Mini 1732 - Super Smash Bros. Project M(afia) - D7!

[LicketyQuickety]

1.) Ms and GL both looked scummy to me on a first go through of the thread. I was thinking at the time that there's no way these two are scum together. I've changed my reads since then, sue me.

Why couldn't they be scum together?

2.) OK I don't see at all how I am not Scum hunting here. How many things have I done to try and poke at things? At this stage of the game do you really think that anyone has a lot to go on? I opened fishing for reactions and I got some which informs me on peoples alignment. I've reread the thread like 3-4 times now and each time I am picking up new things to think about. I made a rush at the start and I did it to reread those reactions that were happening when Scum are in their most unnatural state.

You're setup specing. There's a difference.

You on the other had have only made face value stance on things and sheeped hard.

Am I? Just because I'm not up front with my judgements doesn't mean I'm not making them. And MS has been sheeping me, tyvm.

3.) OR, you know, everyone is Scum at this point and I'm trying to see who is Town first. AFAIK I still have my vote on the same person who I originally had my first Scum read on.

Why is you vote parking supposed to prove towniness?

Tails, I know I look Scummy because I have weird behavior, but I have done way more than a pretty good portion of the players in this game so far. Your case is weak.

K, I'm done with this.

Give me your scum reads.

[Wanderer-nl]

Give me a good reason why Ascetic should be indicative of alignment.

As long as I believe the claim - and the specificness of the whole "3-shot" and "each person targeting" thing is making me believe it - I at least know he's not lying.

But, 9/10 times, role abilities are non-indicative of alignment. Particularly in role madness games. Mods love to put super scummy roles as town to break massclaims.

I'm decently well versed in mafia. I'm not omniscient. Ascetic can appear as both town or scum. Speculating which alignment Mario is purely because he's Ascetic is stupid. End of.

I would have not had to make all those posts asking you to give your thoughts on ascetic if you would have just said this in the first place. Did you think this was common knowledge or something so not even worth discussing or what? I do however, find it weird that you're willing to believe that MM is in fact ascetic just taking him at his word. You seem to understand some in depth things about the ascetic role, however, you once again fail at explaining thing to the degree that they should be thought about. It should be well apparent that in this game the implication of someone being ascetic, let alone claiming it

withing the first 24 hours

should be at least cause to think somewhat indepthly about the subject given that you are as you say well versed in mafia. But lets say you are 100% correct in this. Surely this would say a great deal about MM for claiming ascetic within the

first what 12 hours of the thread opening?

I am tempted to believe that you are just not trying too hard to solve this game at this point in time. IIRC, MM did not in fact give much of a reason to believe that his claim was true. Why did you believe him out of curiosity?

So this what I bolded kinda really gives me the idea that you're trying to make Davsto look as bad as you possibly can.

[Wanderer-nl]

^Or Mario, but I don't really think that matters to you.

[Davsto]

Give me a good reason why Ascetic should be indicative of alignment.

As long as I believe the claim - and the specificness of the whole "3-shot" and "each person targeting" thing is making me believe it - I at least know he's not lying.

But, 9/10 times, role abilities are non-indicative of alignment. Particularly in role madness games. Mods love to put super scummy roles as town to break massclaims.

I'm decently well versed in mafia. I'm not omniscient. Ascetic can appear as both town or scum. Speculating which alignment Mario is purely because he's Ascetic is stupid. End of.

I would have not had to make all those posts asking you to give your thoughts on ascetic if you would have just said this in the first place. Did you think this was common knowledge or something so not even worth discussing or what? I do however, find it weird that you're willing to believe that MM is in fact ascetic just taking him at his word. You seem to understand some in depth things about the ascetic role, however, you once again fail at explaining thing to the degree that they should be thought about. It should be well apparent that in this game the implication of someone being ascetic, let alone claiming it

withing the first 24 hours

should be at least cause to think somewhat indepthly about the subject given that you are as you say well versed in mafia. But lets say you are 100% correct in this. Surely this would say a great deal about MM for claiming ascetic within the

first what 12 hours of the thread opening?

I am tempted to believe that you are just not trying too hard to solve this game at this point in time. IIRC, MM did not in fact give much of a reason to believe that his claim was true. Why did you believe him out of curiosity?

So this what I bolded kinda really gives me the idea that you're trying to make Davsto look as bad as you possibly can.

You're only just getting this picture?

[LicketyQuickety]

Give me a good reason why Ascetic should be indicative of alignment.

As long as I believe the claim - and the specificness of the whole "3-shot" and "each person targeting" thing is making me believe it - I at least know he's not lying.

But, 9/10 times, role abilities are non-indicative of alignment. Particularly in role madness games. Mods love to put super scummy roles as town to break massclaims.

I'm decently well versed in mafia. I'm not omniscient. Ascetic can appear as both town or scum. Speculating which alignment Mario is purely because he's Ascetic is stupid. End of.

I would have not had to make all those posts asking you to give your thoughts on ascetic if you would have just said this in the first place. Did you think this was common knowledge or something so not even worth discussing or what? I do however, find it weird that you're willing to believe that MM is in fact ascetic just taking him at his word. You seem to understand some in depth things about the ascetic role, however, you once again fail at explaining thing to the degree that they should be thought about. It should be well apparent that in this game the implication of someone being ascetic, let alone claiming it

withing the first 24 hours

should be at least cause to think somewhat indepthly about the subject given that you are as you say well versed in mafia. But lets say you are 100% correct in this. Surely this would say a great deal about MM for claiming ascetic within the

first what 12 hours of the thread opening?

I am tempted to believe that you are just not trying too hard to solve this game at this point in time. IIRC, MM did not in fact give much of a reason to believe that his claim was true. Why did you believe him out of curiosity?

So this what I bolded kinda really gives me the idea that you're trying to make Davsto look as bad as you possibly can.

What's wrong with putting a little pressure on people?

[LicketyQuickety]

So far I'm in desperate need of a town read.

W-nl, do you have any reads at all?

[Wanderer-nl]

Yeah no not really I just came back because I wanted some distraction, I'm probably going to get to reads tomorrow-night.

[LicketyQuickety]

Yeah no not really I just came back because I wanted some distraction, I'm probably going to get to reads tomorrow-night.

Thanks for being honest.

[MarioManiac4]

why is everyone town
oh wait smiffle and sonic and tails aren't
yay

[LicketyQuickety]

why is everyone town
oh wait smiffle and sonic and tails aren't
yay

Thanks for reminding me.

Can I ask for your reads now?

[MarioManiac4]

why is everyone town
oh wait smiffle and sonic and tails aren't
yay

Thanks for reminding me.

Can I ask for your reads now?

...

[LicketyQuickety]

VOTE: Mario

[MarioManiac4]

VOTE: Mario

TRANSCRIPT OF TODAY:
Mario: MS, Tails and smiffles are scum
Lickety: What are your reads?
Mario: ...
Lickety: VOTE MARIO

[LicketyQuickety]

VOTE: Mario

TRANSCRIPT OF TODAY:
Mario: MS, Tails and smiffles are scum
Lickety: What are your reads?
Mario: ...
Lickety: VOTE MARIO

Thanks for noticing, your such a doll.

Seriously though, you expect me to believe that you have the same reads that I had when I gave my first ones. I mean, the exact same reads?

[LicketyQuickety]

I have nothing agains you mario, and we are GOING to hydra at some point, but your reads suck

[MarioManiac4]

VOTE: Mario

TRANSCRIPT OF TODAY:
Mario: MS, Tails and smiffles are scum
Lickety: What are your reads?
Mario: ...
Lickety: VOTE MARIO

Thanks for noticing, your such a doll.

Seriously though, you expect me to believe that you have the same reads that I had when I gave my first ones. I mean, the exact same reads?

TBH I skip readlists, they rarely contain useful info unless you're scum or stuck.
I'm not actually a doll.

[LicketyQuickety]

VOTE: Mario

TRANSCRIPT OF TODAY:
Mario: MS, Tails and smiffles are scum
Lickety: What are your reads?
Mario: ...
Lickety: VOTE MARIO

Thanks for noticing, your such a doll.

Seriously though, you expect me to believe that you have the same reads that I had when I gave my first ones. I mean, the exact same reads?

TBH I skip readlists, they rarely contain useful info unless you're scum or stuck.
I'm not actually a doll.

Can you give me A read then? Like a single read, preferably in detail? I'm not going to let you slide through just buddying me all game manipulating mah feels, its not going to happen.

Give me a Town read please.

[MarioManiac4]

VOTE: Mario

TRANSCRIPT OF TODAY:
Mario: MS, Tails and smiffles are scum
Lickety: What are your reads?
Mario: ...
Lickety: VOTE MARIO

Thanks for noticing, your such a doll.

Seriously though, you expect me to believe that you have the same reads that I had when I gave my first ones. I mean, the exact same reads?

TBH I skip readlists, they rarely contain useful info unless you're scum or stuck.
I'm not actually a doll.

Can you give me A read then? Like a single read, preferably in detail? I'm not going to let you slide through just buddying me all game manipulating mah feels, its not going to happen.

Give me a Town read please.

davsto is town. you might be town. ms is probably scum. tails might be scum. smiffles is scum. all alone is probably town, genda might be scum.
i appear to work on gut far more than you do. it works though.

[LicketyQuickety]

VOTE: Mario

TRANSCRIPT OF TODAY:
Mario: MS, Tails and smiffles are scum
Lickety: What are your reads?
Mario: ...
Lickety: VOTE MARIO

Thanks for noticing, your such a doll.

Seriously though, you expect me to believe that you have the same reads that I had when I gave my first ones. I mean, the exact same reads?

TBH I skip readlists, they rarely contain useful info unless you're scum or stuck.
I'm not actually a doll.

Can you give me A read then? Like a single read, preferably in detail? I'm not going to let you slide through just buddying me all game manipulating mah feels, its not going to happen.

Give me a Town read please.

davsto is town. you might be town. ms is probably scum. tails might be scum. smiffles is scum. all alone is probably town, genda might be scum.
i appear to work on gut far more than you do. it works though.

I just updated my wiki, like within a half hour. See how I read people from there.

[smiffle]

Read somewhere that proof-reading your posts would make people take you more seriously.

I thought that MS' "BTOOM" thing was a dayvig of sorts. Was wondering how Ascetic relates to the % mechanic, since according to OP there are no standard kills.

I'm pretty sure it's super straight forward. Percentage hits, but nothing else does.

Come on Dav, you have to know how an ascetic works.

[Davsto]

But idk because usually it's "all actions hit except kills" but it's unclear if the whole % thing is classed as kills or not

anywho

let's move on

[smiffle]

And where is smiffle exactly?

what do people think of day chat for Scum here?

I'm here for you. Come to papa my little scum.

No, but seriously, what is this:

People I like as Town here:

Dave
Ms OR GL
MM

Lickety, why are your reads kind of jank? Dav's meh, Mario's voting me, but I kinda got a thing for his claim, and Ms is dicking around with his mini wagon on anyone tails votes for, but he's barely pushed anything unlike tails. Idk about Gl. I should probably close reads his posts more closely.

[smiffle]

But idk because usually it's "all actions hit except kills" but it's unclear if the whole % thing is classed as kills or not

anywho

let's move on

Pretty sure it said percent leads to death, but w/e

Moving on to you, Dav, who're your top three scum reads atm.

Mine are Lickety, who I'll cover more in depth later.

You

And possibly MS, but who knows about him. My mind is hazy.

[smiffle]

People who target me get no result or their action fails
Pedit: You really don't

But I do have a guess.

Cool!
Wouldn't even mind you revealing your guess. After all, NoNormalKills.

Scum could have daychat. Also could not

Useless spec is useless.

And just to be clear, your role is "3-shot ascetic with a twist?"

[MarioManiac4]

People who target me get no result or their action fails
Pedit: You really don't

But I do have a guess.

Cool!
Wouldn't even mind you revealing your guess. After all, NoNormalKills.

Scum could have daychat. Also could not

Useless spec is useless.

And just to be clear, your role is "3-shot ascetic with a twist?"

basically.