STEVEN UNIVERSE MAFIA - GAME OVER

[Varsoon]

"...and now we're gonna bury you 'til you've learned your lesson!"

-Amethyst,

Ocean Gem

"Aah! That's not how grounding works!"

-Steven,

Ocean Gem

VOTECOUNT 3.03

fro99er (5):

Sonic X, NicCage, Vezokpiraka, Vezokpiraka, grapes

Mastin2 (2):

Trench Warfare, CooLDoG

CooLDoG (1):

Ricastle

Not Voting (8):

MaxwellPuckett, fro99er, Reasonably Rational, Mastin2, Xtoxm, Thefuzzylogic99, St Constantine the Hermit, farside22

With 15 Alive, it takes 8 to Lynch.
Deadline

: (expired on 2015-08-16 15:00:00)

[mastin2]

I know you're expecting me to reveal why I'm conftown now, but hold please.

In the meantime,

Hey mastin, any reads beyond frogger before the night sets in?

My last readslist was kinda sorta still accurate, but since then, needs updating:

Last night, I submitted to the mod a tentative scumteam of: Frogger, obviously. MaxwellPucket, my only true scumread aside from Frogger.
One of {grapes, vezokpiraka}, but not the other. (51-49 vezok-grapes.)
And 1-2 scum in {farside22, Skybird, Fuzzylogic}, depending on scumteam size (four or five total).

I think NicCage is town, too.
I did acknowledge the potential for TW to be scum, but dismissed it. It could use revisiting, but if so, today's not the day I'd want to do it.

So basically,
Reasonably Rational
Sonic X
Ricastle
St Constantine the Hermit/Bins

Trench Warfare
NicCage

CooLDoG

farside22
Thefuzzylogic99
grapes
vezokpiraka

MaxwellPuckett
fro99er/Ra9in9 Bull

^Something like that is where I'm at.

Also, Fro99er's scum, etc.
(Btw, the reason Skybird's dead in case anyone's wondering: that role is effectively a cop. I can't see the scum killing Skybird off of reads--though I do owe Skybird's reads a look just in case--but I CAN see them killing Skybird if they have a rolecop result on Sky.)

[mastin2]

Hmm. I wouldn't be too concerned about mastin2 whole not confirmed yet thing she's posted. It could easily be something she has to trigger.

All to be revealed, but if you look at my 'crumbs in my iso, it's really, really,

really

obvious.

[mastin2]

Mastina's not conftown.

What were you expecting, a public reveal of my role PM? A direct message from the mod saying,

Mastin2 is confirmed to be a Beach City Resident

on daystart?

No, I said I was conftown for different reasons, reasons which will be clear at a slightly later time. But sometime this day phase, short of you being morons and quicklynching.

[mastin2]

So what, scum have an alliance blocker or something?

(Or one/both are scum. Would be hilarious if scum can't ally with scum.)

[mastin2]

fro99er (5):

Sonic X, NicCage, Vezokpiraka, Vezokpiraka, grapes

This is a good wagon. (Eh, the composition's not the best, but after yesterday, scum would be pretty stupid not to bus.)

Mastin2 (2):

Trench Warfare, CooLDoG

This is a derpwagon.

Also, I'll say, the reason I said I'd be conftown isn't because of a trigger ability, that is, an ability that I PM to the mod. The reason I said I'd be conftown is an ability that triggered at daystart, but which is not public. Which is why I said to hold for a bit. You'll get your reveal.

[mastin2]

I can see scum claiming conftown and than claiming that they were not confirm bc there was no trigger.

It's complicated, but basically: my role has a built-in ability that auto-triggered on D3's start. This is why I said that I'd be conftown today.

However, it is not a public ability that would reveal me as town. It's a private ability. This does not negate the statement I made, though. Just because it's not public doesn't mean it doesn't exist. I'll be revealing it soon enough. Just not at this very moment, when I'm catching up.

[mastin2]

All the free townreads day 1 and Day 2.

Titus, fuck off. You seriously, seriously, know NOTHING about my personality, WHATSOEVER, if you make the assumption that I would EVER in my life call myself conftown on a specific date, only to lie about it. Now,

granted

, sometimes, SMITE happens and what should be conftown ends up not being conftown, but that's a TOWN game where I had good reason to do what I did and just so HAPPENED to have things end up not working as they should have. Or you could say Sabotage happened. (Where I not only had both a friendly neighbor ability, BUT ALSO a fruit vend ability, and BOTH got negated by the scum.) Never as scum.

There's a reason for that. Fuck escaping two lynches. I'm FUCKING MASTINA. I can do that withOUT a damn roleclaim.

And you fucking know I can

. As scum, my goal is to live as long as possible, and giving myself a SET EXPIRATION DATE is the polar opposite of that. (Which, btw, I remind you, you saw...in Signs and Void. And referenced in that game was a prior game, with Cheetory in it, modded by The Critics I believe, forget the name of it, but I was basically Cheetory/Marquis's role this game, a one-way lover with a reflexive self-watch if I didn't use my track.)

Doing jackshit d1 and d2 (pushing Frogger when it cannot happen doesn't count).

...Is a fucking REAL LIFE TELL, not an alignment tell, because yes my life happens.

fro99er (6):

Sonic X, NicCage, Vezokpiraka, Vezokpiraka, grapes, farside22

I repeat, good wagon. (Even if not so good names on there.)

[Ricastle]

Could all gems weigh in on the Fro99er thing please? Shouldn't be harmful to merely claim your race. All we need to know is wether your alliance and fusion abilities are separate or not.

[mastin2]

Mastina has a lie she told for towncred.

Which, mind you...I never do as scum.

ffery POINTED THIS OUT TO PEOPLE IN SIGNS AND VOID. Like,

mastin2 - Nacho has seen this stubborn read-pushing but relatively low engagement style from mastin-town a couple times in recent memory. he's never seen it from mastin-scum. This style of play alienates her from player lists (unless there's a huge contingent of players who know her fairly well) and makes her an easier lynch target.

he agrees with me that the incessant crumbing is not something he's seen from her as scum.

The mindset behind her "walking deadwoman" posting which, as Regfan has pointed out, only makes it more difficult for her to explain being alive at endgame. In this game, scum-mastin would be aiming to be alive at endgame. Some of her stranger reads, e.g., Cheetory-scum, singer-scum, DV (nacho disagreed with DV-scum once but not so strongly anymore) are scumreads that won't be getting lynched anytime soon - not easy to push if scum, and in total alienate her from the rest of the playerlist to some extent. She would be pushing easy mislynches if scum townread. her mindset is quite simply not a scum mindset.

Ok so Mastin-softclaims.
I didn't pay attention to known mastin-alts when I did this lengthy multi-year meta dive, but I recently once again went through a ton of her threads looking at how she gambits/crumbs as town vs as scum, to re-confirm something I've depended on in reading her. What I found was this: NOT ONE SINGLE GAME where Mastin crumbs a PR as scum. And pretty close to ZERO games where mastin-town DIDN'T crumb.
Admittedly I could have missed one. But srsly - she crumbs incessantly as town. Not as scum.

(Tangent: I have softclaimed my ACTUAL SCUM ROLE as scum before, and ffery DID miss a 2012 game, modded by Oversoul, though that was not really a game where I 'crumbed so much as I got lucky.)

180+ games to my name.
More than basically any. other. fucking. player. On the damn site.
Strewn across nearly seven fucking years.
Of those. Let's do a conservative estimate and say I was scum in only 40 or so of them. (That's fairly fucking conservative, too!)

One game.
ONE damn game.
As scum did I fakeclaim.
Once in my entire fucking career as a scum player.
Have I made a fakeclaim.
(...Okay. Twice. I had blocked out Mafia on Werewolf Island. *shudder* But, multiscum game, and I realclaimed later, so, etc.)

Every damn game other than that.
EVERY. damn. game.
Either my role was real, and/or I was town.

And you. damn. well. KNOW. it.

[mastin2]

If you want a Fro99er lynch, tell us why, because I know there's material for it since there's been Fro99er wagons all game.

I

get

that you're scum, but I'm still going to

MURDER

you.

[mastin2]

Actually, fuck it.

Titus is scum.
She can be dense as town.

But on a

subject she already has knowledge on

, she would not be this stubborn, this insistent, and this obtuse.
Yes, as town she's stubborn and obtuse. But the difference is that there's a consistency behind it.

Also, TSO's inactive which while not necessarily a scumtell, does make the slot look worse, soyeah.

[Xtoxm]

Not sure if I prefer this to walls, but i'll admit i'm reading more of your stuff than usual.

[vezokpiraka]

@mastin: I'm town and farside is town. Fro99er and titus are scum. Remake your reads based on this.

[mastin2]

@mastin: I'm town and farside is town. Fro99er and titus are scum. Remake your reads based on this.

Well that'd make me think one or both (if five scum) of Fuzzy/grapes were scum, to fill the gaps: Titus (I was mistaken about the townread there, which I may or may not explain why), Fro99er, and Maxwell = 3 scum, and Fuzzy/grapes makes the fourth/fifth (or fifth/fourth).

I can definitely buy that.

[vezokpiraka]

@mastin: I'm town and farside is town. Fro99er and titus are scum. Remake your reads based on this.

Well that'd make me think one or both (if five scum) of Fuzzy/grapes were scum, to fill the gaps: Titus (I was mistaken about the townread there, which I may or may not explain why), Fro99er, and Maxwell = 3 scum, and Fuzzy/grapes makes the fourth/fifth (or fifth/fourth).

I can definitely buy that.

That's way better than before. The only read I don't agree with is maxwell, but it's not such a strong read that I can't persuaded.

Also my ability stops working in LyLo so as long as I'm a double voter we know we aren't in LyLo.

[TheFuzzylogic99]

Heads up I will be VLA from the 8th to the 15th this month. Fun real life stuff No really Im not being Sarcastic

Mastin
Really....I am conftown , I am conftown ... oh wait I am conftown but nobody can see it but a certain person.

I might be dense but not that dense. This sound like scum who caught in a fake claim. You have not given me any reason not to believe other wise. Your reads are terrible. You are giving me the feel of scum right now.
You never gave a satisfactory reason why Hermit is so high on your town list. Also I am town and Frog is prob is too. Your reads are terrible and feels forced.

Vote Mastin

I am quite happy with my vote at the moment.

[Xtoxm]

Also my ability

stops working in LyLo

so as long as I'm a double voter we know we aren't in LyLo.

Excuse me but...How is that a town modifier?

[farside22]

I can see scum claiming conftown and than claiming that they were not confirm bc there was no trigger.

It's complicated, but basically: my role has a built-in ability that auto-triggered on D3's start. This is why I said that I'd be conftown today.

However, it is not a public ability that would reveal me as town. It's a private ability. This does not negate the statement I made, though. Just because it's not public doesn't mean it doesn't exist. I'll be revealing it soon enough. Just not at this very moment, when I'm catching up.

I call bs

Vote: mastin

[farside22]

Also my ability

stops working in LyLo

so as long as I'm a double voter we know we aren't in LyLo.

Excuse me but...How is that a town modifier?

Have you read the game?

[Xtoxm]

I have not.

[Ricastle]

Yeah, Mastin, I really think you need to reveal why you're conftown right now. And if pressuring you is what it takes to do that...

VOTE: Mastin

[farside22]

I have not.

Why not? Right now it just reads like your making comments to make comments and this point in the game many are trying to think about the theme and outguess the mod, you know better then that.

[Xtoxm]

I have not.

Why not? Right now it just reads like your making comments to make comments and this point in the game many are trying to think about the theme and outguess the mod, you know better then that.

Because I don't feel like reading historic stuff at the moment. I've said i'll get to it.

Comments for the sake of it? Except, i've made a number of posts in under 24 hours. I'm a pro at managing my prod timer, when I want to.

I'm following from day start. Direct interaction is the superior way to build reads. I'm not going to share my opinions until I get read up and supplement my reads, but that doesn't mean I can't participate.

I know better than to outguess the mod? Actually, there is a such thing as an alignment indicative role function. If something sounds wrong, it should be questioned.

[Varsoon]

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