Mini 442 - Beast Wars Mafia Game Over

[Lowell]

You think I'm "neutral"? What the hell?

Man, I can't help but feel slightly emasculated by that...

[Albert B. Rampage]

You think I'm "neutral"? What the hell?

Man, I can't help but feel slightly emasculated by that...

I could see you as a Lowell-scum atm, especially with you're "rival bandwagon" so close to deadline....

[Lowell]

Like I said, all just for fun!

[Dusk]

I feel so moronic. Sweeny was highest on my Townie list... I have to go back and rethink this.

I love it when the SK or the Mafia pick each other of early. I actually feel this is a storke of luck to make up for our no Lynch. There may not even be another Vok Mafioso.

If the Doc and two Mafiosos are dead, maybe it'd be a good idea for the Cop to help us out now, if we have one. IF there were for some reason 3 Mafiosos and a SK in this game that leave a 2/3 Town.

FoS: Jordan

You just didn't RB anyone? With a Doc gone, what were you afraid of? You also didn't RB who you said you would the night previously if I remember correctly. I'll have to do a thorough read through later.

Off to class!

[Albert B. Rampage]

He roleblocked TG, if that's what you mean.

[Dusk]

A few questions Jordan
Why didn't you block Lowell if you thought he was scum?
Why did you chose STD to block last night?

During the night, the more I thought about it, the more scummy StD seemed to me, he attacked me and called me "certain scum", which seemed to me like picking a convenient target. He also attacked Ryan but said he was town, and oddly enough, gave the same treatment to Lowell, who I thought at the time was scum, he even said, he was low on the pro-town list, but still thought he was town without explaining, I was thinking of a Lowell-StD scumteam there, and I was thinking that they'd send StD to do the kill because of how much I attacked Lowell during the day. Now of course, the block obviously didn't work, and I'm now confident Lowell isn't scum, so I've also lost one of the main reasons why StD was scum as well because of that, so StD has gone up the pro-town list too, though not as much as Lowell.

Why did you chose to revel this information now? If STD is scum maybe you could have caught him in a lie.

I actually never thought of this, I'll remember for next time.

No I'm talking about that, Albert. He claimed to block StD, and if this is true it didn't stop a kill. But he had said his suspicions were Lowell.

The discrepensies, however convincing the defenses in response by Jordan, are starting to add up. Yet, I'd like to hear about his play last night to be sure.

[Albert B. Rampage]

I think it makes sense for him to be a role-blocker. There was a vig, a doc and a SK. There's bound to be a roleblocker to block all this mess.

[Lowell]

Okay so we have one scum and one SK left. Fair enough.

I'm going to claim, if only because any scum paying any attention at all will have figured it out, and all should have the same information.

I'm STDs mason buddy.

I apologize to any town powerrole for helping narrow the field of people to hide behind, but I don't honestly think that any scumplayer wouldn't have figured out my role after last night. Really, I'm just coming out so that lazy-ass townies can be up to speed too. So yeah, whatever. Carry on.

[JordanA24]

Fair enough, seems to make sense looking back.

[Aimee]

Should have a response by Monday or Tuesday.

[=Confused=]

Have read back though day two, I'm very much looking forward to Aimee's post. Her analysis of various players was good, but she seemed to take so long to post them all and in the face of the deadline that's not good. She found a lot of us pro town and saved her vote for TG, who she found the most scummy until the very end of the day. I don't get it. It was either extreme limited access or scummy play.

Not sure how I could have missed that Jordan blocked TG last night, I also thought he said he didn't block anyone. Doesn't that change things? I mean with Sweeny killed last night and TG being blocked, wouldn't that mean the kill wouldn't have gone though if TG was the last mafia member? I'm not sure how the order of night actions is processed... does it differ game from game? Could Sweeny have killed before being killed?

[JordanA24]

Could Sweeny have killed before being killed?

I assume that's what happened, provided of course that TG is in fact the last scum.

[Aimee]

Fraggle Thoughts:

Confused = Not around.
ABR = Difficult to get actual thoughts since he faked his restriction, but he seems rather obviously against him, because of his voting habits.
Dusk = Non-committal attitude revolving around the "he`s not scum" but then voting for him issue.
Jordan = Negative, but not so much as others.
Lowell = Anti-Fraggle.

Sweeny Thoughts:

Confused = He was relatively low on her suspicion list, but she says nothing else.
ABR = In one post, says he is suspicious because he is unreadable, but later calls him the most overwhelmingly pro-town. Could be judged as distancing.
Dusk = Considered him incredibly pro-town.
Jordan = No clear cut opinion, but it seems that he doubted Sweeny`s suspicion against me, therefore likely didn`t think of him as so pro-town as others.
Lowell = Didn`t find him confirmed but said he was unlikely to be scum.


TG Thoughts:

Confused = Has notably has been against him since her arrival.
ABR = Calls him pro-town early in Day 2, then he moves to the middle of his suspicion list, but later asks why TG scum is still alive, implying he thinks he is scummy.
Dusk = Seems anti-TG, but doesn`t give an OMG clear cut opinion as far as I can see.
Lowell = Anti-TG.

Let`s look at some of the more interesting ones. Dusk seemed probably the most for Fraggle, although she was more non-committal than pro-Fraggle. Dusk was the most pro-Sweeny in the game. Dusk hasn`t given a hugely clear opinion on TG, and therefore could be riding the bandwagon. Sweeny considered Dusk to be the most pro-town of all.

FOS: Dusk

, I`m not liking the relationship I`m seeing here.

Also suspicion to Confused after the way Sweeny and Confused ignored each other all of yesterday, putting each other in low-neutral positions on each others`scum listings.

Also suspicion to ABR for his Sweeny and TG thoughts. I don`t like the way he accuses me of a relationship with Sweeny, when evidently Confused and Dusk are far more guilty.

[=Confused=]

Also suspicion to Confused after the way Sweeny and Confused ignored each other all of yesterday, putting each other in low-neutral positions on each others`scum listings.

While this is technically true. it's also a slight misrepresentation of what actually happened yesterday.

It's true that I put Sweeny low down in my suspicions but I would hardly say I ignored him. He posted all of twice since I replaced so he just wasn't around in the game when I was. I called for prods on him and wanted contribution but I could hardly talk about him when he wasn't posting anything could I?

[Aimee]

Also suspicion to Confused after the way Sweeny and Confused ignored each other all of yesterday, putting each other in low-neutral positions on each others`scum listings.

While this is technically true. it's also a slight misrepresentation of what actually happened yesterday.

It's true that I put Sweeny low down in my suspicions but I would hardly say I ignored him. He posted all of twice since I replaced so he just wasn't around in the game when I was. I called for prods on him and wanted contribution but I could hardly talk about him when he wasn't posting anything could I?

Oh I agree, but the very fact sweeny had nothing to say to you either is more telling. Although i agree it doesn`t have much indication on alignment.

Also, I really want others to post. I am, quite honestly, quite annoyed that only one person has posted since Monday, and again it seems that like yesterday my posts are keeping things going. And I have limited access. So, can everyone pick up the pace a bit, please?

[Dusk]

I have been trying to keep up and would like to post more in depthh, however classes just started for me. Aside from studying I've been fighting wih the moving company to get ALL my items back to the apartment, and trying to find research opportunities. Yes all is busy out in the world.

Hopefully I'll have time Friday. Til' then... let me just say I still have doubts on TG and I was one of the few commital people on the bandwagon, not someone just jumping on. I did mention the things that made me most suspcious of him and I weighed Albert and Confused's rundown of TG. Albert, after some questioning, didn't convince me. Confused's post did.

Furthermore, I was indeed the most pro-Sweeny, but also very clear on my reasons, which were all my own. I can't remember Sweeny giving a very specific and in-depth rundown of me, but if you feel we were buddying and this is the "relationship" you don't like, well vote me. But you've been so hesitant about voting me before, Aimee, I really wonder why this is the proverbial straw.

[chaotic_diablo]

skruffs replaces TrustGossip. Please welcome him.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Vote Skruffs

to keep the heat on him. Right now, I don't think Aimee is the correct lynch, but there are definitely inconsistencies in her actions. Lowell claimed mason, JordanA24 claimed role-blocker. I think we should leave them alone for now.

Dusk and confused I see as both pro-town...

so in the end I think Skruffs will get my vote. Might,

might

change to Aimee.

[Skruffs]

Hello everyone.
What is the situatoin?
Why is Albert voting me?
Guess I have to read...
in the meanwhile,

Vote : Albert

for trying to push a lynch on a replacee before they have a chance to get their bearings.

[Skruffs]

Jordan, obviously you are unable to quote your PM, but seeing as your role is a Predacon, does it indicate that you will win alongside the Maximals?

It says I win when all anti-town players are eliminated.

This is odd, and his win condition is not in the same format as my own is.
Maybe it's because he's a claimed power role.. or a predacon? Hmm.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Skruffs, post some analysis, or we will lynch you -_-

[JordanA24]

Jordan, obviously you are unable to quote your PM, but seeing as your role is a Predacon, does it indicate that you will win alongside the Maximals?

It says I win when all anti-town players are eliminated.

This is odd, and his win condition is not in the same format as my own is.
Maybe it's because he's a claimed power role.. or a predacon? Hmm.

I am a Predacon (Scorponok), but they aren't scum in this game.

Regarding my win condition, if you're saying it doesn't have the same wording as yours (that is assuming that you've got a protown win condition, which I don't) it obviously wouldn't, if I posted it word-for-word, I'd get modkilled.

[Dusk]

Jordan, do you perceive a difference between your win condition and the Maximal win condition? If so what do you make of it?

[JordanA24]

Nope, I think we're both protown.

[Skruffs]

(that is assuming that you've got a protown win condition, which I don't)

I was originally going to say that you yourself do not have a protown win condition, by your own admission, but then I realized that you COULD just be saying that you don't assume I have a protown win condition. But you have REALLY got to learn to phrase yourself better.

There is no "Vanilla Townie" PM on the first page, which is something I'm surprised hasn't been exploited yet. OR has it been? I don't know.
I do know that jordan claims his win condition involves players - mine doesn't. I won't get any further into it than that, but I think this is either a mistake on the mod's aprt or a bad claim by Jordan.

Albert, go suck on a doughnut. I don't respond well to blatant, baseless threats. What do you want me to analyze? I think I caught scum with my second post - why all the hostility?