Three-Pronged Trouser God Mafia GAME OVER- Happy Ending?


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Post Post #1000 (ISO) » Mon Aug 17, 2015 1:44 pm

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I also don't like how he treated the Voided push. Picking out that one post that said "not sure whether this is scum or town" and calling it scum based on fencesitting is bad because 1) the tell itself is shitty, 2) that's not the only place someone has expressed being unsure about something, 3) the confidence level TiP expressed based on one phrase is seriously off, and 4) having that confidence level in a read that persisted for three days and then not putting a vote down on that suspect doesn't make sense coming from town.
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Post Post #1001 (ISO) » Mon Aug 17, 2015 1:52 pm

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In post 998, Titus wrote:Why would I detract from a wagon on scum that my townreads and I agree on to go push scumreads that I have been told are dumb? That would be shooting my toe to stop the pain from stubbing it. I said I would lynch MoF and I think I am the only one scumreading Gork.

MS hasn't done anything to improve their spot since their bullshit attempt to scumread Over soul. Gork's conversation with me has him as the weakest of the scumreads.

Yet, by your question, I can tell that no answer would satisfy you other than me unvoting TiP. My reads don't change unless some force causes them to change. You know this better than anyone. I don't see a need to rehash and be anti town by repeating the same arguments that have been rejected. You do.

What is your read on TiP by the way? You're doing a lot of chainsawing for him.


Null.
He's done nothing at all this game.
I'd expect better then nothing but he isn't the only player providing low to little content.

Here is what I dont get you seem to bitch to gork about his vote on you and not pushing other but you get uppity on me when I question your lack of push.
I'm very aware of your tunnel on players.
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Post Post #1002 (ISO) » Mon Aug 17, 2015 2:00 pm

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In post 1001, farside22 wrote:I'd expect better then nothing but he isn't the only player providing low to little content.

Who are the others?
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Post Post #1003 (ISO) » Mon Aug 17, 2015 2:08 pm

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Fresh, action Dan, Ika hydra, naked jogger.
Probably missing someone else but those are the ones I recall
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Post Post #1004 (ISO) » Mon Aug 17, 2015 2:27 pm

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Ika hydra is a great vote.

ActionDan normally is a low activity poster and actually hasn't done anything yet (TiP is not this low activity normally and he additionally has had the chance to respond to a wagon/is pushing a scum read).

Fresh has been V/LA.

Loran hasn't really done anything but his ISO doesn't make my dick hurt.

Can you see why I would vote TiP over most of these?
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Post Post #1005 (ISO) » Mon Aug 17, 2015 2:33 pm

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VOTE: voidedmafia
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Titus is town because I have experience with the whole "I'm always lynched D1 as town" stuff and this is basically a replica of what occurred
The others I didn't even know were in this game so I'll take a look at their isos if you want
Etc in this situation is used ironically, but I guess I could also talk about his egotism ("if I should read" reads as if the comment was directed at him), his dismissive attitude towards the post (ellipsis at the beginning), and his buzzword usage (flippant and tryingtoplaycool).
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Post Post #1006 (ISO) » Mon Aug 17, 2015 2:36 pm

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I'll respond to the other posts about me in a bit
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Post Post #1007 (ISO) » Mon Aug 17, 2015 2:36 pm

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In post 1005, TheIrishPope wrote:I could also talk about his egotism ("if I should read" reads as if the comment was directed at him), his dismissive attitude towards the post (ellipsis at the beginning), and his buzzword usage (flippant and tryingtoplaycool).

:igmeou:
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Post Post #1008 (ISO) » Mon Aug 17, 2015 2:37 pm

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How do you feel about Mara voting you?
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Post Post #1009 (ISO) » Mon Aug 17, 2015 2:44 pm

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Page 39 stuff
In post 963, Saint wrote:
In post 950, TheIrishPope wrote:Hello I'm around ask me questions

will you visit me tonight? it will help the town if i can clear a few people

Not yet. I have to wait.
In post 971, Titus wrote:
In post 952, TheIrishPope wrote:Too many players + too much shitposting going on to tell. Day 2/3 will be clearer. I still think Voided is scum, and also whoever said that using tells like I did indicate scumplay because that is obviously false


Any other reads, town reads? Who should be pressured further to get information? Why are you so passive?

As I said, the large amount of players right now makes it hard to draw strong reads. That's why Day 2 and Day 3 can be easier: flips and associative tells can be used, and less people will be around, making the shit sorting easy. I don't think pressuring anyone at this point is alright because scum can get the PRs and then we'd really be screwed. Let the PRs do their job N1 and then we can push for information. I'm being passive because that's my playstyle, so if you think it's alignment indicative you need to meta me harder.
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Post Post #1010 (ISO) » Mon Aug 17, 2015 2:52 pm

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In post 1005, TheIrishPope wrote:VOTE: voidedmafia
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Titus is town because I have experience with the whole "I'm always lynched D1 as town" stuff and this is basically a replica of what occurred
The others I didn't even know were in this game so I'll take a look at their isos if you want
Etc in this situation is used ironically, but I guess I could also talk about his egotism ("if I should read" reads as if the comment was directed at him), his dismissive attitude towards the post (ellipsis at the beginning), and his buzzword usage (flippant and tryingtoplaycool).

...Are you serious?

...You're serious...

Tammy, please tell me he's not serious.
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Post Post #1011 (ISO) » Mon Aug 17, 2015 3:19 pm

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In post 977, pisskop wrote:I looked through his games, and I
think
I saw a scumtell he popped.

In post 979, pisskop wrote:if he flips.

There is literally no town motivation to not drop this. If people agree with you, your scumread (me) would be lynched faster, and if people don't agree with you then you'd see you're wrong about your read on me. Holding on to information like this does not benefit town at all.
In post 984, Oversoul wrote:Sorry dude
Think you're town like that one game but :/

VOTE: TIP

What game? And if you think I'm town why would you vote me? Also, you need to elaborate why you're voting me.
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In post 952, TheIrishPope wrote:Too many players + too much shitposting going on to tell. Day 2/3 will be clearer. I still think Voided is scum, and also whoever said that using tells like I did indicate scumplay because that is obviously false

So why is the fact that I wasn't (and honestly still can't) tell the emotion behind that post scummy?

Can you rephrase?

In post 996, Imperium wrote:Public reminder that just because a lynch is easy doesn't mean a lynch is bad

In post 997, Imperium wrote:I don't know why I have to remind everyone of this but here's your friendly reminder anyways

Ok, but would you say that, in general, an easy lynch is a bad lynch?
In post 999, Imperium wrote:I don't like TiP's reaction to the wagon on him. As town, he has a tendency to complain/push back on wagons more than when he's scum because he doesn't really know how to respond as scum. I find it highly unlikely the only thing he has to say about votes forming on him is "yeah I don't like that one guy who said my scum tell was bad".

Man, this is so bad. That's not even true, I complain equally as scum and town. Also, I haven't played for like a year so things have changed.
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Post Post #1012 (ISO) » Mon Aug 17, 2015 3:19 pm

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In post 1010, Voidedmafia wrote:
In post 1005, TheIrishPope wrote:VOTE: voidedmafia
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Titus is town because I have experience with the whole "I'm always lynched D1 as town" stuff and this is basically a replica of what occurred
The others I didn't even know were in this game so I'll take a look at their isos if you want
Etc in this situation is used ironically, but I guess I could also talk about his egotism ("if I should read" reads as if the comment was directed at him), his dismissive attitude towards the post (ellipsis at the beginning), and his buzzword usage (flippant and tryingtoplaycool).

...Are you serious?

...You're serious...

Tammy, please tell me he's not serious.

I'm serious as water juice.
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Post Post #1013 (ISO) » Mon Aug 17, 2015 3:22 pm

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In post 1000, Imperium wrote:I also don't like how he treated the Voided push. Picking out that one post that said "not sure whether this is scum or town" and calling it scum based on fencesitting is bad because 1) the tell itself is shitty, 2) that's not the only place someone has expressed being unsure about something, 3) the confidence level TiP expressed based on one phrase is seriously off, and 4) having that confidence level in a read that persisted for three days and then not putting a vote down on that suspect doesn't make sense coming from town.

I wouldn't say the tell is shitty because I do it all the time, but I actually agree with your other three points. Does it make me scum?
In post 1007, Imperium wrote:
In post 1005, TheIrishPope wrote:I could also talk about his egotism ("if I should read" reads as if the comment was directed at him), his dismissive attitude towards the post (ellipsis at the beginning), and his buzzword usage (flippant and tryingtoplaycool).

:igmeou:

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In post 1008, Imperium wrote:How do you feel about Mara voting you?

Didn't know she was voting me. Someone had actually told me that she left the site. This means she's scum, because Mara reads me correctly 100% of the time.
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Post Post #1014 (ISO) » Mon Aug 17, 2015 4:19 pm

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vote: voidedmafia
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Post Post #1015 (ISO) » Mon Aug 17, 2015 4:19 pm

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don't like that reaction
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Post Post #1016 (ISO) » Mon Aug 17, 2015 4:31 pm

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Post Post #1017 (ISO) » Mon Aug 17, 2015 5:43 pm

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In post 1010, Voidedmafia wrote:...Are you serious?

...You're serious...

Tammy, please tell me he's not serious.

yeah he is, I'm sorry
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Post Post #1018 (ISO) » Mon Aug 17, 2015 5:44 pm

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In post 1013, TheIrishPope wrote:I wouldn't say the tell is shitty because I do it all the time, but I actually agree with your other three points. Does it make me scum?

I mean clearly I believe it makes you likelier than usual to be scum or else I wouldn't be voting you.
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Post Post #1019 (ISO) » Mon Aug 17, 2015 5:45 pm

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In post 1013, TheIrishPope wrote:Talk to me, baby. Don't talk about me.

Don't make cases like that ever again because reading that made my future son's penis about three inches smaller.
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Post Post #1020 (ISO) » Mon Aug 17, 2015 5:45 pm

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In post 1013, TheIrishPope wrote:Didn't know she was voting me. Someone had actually told me that she left the site. This means she's scum, because Mara reads me correctly 100% of the time.

then um
why are you still voting Voided?
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Post Post #1021 (ISO) » Mon Aug 17, 2015 5:50 pm

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VOTE: tip

JUST
THE
TIPPPPPP

@imperium - is that the tip that got lopped off?

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Post Post #1022 (ISO) » Mon Aug 17, 2015 5:58 pm

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Cuz Voided is maf too?
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Post Post #1023 (ISO) » Mon Aug 17, 2015 6:06 pm

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In post 1022, TheIrishPope wrote:Cuz Voided is maf too?

On one side, you have fencesitting as a tell (which is not a strong push for reasons you agree with).

On the other side, you have someone with a 100% record of reading you currently reading you wrong.

Which side seems stronger to you?
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Post Post #1024 (ISO) » Mon Aug 17, 2015 6:07 pm

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TiP, the problem is you're 100% sure on WN, yet you're not as sure on Voided. Why wouldn't you vote the slot you are more sure on given neither are major wagons and make a case?
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