I thought I'd said something like this earlier, but I ahve felt volkan's arguments were stronger than your defenses. A few points you are correct on, such as Hermit's initial vote post saying he wanted oj gone. But the sum total seems to work against you.Elias_the_thief wrote:What part of my previous statements "In addition" and "This was my weakest reason" do you not understand? Despite all my posts on the subject, you still attack this reasoning as if it were the only rationale I used when determining my vote.gorckat wrote:You continue to say not looking bad is a reason not to vote someone you are suspicious of.Elias wrote:In addition, it would look bad to vote for him with the mounting Nelly wagon anyhow, so I voted Nelly.
Why is that? No one has once explained to me why it is bad for a townie to be consious of appearing protown. My record as town is 1-4, I'm always very concious of appearing town, since I do say badly at it usually. If this is your rationale for lynching me, you had better come up with some reason as to why trying to appear protown is a scummy play.gorckat wrote: After voting Nelly, you go round a little with xombie, then address Nelly's suspicions where you first said (as I've quoted before):I just don't like the whole 'avoiding scum tells despite suspicions is a good thing'. Townies should play fearlessly.Elias wrote:and if you turned up scum and I had in the heat of your wagon voted for him instead, it would have appeared that I was simply distracting from your wagon purposefully.
gorc:Trying to do pro-town things is fine. Not going after suspects because you might be called suspect yourself is what I find disagreeable. That you even considered, "Gee- they'll see this as scummy" is, well- scummy to me.
Extreme loss of temper? Reason doesnt work? I hardly call my anger extreme, and I consider it to be well warranted. I only namecalled once, and that was to call vollkan a dumbass over one point. Please do not go over my latest arguments and say "ZOMG! he name called, now i can disregard everything he says. Not once in that post did I abandon reason. How bout actually reading about how it wasnt a contradiction on my part? How bout addressing my arguments?gorckat wrote: The extreme loss of temper also doesn't ingratiate me. What you basically said is, 'Reason doesn't work, so let me name call.'
gorc: dumbass, idiotic accusatins, thickskulled, deaf ears are instances I considered namecalling, since they attack individuals (tangentially on the 2nd item).
Saying you have to get angry to get it through thick skulls seems like simple reason isn't working for you.
And now you vote for me. What are your reasons? You are simply jumping on because you can. First, you have not responded to any of my arguments, and let Vollkan do that work for you. Second, Vollkan hasnt even responded to my most recent proof that I didnt make a contradiction. Thus my first and most prominent reason for making my vote stands. I have no idea why I'm being voted by practically everyone. I want an explanation from Gorkcat and the hermit as to why theyre voting me.gorckat wrote:vote: Elias_the_thief
The exchange between Oman and volkan seemed to fast and natural to have been any kind of scum gambit.
Also, "practically everyone" sounds like "majority". You have 4 votes. Perhaps majority was not used literally by volkan when he said you 'followed the majority in voting Nelly'? Just noticed that, and trying to get out of work, so I'll leave that to someone else or myself for later.
