OK, watch me break down your broken down logic .Shteven wrote:See my above post, which I wrote at the same time as you wrote yours, so it's not a reply, but rather, some more arguments against you in connection with Glork/TCS.Guardian wrote:Shteven, you basically are saying the following:
"there is almost no way Guardian is team scum. however, I think he is lying about being the doctor.... but there was a doctor protection last night -- and Guardian was a likely target.
So... Guardian could be the SK!"
Why do you want to come up with a reason to vote me so badly? What are your reasons besides OMGUS? What, if any, case do you have on me for being an SK?
I do think you have a decent chance of being mafia. I would put you after Glork and TCS, however. The specific reason why you could be SK is exactly what you posted in your post, trying to say it wasn't a reason. ItISa reason. Let me break down the exact logic:
Agreed.FACT: There was only one night kill. It's entirely possible that the mafia submitted a no-kill, but I am considering this extremely unlikely. Therefore:
Assumed: the doctor protected the person the mafia targetted. I'd say this is at least 90% probable.
This assumes there is another doctor and is still not true -- MBL is the "most likely" doctor protection as I am a doctor and protected him.Assumption: Guardian is the most likely target for doctor protection, being our only claimed power role. This can't be proven, but I'd say it's likely.
Wait what? There are still just as many doctors before I claimed as after I claimed in the game if I'm not a doctor. Assuming I fake claimed, my fake claiming doesn't suddenly remove doctors. This doesn't make sense.Corollary: the chances of their being another doctor in the game to protect guardian INCREASES if guardian lied about his claim. He then wouldn't be using one of the possible doctor slots. However, it's possible there are two doctors. However, this is an increased chance of being Anti-Town.
You ASSUME IN THE CONCLUSION THAT I AM ANTI-TOWN.Conclusion: If guardian was mafia-targeted, then he is not mafia,but is Anti-Town, so he is the SK.
I asked what scummy tells you have on me that don't rely on interactions with the mafia -- and you haven't produced any. Your argument results in either a) I am the doc and protected OR b) I was targeted for NK and was protected.
Neither of those makes me an SK. I usually hate to ad-hom as town, as it doesn't convince people, but for the love of goodness you and ManaSpryte are idiots, and both of you are OMGUSing me. You are trying to push a case against me beyond all reason.
Aside from me hammering Sarcastro, this still doesn't make sense with the above assumptions. If I am mafia (unless I No Killed, which you disregarded in the above) then some other doctor protected someone else. But you say I am the most likely person to have been protected. So you are trying to have it both ways. You are basically trying to reason however you can into whatever convoluted scenario you can that would somehow, some way end up with me being scum.You still have a chance to be mafia, because the above logical argument involves assumptions that you were targeted by the mafia and protected by another doctor.
I dismissed it because it is bullshit.P.S. This is exactly what I had posted previously, which you quoted and dismissed without ever understanding.
BTW, you said earlier I've been on you all game -- not true at all. I have been pushing a case on you all of today, and that's about it. Before this I've voted you, but never pushed a case on you.
TCS, I'm going to be completely honest -- I am not sure whether you lying low or posting more is more likely to result in me voting for you.
For what its worth though, I trust Mana & Shteven's reads on this game about 0, so their votes on you aren't going to influence me one way or the other -- if they are voting you and you're scum, basically we get lucky.
Also, for what its worth, the town has never won a game I've been lynched in either . The town has in fact never won a game I've been in, as I always get mislynched at endgame -- a scenario that comrade Shteven is trying to nicely to set up....