Micro 507: Lazy Mod Mafia - Game Over

[BeardedCat]

I'm stating that the tunneling is old. you can't read me for shit, but you still continue to scum read me every game.

Just want to address this real quick; I don't scum read you as much as you think I do, I think you're misremembering (sounds like it shouldn't be a real word?). My main issue with you, and the cause of most of our problems, is the way you acquire reads and don't explain them. That is what we tend to argue about, it's not normally because I scum read you. Having said that, my reasons for scum reading you this game were entirely different to anything else I have previously said.

Having said all that, it doesn't matter because after reading game I think you're town.

Im suicidal night 1, so regardless of my alignment you wont deal with me past today, so w/e

I kind of want to let Sala live after this post.

Also BBT always scumreads me, this time hes wrong though

I do? I think we have played together once and I caught you as scum, no?

Way to tick me off.

I am seriously tunneling you now just for this restriction.

VOTE: prolapsed brain

Anyone else want to join me?

I'm no longer town reading Fire. This post is bad and it's an over-reaction to try and justify vote parking with weak reasons.

Join me on PB.

He must be die.

Do you have reasons for thinking he is scum?

Which makes me wonder why the hell you'd a) chose those modifiers on that role or even decide if a suicide was even a good idea, but thanks for the possible troll-sent-in-PM!

(tbh I kinda want to see this game ran as a mini or something, would be p coool)

This is such a good point though... why would Sala submit such an anti town role? Unless he was hoping to roll scum and it backfired and he rolled town?

1. Fuck BBT

That hurt. Like, really hurt.

I mean I really just want to lynch you on policy alone with how ANTI-TOWN THE ROLE IS.

Again, this ^^

accidently told the mod

You are aware, of course, that we were able to change our minds if we wanted to?

Again, this ^^

[BeardedCat]

Want to lynch Sala, ASP or Fire Today.

Fairly comfortable with everyone else being some degree of town.

~BBT (both posts)

[kyndy101]

I'm stating that the tunneling is old. you can't read me for shit, but you still continue to scum read me every game.

Just want to address this real quick; I don't scum read you as much as you think I do, I think you're misremembering (sounds like it shouldn't be a real word?). My main issue with you, and the cause of most of our problems, is the way you acquire reads and don't explain them. That is what we tend to argue about, it's not normally because I scum read you. Having said that, my reasons for scum reading you this game were entirely different to anything else I have previously said.

Having said all that, it doesn't matter because after reading game I think you're town.

Im suicidal night 1, so regardless of my alignment you wont deal with me past today, so w/e

I kind of want to let Sala live after this post.

Also BBT always scumreads me, this time hes wrong though

I do? I think we have played together once and I caught you as scum, no?

Way to tick me off.

I am seriously tunneling you now just for this restriction.

VOTE: prolapsed brain

Anyone else want to join me?

I'm no longer town reading Fire. This post is bad and it's an over-reaction to try and justify vote parking with weak reasons.

Join me on PB.

He must be die.

Do you have reasons for thinking he is scum?

Which makes me wonder why the hell you'd a) chose those modifiers on that role or even decide if a suicide was even a good idea, but thanks for the possible troll-sent-in-PM!

(tbh I kinda want to see this game ran as a mini or something, would be p coool)

This is such a good point though... why would Sala submit such an anti town role? Unless he was hoping to roll scum and it backfired and he rolled town?

1. Fuck BBT

That hurt. Like, really hurt.

I mean I really just want to lynch you on policy alone with how ANTI-TOWN THE ROLE IS.

Again, this ^^

accidently told the mod

You are aware, of course, that we were able to change our minds if we wanted to?

Again, this ^^

Maybe Sala sent in the role and the mod added suicidal?
That's what I think.

Or Sala is just trolling us to get off the lynchlist. Smart idea, except we'll lynch you tomorrow if you don't die tonight!
I agree with the read on fire. We thought he was newbtown but he refuted that with some mafia site I haven't heard of ( but I guess they have different rules as someone stated?)- so I'm pretty sure he's just either worse at being town than me or scum.
Reads list coming later (I have work)

[Firebringer]

I am amazed at how fast bearded cat flipped me from town to scum. All because I switched on to PB.

Is it the way I did it?

Or possibly because I am pressuring PB, implying some very small buddying going on.

[Who]

Maybe Sala sent in the role and the mod added suicidal?
That's what I think.

Has the mod done that to anyone else? Added something which just wasn't there?

Or Sala is just trolling us to get off the lynchlist. Smart idea, except we'll lynch you tomorrow if you don't die tonight!

The problem is that he might be scum and have some really really powerful role.

And personally I think that Firebringer's down to null. He could just be newbtown pissed that people are calling him newb. Or he could be scum pissed that people are calling him newb.

[Who]

The mod never said he would just add things other than details/context.

[Firebringer]

@Who

I don't think I have been called a newb until you just called me one.
So yeah your read doesn't make sense.

[Who]

@Who

I don't think I have been called a newb until you just called me one.
So yeah your read doesn't make sense.

Newb is a part of newbtown. Which you have been called a lot. I'm assuming you didn't take offense at the "town" part.

[Firebringer]

I don't take offense to insults that have no meaning.

Calling me newbtown has no meaning .

I am not new. Therefore why should I care or be insulted?

I was more annoyed by PB restriction vote than anything else.

[BeardedCat]

@Who

I don't think I have been called a newb until you just called me one.
So yeah your read doesn't make sense.

It happened a bunch of times:

Spoiler: quote stripes

Actually Fire is pretty new, so I kinda expect that reaction out of a

newbie.

Now to determine if that's a town or a scum reaction.

Firebringer, how much experience do you have with mafia?

<-- i don't ask this question if i don't think someone is a newb

firebringer

leaning

newbie

town on him, less sure than i am of kyndy but I liked mala's assessment of him.

<-- this townlean was conditional on the newb part

Is rather be called scum than newbie town. So insulting.

@firebringer site meta is different here than at sc2mafia so you're acting like someone who is new to the site.

I am amazed at how fast bearded cat flipped me from town to scum. All because I switched on to PB.

Is it the way I did it?

Or possibly because I am pressuring PB, implying some very small buddying going on.

so yeah, there was a lot of "let's give the newer player some benefit of the doubt" but if you're going to be insulted then we can just call you scum instead. But I still think there's a chance that you're mislynch bait instead of scum, it's hard to tell with players who are newer to the site because they're used to a different site meta where different things are considered scummy. Outright newbies are actually easier because if they've never been scum before, or never been town before then it's pretty obvious.

Maybe you'll be easier to sort once you have more posts. We're interested in ASP right now.

As for Prolapse, he's started scumhunting so I'd like to see him keeping doing that but I'm happy with him for now. Why do you think him voting to restrain you is scummy? Do you think using the restrain feature is scummy in general or only in this particular case? What do you think of the other restrain votes?

--Plotinus

[Malakittens]

Can we lynch Sala now?

[Salamence20]

Lynch me tomorrow if i am lying

[Firebringer]

Can we lynch Sala now?

No, we can wait on sala.

Lynch me tomorrow if i am lying

Don't shoot anyone yet!!!!

[Malakittens]

Okay I'm pretty sure that fire is partners with Sala. Hasnt grasped yet why Sala needs death unless he obeys being leashed.

[Malakittens]

Oh im pretty sure I won't be here tonight. Im sleeping over a friends house who I know doesn't have wifi.

[BeardedCat]

@Mala we're interested in Sala too but where we're at at the moment is that he can have 1 night to prove that he's really suicidal.

Though, actually, Sala, and i mean this in the least rolefishy way possible, but what's so important that you want to do in the upcoming night phase that you don't want to be lynched? Do you still want to vig gameplay? we could just lynch him later if he's scum?

pedit: hmm, I could see that.

--Plotinus

[Firebringer]

Okay I'm pretty sure that fire is partners with Sala. Hasnt grasped yet why Sala needs death unless he obeys being leashed.

Would I be as obvious to buddy and coach my ally day one? I guess to you I would.

[Malakittens]

Touchy. I never once called you a 'newb' persay. I just prior said your reaction is pretty good for someone with a younger join date than most players in this game.

Idk don't gI've me the 'I'm too scummy to be scum' excuse. Scum have coached and buddy, it's possible. But do you see why the only reason for Sala to live is if he promises not to shoot. I'm really Sure that's he's scum with a possible extra VIG shot or a super strong role, but I can tell you that the chances of him being town with a Vig shot is very low.

[Firebringer]

Touchy. I never once called you a 'newb' persay. I just prior said your reaction is pretty good for someone with a younger join date than most players in this game.

Idk don't gI've me the 'I'm too scummy to be scum' excuse. Scum have coached and buddy, it's possible. But do you see why the only reason for Sala to live is if he promises not to shoot. I'm really Sure that's he's scum with a possible extra VIG shot or a super strong role, but I can tell you that the chances of him being town with a Vig shot is very low.

Assuming that is true that he has extra shot, that makes the mafia pretty op in this. which should mean town has some equal power to match that.

I doubt his day 1 claim is false. Day 1 claims get you killed in my experience he is either trying to direct NK towards him, or he is what he says he is.

We could go with no lynch and ask him to shoot specific player to confirm the Vigo part.

[Malakittens]

Oh god I wish I wasn't mobile because I want to channell mollie really badly right now.

-channels-

(Insert a seat with a spotlight image here)

Have a seat. We gotta talk.

His role doesn't give any information at all.

The weak modifier is very similar to a hider (which is a variant of a cop). If weak targets scum he dies.

unless he's adding suicidial in. He means he dies anyways.

A VIg shot kills whoeever.

what im trying to tell you is he is 98% likely not to be a vig. He's lying about that.

Number crunch time!!

If we have two scum, one SK and rest town numbers are: 2:1:6 if there's no SK it's 2:7. (Most likely the later)

If we lynch town. Numbers probably go down to 2:1:5 or 2:6. If he dies and shoots town it goes down to 2:1:3 (this doesn't include the scum kill or SK mind you) or 2:4.

First scenario is a death wish. Second one is also.

His role is too ducking unbalanced to be true.

Make sense...?

[Malakittens]

So Sala you're either being lynched unless you want to tell me that what you claimed is bullshit and untrue. Or for some magically unreal reality that you were an unlucky dragon to get that role you don't use your shot and take one for the team.

Pick your poison.

[Salamence20]

Yeah because fakeclaiming this and gaining attention is how Im going to win this game as scum

[Malakittens]

Yet you're still fucking dodging.

[A Simple Plan]

Sorry guys, I've started going by my bookmarks due to the number of games, and I just realized I never bookmarked this one.

I don't take offense to insults that have no meaning.

Calling me newbtown has no meaning .

I am not new. Therefore why should I care or be insulted?

I was more annoyed by PB restriction vote than anything else.

Your playstyle suggest that you're still new to the site, despite not being new to the game in its entirety. The random discussions (anime?) and general lack of scum hunting suggest you're either unsure what you're doing, or trying to slide by as scum. Do you have a legitimate reason to vote PB?

P-Edit: What would we accomplish from a no-lynch and a vig kill? And another thought- why would it work now if it didn't work on Page 1?

Salamance isn't reading necessarily as scum right now, but he's definitely anti-town based on his role claim. If that's legitimately his role, I'm confused why he'd pick it, but I'm not going to say it's impossible or even improbable. However, I'm worried that he theoretically could be scum trying to survive the night because he's capable of doing something more deadly at night than normal.

I don't get whoever was saying Mala scum. I'm reading her town, and agree with her thoughts regarding Sala. I would agree to a lynch there today.

BC is town, though I'm not exactly a fan of the portion of one of their posts quoted in 89 by Who. It almost looks like leading, but I don't believe it to be certain.

[Prolapsed Brain]

@MOD:

What would be your process in case two players submitted the same role?