Mini Normal 1719 - Flavorless Fun! [Game Over!]

[Garmr]

Her past two post look pretty opportunistic to me

[Dwlee99]

Me: I really like these questions :O

Lalendra: Too many questions fence sitting lynch !!

*flips table*

[Garmr]

@dwlee simple lalendras scum.

[Dwlee99]

But the doctor claim..

[Garmr]

Scum can claim doctor to through.

[Dierfire]

Right, I'm catching up now.

[Dierfire]

@DWL

From the posts you quoted Garmr I see a scum team between Dier and Lalendra. They are distancing but back tracking to avoid having the lynch go through.

I think that dier is town.

These don't go together.

@Lalendra

I reread Dierfire's ISO and I'm back to FOS'ing him. He asks a lot of questions of other people, but offers very little of his own opinions; it seems like he is just mostly fence-sitting, and offering very wishy-washy opinions, like he's trying to maintain distance from his reads in case he's wrong. I don't get the impression that it's just overly-cautious town play. I'd be comfortable with lynching him today.

This...sounds very fake. I wonder whether you could substantiate these claims further.

[Dierfire]

@BBT

OK, so are we lynching Dier yet?

I've been fairly tolerant of this so far, but if you're wrong and not lying, then you need to get to work.

[Keyser Söze]

To be clear, I am still voting garmr. However if the Dier wagon picks up steam,

I will gladly sheep the fk out of it, because I am happy lynching either

.

Her past two post look pretty opportunistic to me

Post 724 actually made me laugh as I thought it was exactly something scum would be thinking, but too afraid to verbalize in the thread It's a bold/'honest' post from Lalendra - that scum wouldn't usually make in her position.

[Keyser Söze]

I'm finally caught up - I think we need to lynch one of Haschel or Dier today and I have a strong preference for Dier.

Would also lynch Keyser.

His strongest scum-read is Dierfire, but I have not seen much interactions between BlueBloodedToffee and Dierfire. Town-BlueBloodedToffee would usually lock horns with his scum-read. Here, BlueBloodedToffee is basically only posting 'I want Dierfire lynched' without adding any ammunition (talking AROUND Dierfire, not directly AT Dierfire):

OK, so are we lynching Dier yet?

Second part, I'm confused as to why you're not voting Dier?

I can assure you I'm not moving off of Dier.

My lynch preference would be Dier > Haschel > Lalendra. I liked your case and I agree that Lalendra is scummy, I just really don't like that Dier joined that wagon when he did.

I will continue to push for Dier.

Let's talk. Thoughts on Dier and Mykonian?

Can I get your thoughts on Dier please?

What are your thoughts on Dier?

I do not believe the sincerity of BlueBloodedToffee's scum-read - is he scum-reading Dierfire for meta-reasons?

I'm not seeing the Dier town read - talk to me about it. Everything he is posting feels off to me and

I can usually read Dier as town pretty quickly

.

I think I can read you pretty well, yeah. I usually town read you quite early, we both know this, I can't be bothered to go game searching.

This is not town Dier

.

Why do you think this is?

I don't think you've ever shown much difficulty in working me out before

.

BlueBloodedToffee is now on my uncomfortable list.

[Keyser Söze]

Did a quick skim. A Lalendra vote is exactly the sort of thing I can get behind.

Vote: Lalendra

.

Wouldn't mind a Hieirama lynch either

.

Is a Hieirama vote "exactly the sort of thing [you] can get behind too?"

I need to see some consistency.

[Keyser Söze]

If you wanna come at me. Do it.

[Dwlee99]

@Dierfire: I have a good memory. /s

Yea, idk. Individually you are town but if lale's scum you're scum. Cause in the latter post I read your ISO and that looked fine by me. But lale is still distancing it seems.

[Garmr]

bull fucking shit lale is town individually she has provided no reasoning at all day 1 showed she wanted to vote town over scum day 1 and her reasoning for her two top scum reads are not even there. There's plenty to point to scum.

[Hieirama]

Still working on the catch up post with all the questions answered but I just want to add a little something that poped up when reading;

I don't think that this Lalandra v Garmr is Scum v Scum, and with myself doubting that either of them are scum with the uncounterclaimed claims...
This could be a big Town v Town, and I'm starting to see that as likley in my head.
The belief that one if them is Scum... If scum does get a mislych, it would look terrible for them when the other flips Town, as everyone else is believing that it's a Town v Scum....
So no I'm not taking sides on the Gar v Lala. I feel like scum is hiding along Town reads.. I'll try comparing Meta of a few after school.

[Keyser Söze]

Could you quote Dierfire's posts regarding

these

comments:

I reread Dierfire's ISO and I'm back to FOS'ing him. He asks a lot of questions of other people,

but

offers very little of his own opinions

;

it seems like he is just mostly fence-sitting

,

and offering very wishy-washy opinions

, like he's trying to maintain distance from his reads in case he's wrong. I don't get the impression that it's just overly-cautious town play. I'd be comfortable with lynching him today.

[Garmr]

I am getting pissed off that people don't even consider the fact that lala hasn't done a ounce of scum hunting this whole game and people are ignoring what the fuck is wrong with you people.

[Dwlee99]

bull fucking shit lale is town individually she has provided no reasoning at all day 1 showed she wanted to vote town over scum day 1 and her reasoning for her two top scum reads are not even there. There's plenty to point to scum.

Uhm, my post was clearly about dier, not lale. I am saying "If lale is scum dierfire is a possible scum team, but from Dier's ISO they seem town". I did not say lale's ISO seems townie to me. Please read the post carefully before overreacting.

[Garmr]

that was more aimed at heir

[Hieirama]

@Garmr
Say that she hasn't done any

original

scumhunting would've fit nicer there. "Nothing at all", isn't necessarily true, since she does have reads and reasons to back them up.

I usually don't throw reads around based on hunting proficiency, since really, it varies from person to person.

((Oops, lunch break's over, g2g!))

[herrcombs]

I didn't realize that we have less than four IRL days left before the deadline. We should probably consolidate, yeah?

From what I understand, several people don't want to take sides in the Garmr vs Lalendra thing. I can understand the desire to let their PR claims sort themselves out. If I had to compromise (someone who's not Garmr/Lalendra/Hieirama), I'd pick Haschel. It seems like he's popping in this game every so often only to take little prods at people without building serious reads or analyzing the game to any degree of depth. He's flown under my radar all game but I could definitely see that as a scum tactic.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Haschel Cedricson

[Keyser Söze]

I'd pick Haschel. It seems like he's popping in this game every so often only to take little prods at people without building serious reads or analyzing the game to any degree of depth.

I was uncomfortable with the timing of his vote:

Post 616, promises to catch-up:

Hey, I've been busy getting my own game off the ground. I'll get caught up tomorrow, I promise. Might even vote!

Post 664, Haschel Cedricson does not post a 'catch-up' analysis, just states he has made a "quick skim":

Did a quick skim

. A Lalendra vote is exactly the sort of thing I can get behind.

Vote: Lalendra

. Wouldn't mind a Hieirama lynch either.

[I believe Haschel Cedricson's vote put Lalendra to L-1: I no longer think Haschel Cedricson-Lalendra are scum-scum] Since Lalendra's roleclaim, Haschel Cedricson has not pressed the player he was also happy to "lynch" (Hieirama).

VOTE: Haschel Cedricson

[Dierfire]

Phone post:

I just dropped my computer and now it won't take charge from the power cord. I'm still here but I will not be able to post from my computer until I get this issue fixed.

[Dierfire]

I meant to say also: I will not be making much use of quotes and the formatting may be off.

[Dierfire]

Anyway, the Haschel votes:
I don't really want to lynch him for that vote on Lalendra. She's still suspicious enough that I don't see that as a Mafia player trying to lynch quickly.
Honestly, if we're going to lynch a wagon opposed to Lalendra then we should lynch Garmr. His claim makes his power less useful if he is Town, and his wagon yields good information regardless of his alignment.
I'm still not convinced that we should be lynching either of them, though. I want Lalendra's answers.