Otoh, suppose garmr is scum, there's no way day 2 happens, or this day, with lalendra as scum. He's the minor scum guy, lalendra was fine up till the flash wagon that got her to claim. Garmr was a key part of that. He could play balls to the walls, but I'd say he wouldn't actively try to get in the way of his scumpartners.
Leaves mean-lalendra. I present to you the only evidence these two players are aware they are in the same game.
In post 756, Meanmelter wrote: In post 724, Lalendra wrote:To be clear, I am still voting garmr. However if the Dier wagon picks up steam, I will gladly sheep the fk out of it, because I am happy lynching either.
I REALLY do not like that last statement. I understand you find Dier 'Obvscum' but I just dislike how it seems you are merely picking whichever door the most people are going into.
I
think
scum buddies wouldn't talk to another like this.
tl;dr. If I try to narrow the scumpairs down after the haschel lynch, I end up with 2 that are somewhat likely. They are garmr-mean and lalendra-mean
Surrender, imagine and of course wear something nice.
