Mini 1700: Space Mafia (Game Over)

Firebringer · Post Post #1125 (ISO) » Fri Aug 28, 2015 10:19 am

In post 1123, Doctor Vahlen wrote:
I would like to sub my main it. That's Titus.

Wait, your main is Titus? What?

Firebringer · Post Post #1126 (ISO) » Fri Aug 28, 2015 10:20 am

Is this some weird meta play so we don't see Doctor as scum? I am so lost on why they are doing this.

Garmr · Post Post #1127 (ISO) » Fri Aug 28, 2015 11:52 am

In post 1123, Doctor Vahlen wrote:
I would like to sub my main it. That's Titus.

I didn't know it was you lol

DeasVail · Post Post #1128 (ISO) » Fri Aug 28, 2015 1:06 pm

Getting caught up now right now!

DeasVail · Post Post #1129 (ISO) » Fri Aug 28, 2015 1:18 pm

In post 1051, Fraggernaut wrote:Yeah I was confused by the numbering system. I don't know why I thought last night was night three. I don't know.

@ Garmr How does it make Doctor conftown? Explain please.

@Victor Already said what I needed to say. I was wrong as was a few others. Moving on.

Fragger, why is there no unvote here?

Ok, and that's all I really have to comment on... Thank you everyone for not posting much.

DeasVail · Post Post #1130 (ISO) » Fri Aug 28, 2015 1:29 pm

Ok so where I stand at the moment is:

Havingfitz is still main scumread and who I have the most ~stuff~ on. Shaded kind of just fits in as PoE scum but I don't really have much reason for that. And then we have Fragger and Gray as sort of outside choices but they're less scummy to me.

So onto why Havingfitz is scum.

In addition to my reasons or suspecting GlassCannon, I think his play around the Scorp wagon yesterday was really sketchy and I suspect him even more now.

I'm still experiencing problems so my posting will still be brief, but the basics of it is that 847 was basically a bunch of excuses for not voting Scorp. Slandaar was right that pressuring him with perhaps the most vocally influential town players in Slandaar and me would have made more sense. And using my vote on Blocky against me I still have a pretty big problem with because that was obviously a right-before-deadline compromise. If he thought firebringer was so scummy surely he would have pointed out the fact that I was supporting the firebringer lynch that day? The vote on Scorpius only comes when he kind of really doesn't have an option and as I originally pointed out and then forgot, 997 doesn't make sense as a reason to attack Scorp in that context, so feels like a scumbuddy trying to compensate for their prior lack of any real suspicion on their buddy. And not too impressed today either. There's just a lot of useless almost 'trashtalk' posting on Fragger too. Like 1063 and 1105 seem really quite unnecessary.

Vote: Havingfitz

Firebringer · Post Post #1131 (ISO) » Fri Aug 28, 2015 1:51 pm

I had a town feel from Havinfitz before, I guess I should ISO him more. You definitely gave me something to think about Deas.

GrayFoxxxx · Post Post #1132 (ISO) » Sat Aug 29, 2015 2:56 am

Ok I'm here guys.

Garmr · Post Post #1133 (ISO) » Sat Aug 29, 2015 3:17 am

If your here post some thing useful

havingfitz · Post Post #1134 (ISO) » Sat Aug 29, 2015 5:47 am

Deasvail....look elsewhere. I think you're town so I'm not going to get all OMGUSy but the fact is...I do not bus as scum. I think in all my games I've only bussed once and the guy's lynch was inevitable. iirc I had Scorp as a suspect before Slandaar gave his results.

And the point of Slandaar's you're echoing about not following you and him has already been addressed, in yesterday's twilight. I was on a wagon with 2 other town reads as well. No reason to give you and Slandaar preference. Especially given both your reads were/are crap wrt to me and I've played with you before.

tl:dr; look elsewhere.

Fragger and Grayfox need to be the next two pushes for elimination.

Firebringer · Post Post #1135 (ISO) » Sat Aug 29, 2015 9:36 am

In post 1134, havingfitz wrote:Deasvail....look elsewhere. I think you're town so I'm not going to get all OMGUSy but the fact is..
.I do not bus as scum. I think in all my games I've only bussed once and the guy's lynch was inevitable.
iirc I had Scorp as a suspect before Slandaar gave his results.

And the point of Slandaar's you're echoing about not following you and him has already been addressed, in yesterday's twilight. I was on a wagon with 2 other town reads as well. No reason to give you and Slandaar preference. Especially given both your reads were/are crap wrt to me and I've played with you before.

tl:dr; look elsewhere.

Fragger and Grayfox need to be the next two pushes for elimination.

See the bolded part? That is what a scum would say when someone says they bussed a teammate.

The only times I have seen someone say "I don't bus my teammates" is when they are scum. Ive seen it in like 3 games. Never seen a town player claim they limit their scum plays. You do say you did once, but are you really saying that your scum play is predictable enough that you will limit your options in voting? What? No, that doesn't sound right.

VOTE: havingfitz

Fraggernaut · Post Post #1136 (ISO) » Sat Aug 29, 2015 6:05 pm

@Fire You seem awful worried about my one vote on you. Why is that? Outside of you reading me town ect.

@HavingFitz I already said I should be the lynch here cause otherwise the vigi shot is going to be a absolute waste. Tell us something we don't know.

Fraggernaut · Post Post #1137 (ISO) » Sat Aug 29, 2015 6:08 pm

Also to those who think I'm scummy. If I was so supicious going into the last night. Why didn't Slandaar visit me to see if I had visited anyone? Cause I'm nilla town & have no night actions.

Garmr · Post Post #1138 (ISO) » Sun Aug 30, 2015 11:51 am

In post 1137, Fraggernaut wrote:Also to those who think I'm scummy. If I was so supicious going into the last night. Why didn't Slandaar visit me to see if I had visited anyone? Cause I'm nilla town & have no night actions.

Why would slandaar cost you over a confirmed town /power role

Fraggernaut · Post Post #1139 (ISO) » Sun Aug 30, 2015 12:40 pm

In post 1138, Garmr wrote:
In post 1137, Fraggernaut wrote:Also to those who think I'm scummy. If I was so supicious going into the last night. Why didn't Slandaar visit me to see if I had visited anyone? Cause I'm nilla town & have no night actions.

If I was so supicious you would watch me to see if I visited.

Garmr · Post Post #1140 (ISO) » Sun Aug 30, 2015 12:52 pm

In post 1139, Fraggernaut wrote:
In post 1138, Garmr wrote:
In post 1137, Fraggernaut wrote:Also to those who think I'm scummy. If I was so supicious going into the last night. Why didn't Slandaar visit me to see if I had visited anyone? Cause I'm nilla town & have no night actions.

If I was so supicious you would watch me to see if I visited.

You're better off visiting the towniest player as scum are likely to pull off a night action on them over a player thats scummy

havingfitz · Post Post #1141 (ISO) » Sun Aug 30, 2015 2:27 pm

In post 1139, Fraggernaut wrote:
In post 1138, Garmr wrote:
In post 1137, Fraggernaut wrote:Also to those who think I'm scummy. If I was so supicious going into the last night. Why didn't Slandaar visit me to see if I had visited anyone? Cause I'm nilla town & have no night actions.

If I was so supicious you would watch me to see if I visited.

You seriously need to brush up on what a watcher is because you're just talking out of your arse at the moment.

havingfitz · Post Post #1142 (ISO) » Sun Aug 30, 2015 2:33 pm

In post 1135, Firebringer wrote:See the bolded part? That is what a scum would say when someone says they bussed a teammate.

The only times I have seen someone say "I don't bus my teammates" is when they are scum.

This isnt about you...it's about me. I've never said it before as scum.

What would you expect town to say?

Fraggernaut · Post Post #1143 (ISO) » Sun Aug 30, 2015 2:43 pm

I'm not very good yet at mechanical plays HavingFitz. Sorry I couldn't live up to your expectatons. Sheesh.

ShadedMelee · Post Post #1144 (ISO) » Sun Aug 30, 2015 7:48 pm

Victor is probably town.

Return to vote analysis:

Blocky Man (7) - Firebringer, Sword Master/Doctor Vahlen, Fraggernaut, Scorpious, yoloswag123/spicer/Shaded, DeasVail, Garmr
Scorpious (6) - Slandaar, DeasVail, Garmr, Firebringer, Glasscannon/havingfitz, Axwell/GrayFoxxxx

We should have at least one scum on Blocky Man. Maybe two. Scorp was there.
We probably have one or two scum on Scorpious after Slandaar announced his finding. I think just one.

Firebringer would fit in this if he voted Scorp after Slandaar's reveal. In fact he didn't. (Which i mistakenly thought he did at my first read)
Still a possibility if he interpreted Slandaar's crumbs early as a sign of PR but i consider it low probability.

That leaves {havingfitz, Grayfoxx} as suspects in my mind.

I agree this may be a scum slip:

In post 1134, havingfitz wrote:I do not bus as scum. I think in all my games I've only bussed once and the guy's lynch was inevitable

These look like teammate warning + distancing attempt

In post 997, havingfitz wrote:
In post 989, Scorpious wrote:VOTE: Slandaar

So you think scum have a watcher?

In post 1000, havingfitz wrote:
In post 999, Scorpious wrote:How can a watcher see two visits? I dont buy that,and if you do. I got some beachfront property in the Midwest to sell you..

How would a watcher only see one visit? It's what the role does.

It was clear frag did not understand what was going on at the time this post was made. So this looks like an easy mislynch search.

In post 1043, havingfitz wrote:VOTE: Fragger for a poor start to this day on top of previous suspicions.

Would vote Grayfox too.

I am ok with fitz going now.
VOTE: havingfitz

Firebringer · Post Post #1145 (ISO) » Sun Aug 30, 2015 9:24 pm

In post 1142, havingfitz wrote:
In post 1135, Firebringer wrote:See the bolded part? That is what a scum would say when someone says they bussed a teammate.

The only times I have seen someone say "I don't bus my teammates" is when they are scum.

This isnt about you...it's about me. I've never said it before as scum.

What would you expect town to say?

Not "I don't buss my teammates"
I don't say that as town. Maybe I would say that I don't do it often.
Saying that you don't do it sounds desperate attempt to discredit the bussing case on you.

Which I have seen other players do. I don't think I have seen a town player say that phrase.

Fraggernaut · Post Post #1146 (ISO) » Mon Aug 31, 2015 8:26 am

UNVOTE:

Garmr · Post Post #1147 (ISO) » Mon Aug 31, 2015 2:25 pm

I really don't mind shaded he replaced in a slot I like as well so ++ for him phone post

Titus · Post Post #1148 (ISO) » Mon Aug 31, 2015 2:27 pm

Mod seems to have forgotten about us, so I am just going to post from here.

Garmr · Post Post #1149 (ISO) » Mon Aug 31, 2015 3:45 pm

VC be nice