NY 189 - Flower Viewing Festival [~fin~]

Sakura Hana · Post Post #4000 (ISO) » Sat Oct 03, 2015 4:27 pm

In post 3996, Echo Echo wrote:Okay, that was unexpected. I legitimately did not think that Shazam was scum. Lol.

Yet you voted him...
What.
That doesn't make sense

Spiffeh · Post Post #4001 (ISO) » Sat Oct 03, 2015 4:34 pm

Damn it Echo I'm leaning towards voting out Sakura and you say scummy shit like that.

Echo Echo · Post Post #4002 (ISO) » Sat Oct 03, 2015 4:37 pm

How is it scummy?

Echo Echo · Post Post #4003 (ISO) » Sat Oct 03, 2015 4:38 pm

I think that I should be essentially clear for wasting 2x2 = 4 hours of my time for making VCA that turned out wrong, right? What scum does that?

Sakura Hana · Post Post #4004 (ISO) » Sat Oct 03, 2015 4:40 pm

I think he's just wanting to dissasociate himself from Shazam.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #4005 (ISO) » Sat Oct 03, 2015 4:40 pm

Obviously scum is between either of you cross-voters, and I will say, since you made it this far as scum, one of you played an excellent town game.

Spiffeh · Post Post #4006 (ISO) » Sat Oct 03, 2015 4:41 pm

Eh nevermind you were pretty consistently doubting Shazam scum yesterday so there's nothing really bad about it.

Anyway yeah I'm leaning towards voting Sakura I'm gonna type up some thoughts soon.

Echo Echo · Post Post #4007 (ISO) » Sat Oct 03, 2015 4:41 pm

I think you're scum, and obviously so.

Echo Echo · Post Post #4008 (ISO) » Sat Oct 03, 2015 4:42 pm

I was legitimately town leaning Shazam. What pushed me to vote him was the effects of Spiffeh, Bearbert's dead words, and his really terrible vote on me.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #4009 (ISO) » Sat Oct 03, 2015 4:57 pm

Firebringer

(7) -

Sakura Hana

, AxleGreaser, Davsto, Ricastle, Bearbert D, Vedith, DrippingGoofball
Bearbert D (1) -

Firebringer

DrippingGoofball (1) -

Shazam

Davsto (1) -

Echo Echo

Did scum Sakura come up with a guilty on FB, and none of her buddies followed through with a vote?

Or did town Sakura come up with a guilty on FB, and all the scum decided to shun the wagon?

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #4010 (ISO) » Sat Oct 03, 2015 4:58 pm

Davsto (5) - ika, AxleGreaser, Spiffeh,

Sakura Hana

, Davsto
ika (2) -

Shazam

,

Echo Echo

Did all the scum stay off the Davsto wagon? Both wagons were on town...

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #4011 (ISO) » Sat Oct 03, 2015 5:00 pm

I Am Innocent (7) - Ricastle, Bearbert D, Vedith,

Sakura Hana

, Spiffeh, Shiro, BananaCucho
Davsto (2) - Slandaar, AxleGreaser

Echo Echo

(2) - Davsto, Flubbernugget
Vedith (2) - MarioManiac4,

tn5421

(1) - DrippingGoofball
Spiffeh (1) - Firebringer
AxleGreaser (1) -

Echo Echo

Ricastle (1) - I Am Innocent
DrippingGoofball (1) -

Shazam

Did ALL the scum shun the IAI wagon, or is there one Sakurascum on it?

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #4012 (ISO) » Sat Oct 03, 2015 5:03 pm

MarioManiac4 (10) - Davsto, Slandaar, Shiro,

Sakura Hana

, BananaCucho,

Shazam

, Vedith, Ricastle, Spiffeh, Bearbert D
Davsto (4) -

Echo Echo

, DrippingGoofball, I Am Innocent, MarioManiac4
I Am Innocent (2) - AxleGreaser, Flubbernugget
Vedith (1) -

tn5421

Spiffeh (1) -

Firebringer

Is there only one scum on the 10-people MM4 wagon, or two?

Spiffeh · Post Post #4013 (ISO) » Sat Oct 03, 2015 5:05 pm

In post 4009, DrippingGoofball wrote:
Firebringer
(7) -
Sakura Hana
, AxleGreaser, Davsto, Ricastle, Bearbert D, Vedith, DrippingGoofball
Bearbert D (1) -
Firebringer

DrippingGoofball (1) -
Shazam

Davsto (1) -
Echo Echo

Did scum Sakura come up with a guilty on FB, and none of her buddies followed through with a vote?

Or did town Sakura come up with a guilty on FB, and all the scum decided to shun the wagon?

Well FB wasn't gonna vote himself, and Shazam didn't post again after Sakura outed her guilty.

Sakura Hana · Post Post #4014 (ISO) » Sat Oct 03, 2015 5:08 pm

In post 4010, DrippingGoofball wrote:
Davsto (5) - ika, AxleGreaser, Spiffeh,
Sakura Hana
, Davsto
ika (2) -
Shazam
,
Echo Echo

Did all the scum stay off the Davsto wagon? Both wagons were on town...

Echo jumped off the wagon at the last minute tho.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #4015 (ISO) » Sat Oct 03, 2015 5:21 pm

In post 4014, Sakura Hana wrote:
In post 4010, DrippingGoofball wrote:
Davsto (5) - ika, AxleGreaser, Spiffeh,
Sakura Hana
, Davsto
ika (2) -
Shazam
,
Echo Echo

Did all the scum stay off the Davsto wagon? Both wagons were on town...

Echo jumped off the wagon at the last minute tho.

Onto what?

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #4016 (ISO) » Sat Oct 03, 2015 5:22 pm

In post 4013, Spiffeh wrote:
In post 4009, DrippingGoofball wrote:
Firebringer
(7) -
Sakura Hana
, AxleGreaser, Davsto, Ricastle, Bearbert D, Vedith, DrippingGoofball
Bearbert D (1) -
Firebringer

DrippingGoofball (1) -
Shazam

Davsto (1) -
Echo Echo

Did scum Sakura come up with a guilty on FB, and none of her buddies followed through with a vote?

Or did town Sakura come up with a guilty on FB, and all the scum decided to shun the wagon?

Well FB wasn't gonna vote himself, and Shazam didn't post again after Sakura outed her guilty.

I accept this explanation.

Sakura Hana · Post Post #4017 (ISO) » Sat Oct 03, 2015 5:23 pm

In post 4015, DrippingGoofball wrote:Onto what?

Onto ika

Sakura Hana · Post Post #4018 (ISO) » Sat Oct 03, 2015 5:24 pm

Echo was voting Davsto then near the end of the day he jumped off onto ika, this is when ika counterclaimed Mason.

Spiffeh · Post Post #4019 (ISO) » Sat Oct 03, 2015 5:27 pm

One thing against Sakura that I'm finding it really difficult to overlook is the way she went about her guilty. I know at that point in time she seemed to be growing frustrated with the game and that people weren't listening to her. That may have been true, but I believe if this was town Sakura she would take the easy (and smarter) way out by just claiming her guilty outright. Especially with her BPV to keep her alive.

The way she and Shazam had condensed onto Echo yesterday spooks me as well. Also, Shazam's opening post yesterday looked like Echo was his preferred lynch target and he only threw in Sakura as an after thought in case it went her way.

I also felt tn's interactions with Echo don't seem to come from the same scum team:

In post 1634, tn5421 wrote:
In post 1486, Echo Echo wrote:The Mario wagon was an unfortunate event. He dug his own grave. Looking at the wagon formation, I conclude that the wagon was actually comprised of mostly town. It would be daft to blindly look at it by VCA and say "There's at least 2 scum on the wagon". I don't doubt that there are scum on the wagon, but this takes more careful analysis instead of blind dart throwing. It would be difficult to differentiate between the scum who hopped on, and town who hopped on.

In the whole process, I severely disliked TN's posts. His approach to the game was poor, and the reasoning for his votes were detestable at best. So far, he has provided little in content, and has resulted to abrasive, snarky responses when called out. His method of flailing seems to include intimidation tactics, which objectively has a scum utility, regardless if whether the issue is play style.

I'll catch up on Day 2 later, but my lynchpool remains unchanged from yesterday: TN or Davesto. I'm not very inclined for lynching IaI.

Ok, and? You've basically spammed all game and have what, 20 posts worth of content at best? Hypocrite.

In post 1652, tn5421 wrote:
In post 1650, Echo Echo wrote:I might be wrong about Davesto, given his long post explaining his tn scumread. A+ for effort.

You seem to think that I give a shit about your opinion.

You would be wrong.

Additionally, I still don't see a scum Echo claiming mason like that. I don't see him and Shazam coming up with the elaborate plan Axle thought up to get ika outed and still come off scot free. Actually, the scum would have known who the mason was if Echo was scum and they were paying attention. It seemed pretty obvious through Ricastle's reads that it could only be ika or Echo and if Echo is scum he knows it's ika already. Why take that unnecessary risk?

However, I'm also struggling to see why scum Sakura fakes a guilty on her teammate in that situation in the first place. And Sakura has behaved super town-like for the entire game despite the things I've mentioned above. Echo's jump off of Davsto and onto ika did strike me as weird but he did have the explanation of trying to draw the mason kill so ???

But I still think Sakura is the vote for today given the other evidence against her.

@DGB thoughts? And @Sakura @Echo responses?

Sakura Hana · Post Post #4020 (ISO) » Sat Oct 03, 2015 5:30 pm

I already said that i fucked up, i didn't think it through at the time, i'm not sure exactly why i did what i did, i just wanted firebringer lynched and no one was following suit orz

Echo Echo · Post Post #4021 (ISO) » Sat Oct 03, 2015 5:36 pm

Then claim the guilty. You claimed that you were bulletproof, there was no reason

not to

. Even if you were afraid of a roleblocker, you were a claimed one-shot tracker, and them roleblocking you wouldn't matter much at all.

It seems like a pre-ordained bus plan that Firebringer agreed to in the scumteam, but the acting at the point which Spiffeh had pointed out wasn't quite natural.

Spiffeh · Post Post #4022 (ISO) » Sat Oct 03, 2015 5:37 pm

And you both think DGB scum is off the table?

Echo Echo · Post Post #4023 (ISO) » Sat Oct 03, 2015 5:38 pm

> I have a confirmed 100% scum guilty on a player. I'm trying to get him lynched without outing my guilty. Oh, and I'm a bulletproof.

>Nobody wants to sheep my poorly made push.

Do I:

A) Yell louder and force everyone to sheep me
B) Claim the guilty and force everyone to sheep me
C) Give up and sheep someone else, forgetting not to sheep my guilty at the same time.

Echo Echo · Post Post #4024 (ISO) » Sat Oct 03, 2015 5:39 pm

In post 4022, Spiffeh wrote:And you both think DGB scum is off the table?

Her performance yesterday; off the table.

Incidentally I'm having a bit of paranoia on you, but there's no point in that. Occam's razor states that Sakura is the final member of the scumteam.