STEVEN UNIVERSE MAFIA - GAME OVER

[Sonic X]

Fuzzy's claim makes absolutely no fucking sense.

Has max claimed yet?

What PT?

Didn't he get cheated out of an alliance last night or something? Lololol

HYDRA LEAK

[NicCage]

Fuzzy's claim makes absolutely no fucking sense.

Does so.

[farside22]

If the choice is between max and fuzzy only I'd vote max.

[T S O]

Just vote one of them. Please. This game is dying.

[farside22]

I think max is at l1.

[Reasonably Rational]

Guys. Set up alliances for tonight before lynch. Like. Unvote if he's at l-1. We also need to resolve fuzzy if we're lynothing max. Plenty of time today still, should get a claim from max too before a hammer.

-Cerb

[TheFuzzylogic99]

Trench when did you role copMastin??? Are you saying that you and Marquis are role cop. Also do you need to aly to role cop someone?
Also answerd the question a few times already but I will answer again. Yes my I need to aly to use this power so I would have to be allies with Nic to use my power on him

[grapes]

Oh yeaaaaaa marquis was a conditional rolecop.

Weird.

[farside22]

Trench when did you role copMastin??? Are you saying that you and Marquis are role cop. Also do you need to aly to role cop someone?
Also answerd the question a few times already but I will answer again. Yes my I need to aly to use this power so I would have to be allies with Nic to use my power on him

I'd really like a response from trench about the Rolecop claim.

[mastin2]

I don't like Mastina.

In spite of the fact that I drove the Fro99er lynch

ridiculously

hard (I've posted a ton since Frogger's been lynched and yet I STILL think my Frogger push makes up at least half my iso) and basically begged you not to mislynch Replace-in.

Personally, I feel it's slow because certain people aren't sure whether to lynch Fuzzy or Max. They're BOTH scum, my dears.

Truth.

I mean, I'd

prefer

a Maxwell lynch, but I'm not exactly picky. Dead scum is dead scum.

I think max is at l1.

Nope, either L-2 or L-3.

[mastin2]

I'd really like a response from trench about the Rolecop claim.

My answer if Titus were playing solo: (Psst, that probably says something.)
My answer if TSO were playing solo: Eh, we've got plenty of similar/overlapping roles claimed already, and they can't

all

have one be town and the other scum. (Especially not when there are three instead of two; that'd mean an infinitely more likely probability of at least two town.)

Overall answer: though the answer interests me, I think that overall TW is more likely to be town than not given everything out there.

[farside22]

I'd really like a response from trench about the Rolecop claim.

My answer if Titus were playing solo: (Psst, that probably says something.)
My answer if TSO were playing solo: Eh, we've got plenty of similar/overlapping roles claimed already, and they can't

all

have one be town and the other scum. (Especially not when there are three instead of two; that'd mean an infinitely more likely probability of at least two town.)

Overall answer: though the answer interests me, I think that overall TW is more likely to be town than not given everything out there.

Overlapping?

I'm probably missing something because I'm tired right now but I don't recall players that hav claimed the same ability exactly,
What bothers me a bit is because froggers ability is that similar to an rb but more specific and often then others who are one shot.

[grapes]

Because it's (1) made up entirely of conftown (no, seriously, it is!), (2) who the majority of gained credibility by also pushing Fro99er, (3) and have made a good case against him.

I'd like to point out, though, that in spite of being "easier", it still hasn't actually

happened

yet. And not because we're taking our time; it's because there's resistance and counter-wagon attempts. It's just that scum counterwagons on town aren't going to work since, again, this is an L-2 wagon made up of people who're conftown.

Either scum are in the worst position imaginable and are just all rolling over, they're probably bussing like crazy....or fuzzy is the counter wagon to max? Those are all still possibilities here.

I'm not at the level of certainty of calling the wagon conftown driven... Buuuut I'm happy to ride this out because max is scum and with how little avenues scum have left to take I think yea, there could easily be bussing going on. Or I could be wrong on X, and the extreme paranoia I'm having about trench warfare could be misplaced.

Maybe the game really is THAT easy and pretty much solved. I dunno. Hope it is.

[farside22]

Max is at l-2

I'm sticking with who I have and if anyone wants to change or talk do so now.

[NicCage]

Cooldog hasn't really had a chance to weigh in yet, we shouldn't rush to lynch until we have our alliances and have heard at least a little from everyone

[Sonic X]

That kind of means he's scum

[Sonic X]

Scum lost once we managed to mega destroy frogger who is probably the scums best PR(?)

[mastin2]

Either scum are in the worst position imaginable and are just all rolling over, they're probably bussing like crazy....or fuzzy is the counter wagon to max? Those are all still possibilities here.

Bussing, not so much--if you look at the pattern here, it's pretty dang apparent that the scum are hardcore defending one another this game, at least for the most part. (There's a couple of players or so who could be scum that'd break the pattern, but I just so happen to not think they are.)

The first and the third, though, most definitely are, in spite of their conflicting nature. I think it's one of the two: both Maxwell and Fuzzy are scum, or Maxwell is scum and Fuzzy's the counterwagon to him. I just so happen to scumread Fuzzy, so the first seems the most likely, but the third is possible, which is mind you the reason I prefer the Maxwell wagon to the Fuzzy one.

Maybe the game really is THAT easy and pretty much solved. I dunno. Hope it is.

Believe me, I'd be ecstatic if the scumteam really was my pet theory. But we probably have at least one lurking in the shadows, alas.

[mastin2]

MaxwellPuckett (4):

grapes, Xtoxm, Sonic X, NicCage (-farside; -TW)

thefuzzylogic99 (3):

St Constantine the Hermit, grapes, Trench Warfare

CooLDoG (2):

MaxwellPuckett, farside22

mastin2 (1):

Thefuzzylogic99

Not Voting (4):

vezokpiraka, CooLDoG, Reasonably Rational, Mastin2

Max is at L-3. Not L-2.

I'm also wondering why vezok hasn't voted all day.

[mastin2]

Okay, correction.

Yeah sure. And I'm the whole beach city.

vite fuzzy

unvote

I don't like the crumbs. They are way too many of them.

So vezok did vote today...for a grand total of 45 minutes.

[mastin2]

Frogger was fucking pimped out, and I don't think all scum will be like that, so it makes it less likely that he was mass bussed.

Btw, this also explains why the Frogger lynch was so much harder: he was likely their strongest role. (I'm going back for tallying purposes; you'll see what I mean in a bit.)

Speaking of which, I should remind you some of the players who were pushing Fro99er consistently throughout the game. (Later, though. Busy now.)

[Trench Warfare]

I wonder why Mastina's so scared she has to attack me...hmm... My place is pretty obvious to anyone who knows all of my role. The fact is, you don't Mastina. You're fishing and trying to discredit the counter wagon to Maxwell. Just a few posts ago, you're all Fuzzy and Max are both scum and everyone voting is conftown.

Now when you don't get your way, you cry like a baby and rolefish. I will answer you if RR thinks its a good idea. Not a moment sooner.

Maxwell has every chance to claim, then we analyze.

[mastin2]

Maxwell voters: 6(+1) (grapes, NicCage, Trench Warfare, Xtoxm, farside22, Sonic X (+mastin2))
Fuzzy voters: 5(+3)(+1) (Sonic X, Vezokpiraka(x2), Trench Warfare, Constantine, grapes (+RR, mastin2, Xtoxm))
Xtoxm voters: 2(+4) (Trench Warfare, grapes (+Fuzzy, NicCage, MaxwellPuckett, farside22))
Cooldog voters: 3(+1) (NicCage, farside22, MaxwellPuckett (+Xtoxm))
Constantine Voters: 0(+2) ((+grapes, MaxwellPuckett))
Vezokpiraka voters: 0(+2) (mastin2, Trench Warfare)

System should be intuitive enough. The first number is the number of people who voted, and in what order.
The second is the people who have shown support for the lynch yet haven't voted, in approximate order.

So 6(+1) = 6 voters, with one extra expressing support. (The extra +1 is vezok's double-vote.)

[mastin2]

I wonder why Mastina's so scared she has to attack me.

If you think I ever know fear in a game of mafia you know absolutely

NOTHING

about me.

Period.

I never fear anything as scum, ever. Easily verifiable with a search of my MD material given that I advocate as scum

not being afraid

.
I fear next to nothing as town. My main fears involve getting reads wrong at critical times and/or on critical players, as defined by my mind. (Hint: you're not one of them, though your slot is, because I'm talking names like Nacho, zMuff, AP, and yes, TSO. Not you.) Also easily verifiable, with a simple search of MD. (In particular, I made a post about paranoia which is basically explaining this concept.)

That post was poking fun at you. The old joke, "Titus is scum, but her hydra partner is town." Which you very much should have known. It was nothing more. (Okay, maybe it was a

slight

jab, but...

P.S. TSO was right and I overruled him. I feel bad about that.

...No more a jab than your own acknowledgement of the fact.)

The fact is, you don't Mastina.

Well, I actually very well might.

You're fishing and trying to discredit the counter wagon to Maxwell.

A wagon that I'm supporting. And have been supporting. Yeah. Right.

Just a few posts ago, you're all Fuzzy and Max are both scum and everyone voting is conftown.

Everyone voting Maxwell. Votes on Fuzzy aren't ALL conftown, just MOST. (Constantine's a mere townread.)

[mastin2]

Fuzzy voters: 9 (Sonic X, Vezokpiraka(x2), Trench Warfare, Constantine, grapes +RR, mastin2, Xtoxm)
Maxwell voters: 7 (grapes, NicCage, Trench Warfare, Xtoxm, farside22, Sonic X +mastin2)
Xtoxm voters: 6 (Trench Warfare, grapes +Fuzzy, NicCage, MaxwellPuckett, farside22)
Cooldog voters: 4 (NicCage, farside22, MaxwellPuckett +Xtoxm)
Constantine Voters: (2) (grapes, MaxwellPuckett)
Vezokpiraka voters: (2) (mastin2, Trench Warfare)

Btw, looking at it this way: The Constantine interest doesn't look so great, the Vezok interest looks good, the Cooldog voters look okay but not great, the Xtoxm voters are not very good at all, the Maxwell wagon is made of win, and the Fuzzy wagon is fairly good.

I realize this is dealing with hypothetical votes, rather than materialistic votes, but I find the statistics interesting all the same. (Technically there's some on Sonic X and me as well, but I mainly focused the hypotheticals on 'wagons of interest'--that is, wagons that looked like they had the potential to actually gain support, which I ruled Sonic X and myself to not be, given the main pushers.)