Micro 508: MafiaMafiaNotMafia (Bins' Soup Sucks)

[TheIrishPope]

Ok caught up. 100% sure either chamber or parama is scum, and if I had to state a non mafia group it would be UniBinsPie.
I'm lonely so ask me questions and I'll answer

[InflatablePie]

100% sure either chamber or parama is scum

bravo

[InflatablePie]

vague order of scum->town reads on the lucky/edo/NM group, go

[Parama]

I don't necessarily disagree, I've seen town argue it before in this set-up and there's nothing that particularly hits me as "Chamber doesn't believe this"

irish it's because i personally have to decide between you and chamber

and again it doesn't matter which group is the town group because we're lynching in all three groups either way
i'm glad you suspect one of the two people fypov that you should suspect

[Parama]

guess what, i did not mean to quote that post

sigh

[TheIrishPope]

vague order of scum->town reads on the lucky/edo/NM group, go

Edo and NM are equal in scumminess, and I think lucky is being genuine?

irish it's because i personally have to decide between you and chamber

and again it doesn't matter which group is the town group because we're lynching in all three groups either way
i'm glad you suspect one of the two people fypov that you should suspect

The point isn't that I have to suspect one of the two, the point is that it doesn't matter if we're split up in groups, I'll still scumhunt like this was a regular game of mafia. Suspecting one or both of you two is not necessary as I could call you both town, but you and I know that's not true.

[InflatablePie]

anyways pie, my reasoning for chamber is arguably bad, apparently, so argue with me why it's bad.

your argument seems to boil down to scum doing something in another run of this setup, thus chamber is scum for suggesting those things.

not only do I find that kinda forced, but the general post does come off as nitpicking.

I reread 145 though and that feels more town now, but effort =/= town so idk. maybe TIP and you are slightly closer in townie-ness now.

However, a lot of his issues with ploti-cat are play-style: trust me, this is her 'tryharding' as town.

I gave way more reasoning for disliking this hydra's first post of the game - which was yours, no?

[TheIrishPope]

Actually, Edos is scummier by a bit.

[InflatablePie]

*anon -> Unicat

habit.

[Edosurist]

Sorry, been having computer problems I'm trying to deal with. I'll just swap to my phone, I think.

[Edosurist]

I actually peg my group for the all town group. I'm keeping my vote on Lucky because between him and NM, he's the one I'm least sure about.

Order, Scum>maybe scum>town

Rainbow Unicat>InflatablePie>Bins

Parama>TheIrishPope>Chamber

Lucky2U>Not_Mafia>Edosurist

[Edosurist]

Wait a minute. I screwed that up.
The second group should be this:

TheIrishPope>Chamber>Parama

[Edosurist]

@Lucky
Do you think chamber is scum?

[Lucky2u]

Given the last few pages, I am less sure about that group. I'd wager between TiP and Chamber for different reasons. Despite being a dick, I think para is mostly town. The rainbow cat is probably scum in his group. He fence sat in 126 as a disclaimer and I don't like him blatantly asking for direction on reads for you and NM. seems like he is avoiding taking a stance.

[Bins]

man I feel like I'm in LYLO already

[Bins]

i really need to get over being intimidated by either players I've never played with before or people i've been wrong about so many times i might cry again

[Parama]

The point isn't that I have to suspect one of the two, the point is that it doesn't matter if we're split up in groups, I'll still scumhunt like this was a regular game of mafia. Suspecting one or both of you two is not necessary as I could call you both town, but you and I know that's not true.

alright i guess but you need to treat all three groups as having one scum d1 anyways

your argument seems to boil down to scum doing something in another run of this setup, thus chamber is scum for suggesting those things.

yeah that's my argument if you skim the first post i made, sure
refer back to this:

but you're missing the point. i never said red looked scummy in that game for his theory posting (and nobody else did either, his play was wildly terrible in the second half of day 1 and all of day 2 but that's beside the point). i never said you were scummy simply because you had the same mindset as a scum player in another game. you assert that his theory has nothing to do with him being scum, but with him being competent, using this to imply that you are also competent. your justification is not competent. "it's obvious" is not justification. "competence" is not a shield.
and sure, scum don't lie all the time, but they don't tell the truth all the time either. it's not hard to lie about theory in a new setup where there's no definitive statement on theory, and you can pull together a solid argument to back up your theory whether it's right or wrong, because nothing is black and white.

tho it looks like you already did

and yeah i agree effort =/= town
^do not forget this ever
^EEEEVVVEEEERRR

i have coasted in so many games as scum because i'm almost always capable of putting in effort and people write me off as town for that, it's hilarious

irish, i'd like if you elaborated. i also want chamber to elaborate but i know he's not going to

I actually peg my group for the all town group.

whooosh, that's the sound of any town cred you have plummeting off the edge of a cliff.
justify why you feel this way in your next post.

by the way pie's my strongest townread atm, it could legit go either way between unicat/bins in the first group, i kinda get buddyingfeels from Bins' posting but that might be just paranoia, unicat's posting looks the worst so far in that group

and edo just sank his own ship in the third group so lucky gets a pass for now

[InflatablePie]

i have coasted in so many games as scum because i'm almost always capable of putting in effort and people write me off as town for that, it's hilarious

...

by the way pie's my strongest townread atm

[paranoia intensifies]

[Parama]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bKxGTNwlGL8

[TheIrishPope]

elaborate on?

[Parama]

elaborate on why Edo is scummier than NM.
elaborate on any/all of your reads. posting something beyond the bare minimum.

[Salamence20]

Rainbow Unicat - InflatablePie
Bins -
InflatablePie - Rainbow Unicat


TheIrishPope -
Parama - Chamber
Chamber - Parama


Edosurist - Lucky2u
Not_Mafia -

Lucky2U - Not Mafia, Edosurist

A lynch can only be obtained when all 3 groups have a lynch.
If you decide not to lynch, the mafia will choose the lynch.

[Edosurist]

hmm i just thought of another strong argument for not trying to figure out which group is all-town today but i can't say anymore until day 2 rolls around

Cool, I saw this Parama. I'm curious why this is such a strong argument that I now have to be scum for stating that I think my group is NotMafia.

Either way, I changed my mind:

Given the last few pages, I am less sure about that group.

I'd wager between TiP and Chamber for different reasons.

Despite being a dick, I think para is mostly town. The rainbow cat is probably scum in his group. He fence sat in 126 as a disclaimer and I don't like him blatantly asking for direction on reads for you and NM. seems like he is avoiding taking a stance.

Dafuq is this? I asked you if chamber is scum, and you gave me info on everybody else EXCEPT for him.
I'm glad to see you have reasoning here. Mind sharing your reasons?

[Edosurist]

And anticipating that you're gonna ask why I thought my group was the NotMafia, I thought Lucky's touchiness around you indicated that he was town. I've changed my mind since then.

[Edosurist]

@Mod

If you decide not to lynch, the mafia will choose the lynch.

Can we get a timer on this?
I will be V/LA from Aug 7 -13.