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Post Post #4300 (ISO) » Sun Aug 16, 2015 2:45 am

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CLG has a pretty small road to getting into world via championship points. they need TSM to win today and Liquid to lose to TIP in the 3rd place matchup.

So really they need to actually win this thing.

With CLG's win, that means C9 will have to run the full gauntlet.
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Post Post #4301 (ISO) » Sun Aug 16, 2015 3:13 am

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finally watched the games from yesterday. hard to believe this is the same xmithie.
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Post Post #4302 (ISO) » Sun Aug 16, 2015 3:14 am

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In post 4300, zoraster wrote:CLG has a pretty small road to getting into world via championship points. they need TSM to win today and Liquid to lose to TIP in the 3rd place matchup.

So really they need to actually win this thing.

With CLG's win, that means C9 will have to run the full gauntlet.

What do they do if two teams have the same points?
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Post Post #4303 (ISO) » Sun Aug 16, 2015 3:15 am

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In post 4299, animorpherv1 wrote:
In post 4298, BROseidon wrote:Which is unlikely, IMO. I think TL is just a stronger team.


I've personally learned to never underestimate playoffs TSM. They always manage to find feats of utter bullshit.nd pull it off.

And I don't even like TSM.


Playoffs TSM always show up, but I still think Liquid has the advantage because:

1) TL has had an extra week to prepare (assuming they spent the week before GV/TSM prepping 50-50 for each, or they spent it doing more general prep)
2) TSM already had to bring out a specific strategy vs. GV. TL knows that TSM can run Olaf comps, so they're going to have something prepared for that (unlike GV, who likely didn't expect it at all)
3) TL still has stronger individual players.
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Post Post #4304 (ISO) » Sun Aug 16, 2015 3:15 am

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the team that performed better in the summer playoffs gets the higher seed i think.
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Post Post #4305 (ISO) » Sun Aug 16, 2015 3:17 am

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In post 4304, zoraster wrote:the team that performed better in the summer playoffs gets the higher seed i think.

By what metric? Advancing the farthest?
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Post Post #4306 (ISO) » Sun Aug 16, 2015 3:20 am

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whoever places highest. the only teams where that can't be told is 5th/6th.
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Post Post #4307 (ISO) » Sun Aug 16, 2015 3:24 am

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Zoraster is correct. In the case of a tie, summer placement wins out.

Not sure what they're doing about ROCCAT vs. Giants. While it doesnt really matter for number of matches they have to play in the gauntlet, higher seed gets side-pick advantage, so I'm not sure how they're dealing with that.
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Post Post #4308 (ISO) » Sun Aug 16, 2015 3:37 am

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Roccat are the higher seed in the playoffs, so maybe they'll get the side pick.
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Post Post #4309 (ISO) » Sun Aug 16, 2015 4:00 am

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In post 4303, BROseidon wrote:
In post 4299, animorpherv1 wrote:
In post 4298, BROseidon wrote:Which is unlikely, IMO. I think TL is just a stronger team.


I've personally learned to never underestimate playoffs TSM. They always manage to find feats of utter bullshit.nd pull it off.

And I don't even like TSM.


Playoffs TSM always show up, but I still think Liquid has the advantage because:

1) TL has had an extra week to prepare (assuming they spent the week before GV/TSM prepping 50-50 for each, or they spent it doing more general prep)
2) TSM already had to bring out a specific strategy vs. GV. TL knows that TSM can run Olaf comps, so they're going to have something prepared for that (unlike GV, who likely didn't expect it at all)
3) TL still has stronger individual players.


1) If you think TSM wasn't preparing for Team Liquid in the event they won, you're kidding yourself. Further than that, if you think TSM wasn't preparing for TL at least 50% of their time during the 2 week break, then you are underestimating their arrogance.
2) Who is to say TSM doesn't have another strategy, or even that TL can ban out TSM's strategies?
3) Bjergsen is better than Fenix(And the single best player in NA), Amazing is better than Dominate and Lustboy is better than Xpecial (Though that one is really close). TSM's weakness comes at ADC (Dyrus vs. Quas I think comes down to jungle pressure, and since I think Amazing is better than Dominate, we'll have to see how that plays out) and whether WildTurtle can do his job well enough to not lose the game or lose lanes to hard. Turtle does a good job at lane swaps (though I expect Lustboy has something to do with that) so we'll have to see.
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Post Post #4310 (ISO) » Sun Aug 16, 2015 4:01 am

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You mean Santorin...?
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Post Post #4311 (ISO) » Sun Aug 16, 2015 4:02 am

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I mean, Amazing might be a better jungler than Dom now, but he's not on TSM anymore. And idk if Santorin is better than Dom.
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Post Post #4312 (ISO) » Sun Aug 16, 2015 4:22 am

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Ooh, Riven AND Azir. And Sivir. Along with Shen and Elise, that's a lot of going in.

Btw, did anyone notice all the yellow klitchziness in the minutes leading up to the event?
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Post Post #4313 (ISO) » Sun Aug 16, 2015 4:24 am

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In post 4311, Voidedmafia wrote:I mean, Amazing might be a better jungler than Dom now, but he's not on TSM anymore. And idk if Santorin is better than Dom.


I meant Santorin, yes.

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Post Post #4314 (ISO) » Sun Aug 16, 2015 4:25 am

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I did
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Post Post #4315 (ISO) » Sun Aug 16, 2015 6:12 am

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Lol at saying Santorin is better than Dom.

Dom is #2 in NA. Santorin is 4 at best.
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Post Post #4316 (ISO) » Sun Aug 16, 2015 6:13 am

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Also you kind of just talked around 1 and 2.
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Post Post #4317 (ISO) » Sun Aug 16, 2015 6:31 am

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PENTAKILL! AND STILL PERFECT!

FNATIC! FNATIC! FNATIC!
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Post Post #4318 (ISO) » Sun Aug 16, 2015 6:34 am

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yeah no surprises there
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Post Post #4319 (ISO) » Sun Aug 16, 2015 6:47 am

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...Ohshit. I just realized I completely failed on the 3rd place matches and put CLG and Origin both to win their semi's and be in the 3rd place match...

THere goes my chance at winning...
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Post Post #4320 (ISO) » Sun Aug 16, 2015 7:08 am

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In post 4312, Voidedmafia wrote:Btw, did anyone notice all the yellow klitchziness in the minutes leading up to the event?

Anyone at all? It happened again at the 3:30 mark before TL vs. TSM...
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Post Post #4321 (ISO) » Sun Aug 16, 2015 7:11 am

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In post 4314, quadz08 wrote:I did
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Post Post #4322 (ISO) » Sun Aug 16, 2015 7:15 am

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Oh, I thought that was to the convo with BRO.

Any idea what it means? I half-believe it's something related to a new champion. Or rito's just playing with us.
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Post Post #4323 (ISO) » Sun Aug 16, 2015 7:23 am

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reddit thinks it's a new champ or skin
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Post Post #4324 (ISO) » Sun Aug 16, 2015 7:26 am

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In post 4323, quadz08 wrote:reddit thinks it's a new champ or skin

Hmm, maybe a new skin's more likely. I'm not gonna doubt the likelikehood that Riot has a new champ in the works, but I kinda expect such a champ to not be released until after Worlds. Or at least not be ready for pro play until after Worlds.
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