Open 28 - Quack Mafia. OVER! But who won? before 466

[Thesp]

Vote Count

d3sisted

- 3 (JordanA24, Stewie, curiouskarmadog)

curiouskarmadog

- 1 (d3sisted)

Mert

- 1 (Indy)

Battle Mage

- 1 (~N9V~)

Stewie

– 1 (Battle Mage)

Indy

– 1 (JDodge)

Not Voting

- 3 (scmp, Mert, Hjallti)

With 10 alive, it's 6 to lynch.

EDIT: Votecount fixed.

[Mert]

Loving d3sisted's entrance to the game - he seems to understand my reasons for suspecting CKD, who I still favour for lynching, of course.

[d3sisted]

Loving d3sisted's entrance to the game - he seems to understand my reasons for suspecting CKD, who I still favour for lynching, of course.

Then why don't you vote him?

MOD: You have CKD as voting for himself.

[Hjallti]

I think if you want to play 8 town against 3 scum, you should sign in for a normal mini.

Reason why we shouldn't protect (d3sisted): we can have 4 townies killed, while without protection it is 1. Indeed, but it is 1 for sure, with protection we can even get 0 kills.
Reasons to protect: we get info about quacks. We already stated that Dral should not protect this night:

d3sisted should not protect

. If afterwards 4 townies are dead we have positive evidence against scum.
On the other hand the likelihood of the 4 deads is very small, unless nobody protects double, so we might want to avoid that. I have no time to finish my argument but I will do later.

[d3sisted]

Your first point is a good one.

Consider CKD lurking; he was posting actively in other threads wednesday and thursday, but refused to respond in this thread.

[curiouskarmadog]

Your first point is a good one.

Consider CKD lurking; he was posting actively in other threads wednesday and thursday, but refused to respond in this thread.

you are ridicilous, those posts are a sentence or two..metagame if you need to...your last reply is so ridiculous that I need time (again) to comment...I just do not have that time at the moment..

[curiouskarmadog]

Again you are backtracking on your posts.

Again, if you have read the thread, you will see that WE HAVE ONLY HAD 3 ACTIVE POSTERS!!! The Mod just started seeking 2-4 replacements…that is mostly likely the reason there has been no hammer. Another reason might be the town can not choose who is scummier you are Mert.

Fine, I'll give you this one. I just like to post with the expectation that everyone in the thread is active, as they made that committment when signing up for a game. Then again, you're quick to call Protown on Mert, Indy, and Hjallti. How are you so sure?

read the damn thread

I have never called Indy or Hjallti protown..I have actually spent 4 pages calling Mert scum..which if you actually read the thread you would not only see that, but see that my vote was on him before I unvote and voted for you.

Take a moment to calm down for a second, then you’ll stop misconstruing my posts. I wasn’t referring to anything said in the thread, I was referring to what you directly responded to me with. You say there was no hammer because players (including a few of the mafia) have been inactive, hence my question: how can you be sure there aren’t already 1, 2, or 3 scums on Mert’s wagon? How can you be sure Mert himself isn’t mafia, which would attribute to the delayed hammering?

I did not misconstrue anything. You stated “Then again, you're quick to call Protown on Mert, Indy, and Hjallti. How are you so sure?” You say I insinuate somehow I think Mert is town, if you actually read this thread you would see that I think nothing of the kind. I THINK MERT IS MAFIA! This is no hammer because no one has been to –1…no one is at –1 because there is no one here to vote. I am tired fo doing all the logic work and reread for you. The votes that have been placed thus far were mainly tied between you and Mert. I think you are scum together and I think once the replacements get here and read the thread, they will think the same thing.

Reading the rest of your post…there is just nothing left to reply to..that I havent already siad many times.

I think Mert is Scum

I think you are scum.

I encourage EVERYONE to read our little exchange here before placing a vote. He has been doing nothing but making huge jumps in logic, displaying a expert handle on crap logic, or just plan lying.

The only real argument he has against me is that I did not protect Night 0 because I was afraid to kill a Doc….Which he is clearly stating he wants to do now. This is so ridiculous.

[curiouskarmadog]

Your first point is a good one.

Consider CKD lurking; he was posting actively in other threads wednesday and thursday, but refused to respond in this thread.

this is jsut another way he is stretching for anything..

I post 34 hours from this post and he is calling me a lurker in a game that people go weeks without posting...I am the most frrequent poster in this thread..

You keep filling your case with more and more crap. why is that?

[d3sisted]

Glad you decided to come out of lurkerdom.

Some more useless shit

You think Mert is scum? Fine.

You think I am scum? Baseless.

You chosen not to answer; my vote will stick.

Activity needs to pick up in this game.

Mod: Please prod where necessary.

[scmp]

Curiouskarmadog lives up to his name and is indeed rather curious.

Vote: curiouskarmadog

[curiouskarmadog]

Curiouskarmadog lives up to his name and is indeed rather curious.

Vote: curiouskarmadog

thats it?

[curiouskarmadog]

i guess no one is actually reading this thread.

[d3sisted]

Curiouskarmadog lives up to his name and is indeed rather curious.

Vote: curiouskarmadog

Not as curious as that vote, buddy.

Fos: SCMP

Mod: Don't let the thread die! D=

[Stewie]

i guess no one is actually reading this thread.

Well, I'm already voting for Desisted. Acording to the last vote count, you are voting for yourself, so you might want to replace your vote, rather than have the mod go back and fix it.

[d3sisted]

Stewie: Are you sure you're not voting for my predecessor? If so, care to bring up a separate case for me personally? And what do you think of the curious little exchange twixt me and CKD?

Still haven't gotten Dral's N0 protect yet, though I have a feeling it might be Fernando anyway... Call it a hunch...

I'm in the process of considering Mert as a possible scum. I'll see what I come up with. In the interim,

activity needs to pick up

.

[curiouskarmadog]

i guess no one is actually reading this thread.

Well, I'm already voting for Desisted. Acording to the last vote count, you are voting for yourself, so you might want to replace your vote, rather than have the mod go back and fix it.

sent a pm to the mod

[Hjallti]

Dral did protect Fernando or is scum and scum nightkilled fernando. Unless some other townie then Dral is lying as well! (I guess this is pretty simple logic from the fact that Fernando is dead) ((Can't imagine a townie is lying, but then again it could be, but two townies lying is pretty strange))

I find it strange that you want a 'seperate' case against you: for all in game comments you are the same as Dral and Ms. Piggy. You can't mindread them, so you can't explain why they did there scummy things, but the case against them, is the case against you. If they gave away they are scum, you have to fight the truth. If they played bad town, you have to convince us. WE DON'T NEED TO MAKE A NEW CASE! you need to advocate them and yourself. And at this point I am not impressed.

[d3sisted]

I beg to differ. Voting someone because their predecessors were scummy is scummy in mine eyes. Mainly because any previous evidence effectively becomes nullified, and you can't be bothered to come up with new reasons to support your vote.

[curiouskarmadog]

I beg to differ. Voting someone because their predecessors were scummy is scummy in mine eyes. Mainly because any previous evidence effectively becomes nullified, and you can't be bothered to come up with new reasons to support your vote.

so then if I was replaced, would you still pursue the player that filled my shoes?

[d3sisted]

Only and only if your replacement continues to emit the wrong vibes.

[JordanA24]

I'd like to see some more content from scmp please, the guy he replaced was on my scumlist.

[d3sisted]

Mod, if you're still here, we need a deadline.

[Hjallti]

I beg to differ. Voting someone because their predecessors were scummy is scummy in mine eyes. Mainly because any previous evidence effectively becomes nullified, and you can't be bothered to come up with new reasons to support your vote.

I think otherwise. The evidence is not nullified. The replacing creates some problems:
1. to read the player, which is the same (alignment) but not the same (playstyle).
2. to retrieve more info from questions like: "why did you say/do this"
granted
but that doesn't nullify the evidence. To give a very extreme example, if some player claims Vig and get replaced, the claim is still there. The replacement my wonder why on earth the claim was made, but can't say boldly: "Forget the claim". Basically that is what you are trying here, in a less straightforward situation. Dral's claim to have protected FeRnAnDo means that either some other townie is lying, Dral was quack or Dral is scum. Regardless of the replacing one of the those 3 possibilities is true, and frankly I don't believe the first one. So you are quack or scum, that is proven and can't be nullified.

[d3sisted]

So basically you're saying the only reason I have any votes on me at all is because Dral claimed to targeting Fernando? That is inane.

And i'm not talking about claims. I'm talking about minor tells that others happened to pick up on. Tells that appear solid but are nonetheless ambiguous and misconceived. Those tells ought not be attributed to the replacement player.

At any rate, at least a distinction should be made between the two (e.g. "Though D3sised is not nearly as scummy as Dral, I'm still voting for him because of how Dral played before him.")

[Thesp]

Prodding Indy, ~N9V~, Battle Mage, and JDodge. I will start replacing players that haven't posted as soon as I can, starting with longest gone.

Also, deadline institution imminent, replacements or not. Thanks!