STEVEN UNIVERSE MAFIA - GAME OVER

[Reasonably Rational]

Really....I am conftown , I am conftown ... oh wait I am conftown but nobody can see it but a certain person.

There is a form of being conftown like this.

Two, actually.

I said I was conftown because of one of them.

Saying that it has to be revealed in order to exist is incredibly narrow-minded.

It's not that I can't reveal it. I WILL be revealing it. And it will be today. It's that there's something I'm discussing about the finer points of it.

And believe me. When you see it. This won't be a lame-ass SMITE reveal.

You never gave a satisfactory reason why Hermit is so high on your town list.

Yes I did: their posting has been ridiculously,

ridiculously

town,

and

the wagon on them sucked.

Hi Mastin. It would be awesome if you could, like, try to prioritize this game a bit. kthxbai.

-Cerb

[Ricastle]

"The game can't be broken by flavour". That is scum's fakeclaim.

You're underestimating Titus by the way. I wouldn't put it past her to pull a stunt like that, especially if she doesn't have a fakeclaim.

Cooldog deserves death for the push on me, the Mastin vote today, and the bolded.

[mastin2]

Mastin actually has a surprisingly rational reason to have claimed what she did at the start of the game. We are aware of that reason and I'm waiting for Cerberus before we decide how to proceed. Putting votes on her isn't going to speed up the way she gets confirmed, because it isn't completely in her hands.

Honestly, I wish you hadn't revealed this since I was hoping to keep your involvement anonymous, but yes, I can confirm; my claims to being conftown are tied to Reasonably Rational. (There's a reason RR tops my townlist.)

[Reasonably Rational]

"The game can't be broken by flavour". That is scum's fakeclaim.

You're underestimating Titus by the way. I wouldn't put it past her to pull a stunt like that, especially if she doesn't have a fakeclaim.

Cooldog deserves death for the push on me, the Mastin vote today, and the bolded.

Why wouldn't she just, like, not claim to you though? Claim role, rather than name, perhaps, or something? Underestimating Titus(and TSO) in that the two of them would be "next leveling" us here, and making said play precisely because it doesn't make sense as scum?

-Cerb

[mastin2]

Anyone can play against strategic meta.

Can

, yes.

Would

, FUCK no. You know how hilariously bad an idea it is to fakeclaim as scum?

Like. I got shit thrown at me in SMITE for my actions there. I got shit thrown at me in Sabotage in spite of me telling the truth! I got shit thrown at me in Signs and Void for it as well. Yet in each of those games, I had an ability that at least in theory backed me up.

What happens if I get shit thrown at me and I

don't

have the ability to back it up, hmm? I get off without a modicum of suspicion? Fuck no I wouldn't; it'd be suicide because no matter how much a sweettalker I may be, I'm not THAT charismatic. It's fucking mafia 101.

And here, RR has half-confirmed that, yes, I do have what I claim I have, soooooooooooooooooooooooooo...

I have an iron-clad mastin scumtell which I've never revealed to anyone. In this particular game, it is guaranteed to work. It hasn't activated yet, but that's part of the fun.

You know, you're right about me being town, but lack of a scumtell should

never

work. Does make me curious what said scumtell is, though, 'cause I

laugh

at the notion of being caught as scum on tells.

[mastin2]

I asked, quite clearly, for the case against Fro99er.

Literally half my iso is a case against Frogger.

No, quite seriously, iso me. Search for Frogger. Then search for Fro99er because I alternate in spelling. Finish off with Raging, and then Ra9in9 to fill in the gaps. I can quote that if you want, but there's a reason I said I'd murder Maxwell after he asked this same question.

Sonic didn't even get close to all of the points against Frogger; he just got some of the more recent ones.

[mastin2]

How can I townread TSO and scumread titus so hard????? This doesn't make sense.

Honestly, especially with the non-Titus head being inactive, it does to me, and sadly, would be an indication that Titus is town. (Yes, Titus, sadly that you're town.)

[mastin2]

I just rolecopped them and Varsoon sent over what Mastina does.

Rolecop. Yes. When I can't see how Skybird would be killed without a rolecop result on them.

I don't doubt that the role is real, though, so I suppose no point in hiding that I do get my vote in certain specific circumstances. Which I will not reveal. The other bit, though, most definitely should stay hidden.

[Fro99er]

Sonic didn't even get close to all of the points against Frogger; he just got some of the more recent ones.

Sonic got none of his own points, period.

[Reasonably Rational]

I asked, quite clearly, for the case against Fro99er.

Literally half my iso is a case against Frogger.

No, quite seriously, iso me. Search for Frogger. Then search for Fro99er because I alternate in spelling. Finish off with Raging, and then Ra9in9 to fill in the gaps. I can quote that if you want, but there's a reason I said I'd murder Maxwell after he asked this same question.

Sonic didn't even get close to all of the points against Frogger; he just got some of the more recent ones.

Well, the parts of your case against frogger that are based on ascetic/gladiator mod meta BS? Yes, the part you kept going on and on about at great length? Yeah, that's a terrible theory. Unlike Drixx, I was actively here yesterday, so I don't think I was running the reread risk of missing things, and nothing about your case against frogger seemed worthwhile. Like, nowhere close to it.

I'm looking for reasons that aren't based on froggers "scum meta" or varsoons "mod meta"/past experiences you know he's had with other setups that you think he stole things from. Like, say, things which would be identified as scummy if performed by an individual whose first game this was, whose name is Trafalgar. What, has Trafalgar done this game, as a player in his first game ever, that makes him scum?

-Cerb

[Fro99er]

Mastina do you get your vote back tomorrow? Help me with it.

No,

I'm voteless the whole. freakin'. time.

It's presumably to help counterbalance the power of the conftown-on-D3 bit in my role. (I'd claim, but I'd rather keep the scum guessing. I'll be conftown tomorrow; the method matters just enough that I'm keeping a tight lip on it.)

I just rolecopped them and Varsoon sent over what Mastina does.

Rolecop. Yes. When I can't see how Skybird would be killed without a rolecop result on them.

I don't doubt that the role is real, though, so I suppose no point in hiding that

I do get my vote in certain specific circumstances

. Which I will not reveal. The other bit, though, most definitely should stay hidden.

Hmmm

[Reasonably Rational]

Mastina do you get your vote back tomorrow? Help me with it.

No,

I'm voteless the whole. freakin'. time.

It's presumably to help counterbalance the power of the conftown-on-D3 bit in my role. (I'd claim, but I'd rather keep the scum guessing. I'll be conftown tomorrow; the method matters just enough that I'm keeping a tight lip on it.)

I just rolecopped them and Varsoon sent over what Mastina does.

Rolecop. Yes. When I can't see how Skybird would be killed without a rolecop result on them.

I don't doubt that the role is real, though, so I suppose no point in hiding that

I do get my vote in certain specific circumstances

. Which I will not reveal. The other bit, though, most definitely should stay hidden.

Hmmm

Stop it, mastins town as fuck. She clearly never intended to express when and why she would get her vote back(I have some suspicions about that), so it makes perfect sense for her to say what she said then. She's only saying anything about getting her vote back because she was rolecopped. Taking the action either alignment would in said scenario is alignment neutral.

-Cerb

[Reasonably Rational]

Mastin, I would really appreciate some more concrete cooperation here.

-Cerb

[Fro99er]

@RR

I guess. All I see is someone making a crap push on me, defending/buddying sonic, becoming conftown which hasn't happened yet (but you give your word it will), and a contradiction.

But I clearly don't know as much as you seem to know about Mastin, so I'll take your word for it unless I have a reason not to

[mastin2]

I'm voteless the whole. freakin'. time.

I do get my vote in certain specific circumstances

.

Hmmm

Yes, I lied. Sort-of. It was part of a gambit. Which I could reveal but would prefer not to.

When will people learn that when I say I'm conftown, I'm saying, "TRUST ME,

I HAVE A PLAN

!"? (Granted, said plans don't necessarily work out, but that I have them should mean something.)

[Ricastle]

"The game can't be broken by flavour". That is scum's fakeclaim.

You're underestimating Titus by the way. I wouldn't put it past her to pull a stunt like that, especially if she doesn't have a fakeclaim.

Cooldog deserves death for the push on me, the Mastin vote today, and the bolded.

Why wouldn't she just, like, not claim to you though? Claim role, rather than name, perhaps, or something? Underestimating Titus(and TSO) in that the two of them would be "next leveling" us here, and making said play precisely because it doesn't make sense as scum?

-Cerb

She already roleclaimed to me. She refused to claim flavour at the time "just in case scum have a flavour cop" which is some radical moonlogic that only serves to compound the scumminess of it all.

[Reasonably Rational]

That's a fairly bad reason to not claim flavor, sure. Not scummy. Just a bad reason. TW, why did you claim your flavor to him eventually?

Is her role scummy in your opinion?

-Cerb

[Ricastle]

It's scummy because it's a dumb excuse.

It definitely has the potential to be a scum role. I assume you know what it is as well.

[Trench Warfare]

That's a fairly bad reason to not claim flavor, sure. Not scummy. Just a bad reason. TW, why did you claim your flavor to him eventually?

Is her role scummy in your opinion?

-Cerb

I did flavor claim and claimed all prior actions. I claimed Lighthouse gem. My rolecop requires me to put that phrase in the thread and was my failsafe in case I had a player I thought was town but basically started acting like Ricastle. Considering we already know Ricastle's a dayvig, I figured that it was best to publicly rolecop Mastina.

Mastina, if you persist on this bullshit that you're conftown, I will claim your ability as much as I can without being really fucking anti-town. Or I can keep my mouthshut, you can drop this pretense of you being conftown and admit you're equal with the rest of us. You know full well I don't buy that shit.

The whole "If you think I'm town trust me, while I push you for information almost never works.".

[Trench Warfare]

It's scummy because it's a dumb excuse.

It definitely has the potential to be a scum role. I assume you know what it is as well.

Yeah, sure how about NO. Now you're trying to force me to out in public.

[Trench Warfare]

I am out for awhile. Work thing. Be back tonight.

[Ricastle]

No I'm not. We all have effectively the same info.

[Fro99er]

@Trench, what was your stance on ricastle before you allied with him and what is your stance now on Ricastle? Why did you ally with him?

[Trench Warfare]

@Trench, what was your stance on ricastle before you allied with him and what is your stance now on Ricastle? Why did you ally with him?

@Frogger, I thought Ricastle was town, but I am severely doubting that. I figured CC = shoot, which is what I would have in their place provided I had a town PM. Yet, his play is so scummy today. He's basically stopped scumhunting and is only flavor hunting. When obvious town (RR) tell him to back the fuck off, he's insistent solely because of flavor and ZOMG the power of Titus scum WIFOM. If he's prideful town, then he's ignoring the fact that our reads seem to be similar (we both agree on Cooldog scum for instance). He has his one worldview where XYZ must be true because Flavor is GOD. Even then, he's using selective parts of flavor and I know that just by reading lighthouse gem wikis.

[Fro99er]

Hmm. I think Ricastle is pretty damn town.

I don't think flavor hunting makes him scummy. Hell, I think the game is breakable on flavor as much as he does. That's why I'm adamant we flip sonic today. Scum flavor, scum play. Scum.