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Post Post #4075 (ISO) » Sun Oct 04, 2015 6:21 am

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disagrees with Echo's theory of busing.
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Post Post #4076 (ISO) » Sun Oct 04, 2015 6:21 am

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In post 4072, Echo Echo wrote:town Vig Salamence delivered a shot onto Firebringer, who didn't die. This is clear indication that Firebringer was marked for death. My current theory was that Salamence was roleblocked that night.

Firebringer claimed 1 shot BP (Fake), which would have counterclaimed Sakura's "BP+JOAT" anyway


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Post Post #4077 (ISO) » Sun Oct 04, 2015 6:21 am

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In post 4074, DrippingGoofball wrote:
In post 4071, Sakura Hana wrote:1-Shot Bulletproof.


As an active ability? Weird.

I already stated it was passive
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Post Post #4078 (ISO) » Sun Oct 04, 2015 6:22 am

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Once again, you're suggesting that me (as supposed scum) would make the scumteam have 2 protective abilities from a 2-shot vig? that makes that role kinda useless no?
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Post Post #4079 (ISO) » Sun Oct 04, 2015 6:23 am

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In post 4066, DrippingGoofball wrote:Question: could Firebringer have been viewed as a LIABILITY that would be more useful to the team DEAD?

Idk if you know the whole story about this so I'll enlighten you in case you don't.

- Salamence, the two shot vig, asked Firebringer to claim immediately at the start of Day 4
- Firebringer continues to avoid claiming
- Salamence gets fed up with FB's shit and claims he shot Firebringer, and that Firebringer last night but he lived, so if he's BPV he should know very well that he should claim if the VIG is asking him to.
- Firebringer THEN claims Bullet Proof
- For some reason people start wagoning other people
- Sakura THEN claims her guilty (after proxying her vote to Salamence)

So it's not like FB was a beacon of townitude before Sakura claimed her guilty. There was already a large amount of suspicion on him which I think makes it more plausible for him to have been bussed.
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Post Post #4080 (ISO) » Sun Oct 04, 2015 6:23 am

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In post 4075, Sakura Hana wrote: disagrees with Echo's theory of busing.


That's interesting because you were on the vig's scumlist. Bus'ing a goon to survive as the scum's lone power role isn't a bad move.
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Post Post #4081 (ISO) » Sun Oct 04, 2015 6:23 am

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Post Post #4082 (ISO) » Sun Oct 04, 2015 6:24 am

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Supposed scenario:

Sakura scum with a roleblock.
Why would scumteam kill IaI instead of conf town ricastle and roleblocking IaI

Doesn't make sense to me.
Echo's a scum doctor.
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Post Post #4083 (ISO) » Sun Oct 04, 2015 6:24 am

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In post 4077, Sakura Hana wrote:
In post 4074, DrippingGoofball wrote:
In post 4071, Sakura Hana wrote:1-Shot Bulletproof.


As an active ability? Weird.

I already stated it was passive


And you used two active abilities night 3 & 4

What night was the kill blocked?
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Post Post #4084 (ISO) » Sun Oct 04, 2015 6:24 am

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In post 4078, Sakura Hana wrote:Once again, you're suggesting that me (as supposed scum) would make the scumteam have 2 protective abilities from a 2-shot vig? that makes that role kinda useless no?

Like I said earlier, none of those roles have been proven. Some might not exist if you're scum.
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Post Post #4085 (ISO) » Sun Oct 04, 2015 6:24 am

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In post 2457, Salamence20 wrote:
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Interesting points to note:

Sakura Hana is on every main wagon except for today, which actually makes me weary of her at the moment. Pisskop is also on every wagon except IaI D2, which looks really bad given that Sakura and TN were on that wagon. I sense some separation here, and I could see another scum in Sakura/Axle/Dav, as that looks like a really bad wagon at the time. Meanwhile, Im townreading EchoEcho for sure, because he lynched TN and it doesn't look like a bus. Going back to D2, you have a Vote from Sakura, Axle explaining his, and Dav just agreeing to vote Dav. Axle stays off TN's lynch while Sakura and Dav hop on. I think this means Axle is most likely scum with one of Sakura/Dav possibly. Adding to the fact that Flubber was lynched by Sakura and Dav, I doubt they are scum together.

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Confirmed Town:
Salamence20 - Vigilante Protector of all things flowery
Ricastle - Mason traveler from distant lands

Town:
Echo Echo, The Princess's Knight
Frogger, The Princess's Pet Frog
Ika, The Princess's Advisor

Townish:
Firebringer, Outspoken peasant
Spiffeh, The Princess's Aide
Shazam: The Lightning Captain

The Scumlist:
Sakura Hana: The Ill Fated Princess
Davsto: Illegal Village Gambler
AxleGreaser: The Princess's Gardener
Pisskop: Puppy with a past

Confirm Vote: Axle



Did you just... did you just quote a Salamence post that literally damned you?!
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Post Post #4086 (ISO) » Sun Oct 04, 2015 6:25 am

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In post 4079, Spiffeh wrote:So it's not like FB was a beacon of townitude before Sakura claimed her guilty. There was already a large amount of suspicion on him which I think makes it more plausible for him to have been bussed.

If this is true, why did i have such a hard time pushing for his lynch. You'd think ppl would lynch him without my guilty if this was the case
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Post Post #4087 (ISO) » Sun Oct 04, 2015 6:26 am

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In post 4085, Echo Echo wrote:Did you just... did you just quote a Salamence post that literally damned you?!

No, it shows that i had no reason to bus fire? he was already being townread along with Shazam.
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Post Post #4088 (ISO) » Sun Oct 04, 2015 6:26 am

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Holy crap, I thought DGB was the one that quoted that, but you know the post was clearly scumreading you right?
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Post Post #4089 (ISO) » Sun Oct 04, 2015 6:26 am

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In post 4079, Spiffeh wrote:Salamence, the two shot vig, asked Firebringer to claim immediately at the start of Day 4


OK so he shot Night 3.

mkay
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Post Post #4090 (ISO) » Sun Oct 04, 2015 6:26 am

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In post 4086, Sakura Hana wrote:If this is true, why did i have such a hard time pushing for his lynch. You'd think ppl would lynch him without my guilty if this was the case


You tried to copy me but sadly I have more style and more townskill than you ;p
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Post Post #4091 (ISO) » Sun Oct 04, 2015 6:27 am

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The kill was blocked N3 I believe.

I think it's also possible she roleblocked Salamence N3? It can't be proven either way though.

Are vig's notified if they are roleblocked?
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Post Post #4092 (ISO) » Sun Oct 04, 2015 6:27 am

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In post 4087, Sakura Hana wrote:
In post 4085, Echo Echo wrote:Did you just... did you just quote a Salamence post that literally damned you?!

No, it shows that i had no reason to bus fire? he was already being townread along with Shazam.


Did you just include Shazam in that sentence? Isn't that an interesting point of view, LOL.
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Post Post #4093 (ISO) » Sun Oct 04, 2015 6:27 am

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In post 4083, DrippingGoofball wrote:What night was the kill blocked?

I targeted firebringer N3 with a tracker and got the result of visiting shiro.
Salamence had shot Firebringer N3 and he didn't die.
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Post Post #4094 (ISO) » Sun Oct 04, 2015 6:27 am

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Usually not.
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Post Post #4095 (ISO) » Sun Oct 04, 2015 6:28 am

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In post 4092, DrippingGoofball wrote:Did you just include Shazam in that sentence? Isn't that an interesting point of view, LOL.

Exactly, if im scum with those 2, why would i even bother doing that.
Do note that also as soon as i outed my guilty people associated shazam to firebringer, that'd be suicide.
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Post Post #4096 (ISO) » Sun Oct 04, 2015 6:29 am

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In post 4095, Sakura Hana wrote:shazam to firebringer


Why?
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Post Post #4097 (ISO) » Sun Oct 04, 2015 6:29 am

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In post 4091, Spiffeh wrote:Are vig's notified if they are roleblocked?

Depends on whether their shots are spent or not on roleblock, pie's last game (Saki) refunded everyone's limited shots when the global roleblock was used, dunno how he would treat that here.
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Post Post #4098 (ISO) » Sun Oct 04, 2015 6:29 am

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In post 4096, DrippingGoofball wrote:
In post 4095, Sakura Hana wrote:shazam to firebringer


Why?

I don't remember lemme look back at those posts
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