Mini 482: Shrek Mafia - Game Over

[DeliciousGoldfish]

Wow. I just read it again and noticed some funny little hint-dropping... benhalkum and InHim appear, in my eyes, to be scum partners.

They throw suspicion each others' way... Jut little bits... Nothing solid. benhalkum even says "as if trying to get people suspecious of me." then votes him even though he said 2 posts prior to that that he didn't think voting him would be wise yet. He only voted him because he was prodded to for looking like he defended him.

wtf mate?

No wonder Inhim says he thinks the new bandwagon is better than the wagon against ben... haha.

Though obviously I can't PROVE this until the game ends or they are nked or lynched but... I believe I have a good theory goin.

[Mirth]

Wow. I just read it again and noticed some funny little hint-dropping... benhalkum and InHim appear, in my eyes, to be scum partners.

They throw suspicion each others' way... Jut little bits... Nothing solid. benhalkum even says "as if trying to get people suspecious of me." then votes him even though he said 2 posts prior to that that he didn't think voting him would be wise yet. He only voted him because he was prodded to for looking like he defended him.

wtf mate?

No wonder Inhim says he thinks the new bandwagon is better than the wagon against ben... haha.

Though obviously I can't PROVE this until the game ends or they are nked or lynched but... I believe I have a good theory goin.

Yet there is something that doesn't add up with this theory. InHim is obviously an experienced player. So why would he be basically giving himself away like that if he is mafia? I don't get it.

[Zindaras]

Yet there is something that doesn't add up with this theory. InHim is obviously an experienced player. So why would he be basically giving himself away like that if he is mafia? I don't get it.

So because he is experienced, he cannot possibly be caught?

It's a possibility, that's all. I think it was definitely good that Goldy pointed it out.

To be honest, the wagoning speed we keep building up keeps me off-balance. I'm not sure what to think of inHim's fifth vote there. I'd like him to elaborate on "wagoning for wagoning's sake" and I'll have to see if I like his explanation.

[Mirth]

Yet there is something that doesn't add up with this theory. InHim is obviously an experienced player. So why would he be basically giving himself away like that if he is mafia? I don't get it.

So because he is experienced, he cannot possibly be caught?

No, because he's experienced, it seems to be an even stupider move than it would normally be. Like he should know that voting like that would draw major amounts of suspicion.

[DeliciousGoldfish]

He could be double-guessing. Knowing he'll get the benefit of the doubt he could make a move out in the open like that, hoping someone will step up and vouch for his experience...

It's been done before... I won't ever rule someone out just because they're "newbie" or even just because they are "experienced." Any number of moves can be made in any number of ways... In mafia, everyone is guilty until proven innocent in my book. But, as shown, my vote stays on benhalkum, for, in my opinion, being the more sketchy of the two. And, I frankly would rather see InHim defend himself rather than have other people try to defend him...

[Mirth]

I'm not defending him (see where my vote is). I'm just curious as to why he'd do something that he probably knows will cause everyone to jump down his throat.

[Jex]

Wow. I just read it again and noticed some funny little hint-dropping... benhalkum and InHim appear, in my eyes, to be scum partners.

They throw suspicion each others' way... Jut little bits... Nothing solid. benhalkum even says "as if trying to get people suspecious of me." then votes him even though he said 2 posts prior to that that he didn't think voting him would be wise yet. He only voted him because he was prodded to for looking like he defended him.

wtf mate?

No wonder Inhim says he thinks the new bandwagon is better than the wagon against ben... haha.

Though obviously I can't PROVE this until the game ends or they are nked or lynched but... I believe I have a good theory goin.

Yet there is something that doesn't add up with this theory. InHim is obviously an experienced player. So why would he be basically giving himself away like that if he is mafia? I don't get it.

Experience doesn't necessarily equal good player. I've definitely learned this from some people who consistently play horribly no matter who many times it gets you lynched.

And as to recent posts...wow. I really don't know who seems scummier between ben and inhim at the moment. I'm keeping my vote on inhim because he caught my attention first and I would like to hear his defense.

As for Ben, I really don't like the change of tune after people started questioning inhim.

@ Delicious: I like your point about the scum buddies (ben and inhim). I don't know if I'm completely ready to link both, but they are equally sketchy and seem to have rather strange play tactics at the moment. I want to do a reread of the game (probably tomorrow because it's late) and look more into this theory.

[Zindaras]

No, because he's experienced, it seems to be an even stupider move than it would normally be. Like he should know that voting like that would draw major amounts of suspicion.

Yet people are stupid. I think it would be too hasty to do it off. It's also too hasty to draw quick conclusions, I'm just warning for both extremes.

[Grek]

Vote:InHim

He has had long enough to tell us what he was doing.

As for the InHim and Ben as scumbuddies idea, ben is to random to be easily readable(or helpful), but inHimshallibe did seem to be defending him. It could be true, but I'd not bet money on it just yet.

[Mirth]

Unvote:InHim

I don't like how quickly this is escalating, especially since InHim hasn't said very much. I would like to hear more from him. His play also doesn't sit well with me for another reason someone mentioned earlier. (I would like to hear from InHim before I point out exactly what is bothering me here, as I don't want to prompt any responses in that vein of thought.)

[Pug89]

I like this wagon much better than ben's, as I've noted. I'm wagoning for wagoning's sake, for those that will demand a reason from me.

What I don't like about this is that is that he says he is wagoning for wagonings sake yet he prefers one wagon over the other. He has to have a reason for likeing Grek's wagon over Ben's so why not just use that as justifacation for his vote.


Also, I will be busy the next few days and may be unable to post.

[benhalkum]

I request to be replaced. I will no longer be participating in mafia games hosted by mafiascum. I did enjoy my stay but the games are too slow paced and unproductive for me.

[inHimshallibe]

Day 1 for me is probably the worst if people prefer overanalyzing, and here I am just wanting to get cursory reads on people and get some solid information.

Right now I've put myself in a pretty unpopular camp - I'm anti-ben's bandwagon because of its speed. That's really the only thing I got that I didn't like about it, but little things like that help me find who I want to lynch. Argh, so many negatives.

I'll say this again: I really don't want to think too much about Today's lynch besides my initial take on the game - my conditions Today are: lynch someone not named inHim or benhalkum. Things get pieced together for the good of the Town when more concrete information is at hand, like Day 2.

Sorry again about my long absences. I think I'm fully back now after a crazy week and more.

[Mirth]

Why exactly don't you want to lynch Ben (or whoever his replacement is)?

[Grek]

my conditions Today are: lynch someone not named inHim or benhalkum.

Why don't you want benhalkum lynched? Do you know something about him we don't? Are you scumbuddies? Until you can answer those questions, you have my vote.

Vote:inHimshallibe

[Grek]

Oh wait, I was already voting. Make that a confrim vote then.

[inHimshallibe]

I really didn't mean to make it so black and white... all this is snowballing from my initial reads on this game. I'm taking the stance I do now toward ben because of the resistance I am now experiencing.

[Grek]

You haven't posted any initial reads, nor said what you think of anyone but Nox, ben and me. You implied that Nox is scummy for being the 3rd vote, ben isn't scum for reasons unknown, and said I am scum.

[KaleiÐoscøpe]

AKA Apokalypsekid9 is replacting Benhalkum, effective now.

[Jex]

Welcome to the game Apo!

My vote is still on inhim because I don't think he's cleared his name, but Grek is still high on my list of scum and getting higher. I feel his past few posts have been nothing but "yes lets look at inhim now" type posts. I feel he's attacking incredibly hard in order to make sure the attention doesn't come back to him. For now I simply

FOS Grek

, but he is high on my scum list.

[Grek]

My vote is still on inhim because I don't think he's cleared his name, but Grek is still high on my list of scum and getting higher. I feel his past few posts have been nothing but "yes lets look at inhim now" type posts. I feel he's attacking incredibly hard in order to make sure the attention doesn't come back to him. For now I simply

FOS Grek

, but he is high on my scum list.

I normaly attack people this hard. Inhim and ben are the only two people I think are scummy, and ben isn't coherant enough to question. Hopefuly AKA Apokalypsekid9 will be better.

[inHimshallibe]

You haven't posted any initial reads, nor said what you think of anyone but Nox, ben and me. You implied that Nox is scummy for being the 3rd vote, ben isn't scum for reasons unknown, and said I am scum.

That's all they are... reads. I'm pretty vibey on Day 1. The Nox vote was honestly just a shot in the dark, but with you some of your posts struck a nerve. Day 1 won't get much more from me on Day 1 besides who I support or who I suspect - I'll get to the other players when I feel it needs attention.

[Nox]

I have internet now.(Whoo...)

I have mixed feelings on the Inhim wagon.

I think "Wagoning for wagoning's Sake" is possibly the scummiest thing I've heard thus far during this game. How could wagoning for wagoning's sake be of

any

benefit to the town? It sounds like Inhim's trying to quicklynch by just plain blindly following any wagon.

However, I strongly dislike when bandwagons escalate this quickly, and Inhim's did at a rather astounding speed, regardless of how terribly scummy his bandwagon-hopping justification(Or lack there-of) was.

I also don't like how this comment of Inhim's seems almost like a distraction, almost as if he was purposely trying to attract attention on himself. I mean, seriously, who says that? As I've stated previously, It makes

no

sense.

[Grek]

That's all they are... reads. I'm pretty vibey on Day 1. The Nox vote was honestly just a shot in the dark, but with you some of your posts struck a nerve. Day 1 won't get much more from me on Day 1 besides who I support or who I suspect - I'll get to the other players when I feel it needs attention.

Post your vibes. Anything you post is just more info for the town to go over and find scum with.

[Haschel Cedricson]

I'm checking in, but I'm holding off analysis until AKA Apokalypsekid9 comments. Also, from now on, I will be referring to him as Apo.