Mini 1694 -- Zodiac Mafia II (Game Over)

Ricastle · Post Post #1100 (ISO) » Sun Jul 19, 2015 11:53 am

In post 1098, Nachomamma8 wrote:Ricastle, why are you voting me again?

Same reasons as yesterday. Time to do something town, now! Like, say, voting elusive.

elusive · Post Post #1101 (ISO) » Sun Jul 19, 2015 2:27 pm

If I were scum I would have killed Nacho and done some drama about my tragic heroic champion lost to the vileness of scums.

elusive · Post Post #1102 (ISO) » Sun Jul 19, 2015 2:57 pm

Ricastle, based on the the basis of playing two games with me can you support your vote or reasoning with actual content rather then empty statements?

Aronis · Post Post #1103 (ISO) » Sun Jul 19, 2015 4:20 pm

In post 1101, elusive wrote:If I were scum I would have killed Nacho and done some drama about my tragic heroic champion lost to the vileness of scums.

I find discussing who you would've nightkilled to be very sketchy. IF you're town, you have no reason to think about nightkilling anyone, on the other hand if you were scum wanting to use the nightkill to benefit your standing with the town, then you just made the perfect choice in Tammy. You can say you suspected her and pretend nacho is some sort of god, when in all reality he got ran up at the end of day 1 and because of that would be an awful decision.

St Constantine the Hermit · Post Post #1104 (ISO) » Sun Jul 19, 2015 4:37 pm

RedCoyote promised to publicly reveal everybody who recieved a fortune (which he has failed to do as of now).

elusive · Post Post #1105 (ISO) » Sun Jul 19, 2015 4:39 pm

? Isn't it MetalSonic and Startfromtheheart?

Also Aronis, you are trying hard to fit a narrative to me which is disturbing. Either you're scum or you're bad town.

I mean the fact that you're trying to decide what I would think or do as town or scum when SON YOU DONT KNOW ME is in itself bizarre.

St Constantine the Hermit · Post Post #1106 (ISO) » Sun Jul 19, 2015 4:44 pm

You guys were seriously dipshit yesterday. I would still say the scum block is on the mainez wagon, but I wonder why scum would of shot Tammy, who was doing a lot more following than scum hunting. I get that she was a weak link, which is why I was appealing to her more than the others on the wagon, but it still seems like the scum would of been better off hitting someone on the nacho wagon.

That leaves me thinking that scum hit Tammy to confuse us and prevent us from following through on the obv scum Nacho.

St Constantine the Hermit · Post Post #1107 (ISO) » Sun Jul 19, 2015 4:45 pm

@Elusive - Yes, but they claimed themselves. The mod said he would reveal those who recieved fortunes himself in the OP.

elusive · Post Post #1108 (ISO) » Sun Jul 19, 2015 4:49 pm

In post 1074, RedCoyote wrote:
All that has been and all that will be is here for you to know. Dare you glimpse the future? Dare you even ask...?

Day 2's Fortunate Horoscope Recipient (11)Metal Sonic -- Scorpio

Day 2's Unfortunate Horoscope Recipient (12)startfromtheheart -- Libra

These two players will receive horoscopes via PM in preparation for the next day phase.

Is that not above ?

Hermy, scumprobably thought they could turn the Tammy NK into a FOS on me and waste time that way or get me mislynched on stupid logic.

Metal Sonic · Post Post #1109 (ISO) » Sun Jul 19, 2015 4:49 pm

Poor Tammy

Poor elusivewaswrongbutthatsokay

elusive · Post Post #1110 (ISO) » Sun Jul 19, 2015 4:50 pm

I was hoping my suspicion on T ammy would prevent her from being an NK target because once again shes the first day nK target. meh.

I'm very resistant to voting Nacho, what do you think of Ricastle, Aronis and Farside?

elusive · Post Post #1111 (ISO) » Sun Jul 19, 2015 4:51 pm

Don't make me rip off your arm and beat you over the head with it.

St Constantine the Hermit · Post Post #1112 (ISO) » Sun Jul 19, 2015 4:51 pm

Might of just realized something important. D1 the two fortunes were bestowed on Mainez and Farside22. I don't believe either ever claimed what fortune they got. It could be because they felt it was strategic to keep it silent, but I do feel it is best if we keep good fortunes, and especially bad fortunes, public information.

Can we at least agree that SFTH and Farside22 should claim the bad fortunes they got, since they are essentially anti-town?

Hermy, scumprobably thought they could turn the Tammy NK into a FOS on me and waste time that way or get me mislynched on stupid logic.

Wouldn't they of instigated that play by now? NK speculation by scum usually happens at the start of the game.

RedCoyote · Post Post #1113 (ISO) » Sun Jul 19, 2015 4:52 pm

In post 1104, St Constantine the Hermit wrote:RedCoyote promised to publicly reveal everybody who recieved a fortune (which he has failed to do as of now).

Please see 1074.

Leo (July 23 - August 22)

Stereotype

: Proud and egocentric, the Lion is a self-absorbed, self-aggrandizing show-off.

Source

: Ruled by the Sun, the center of the solar system, Leo possesses the appropriate desire to shine brightly and be recognized and appreciated for radiating light and warmth. But Leo also rules the heart, and the truth is that Leo is also one of the most generous and giving signs -- when they express themselves from the heart. There's a fine line here, but many Leos are able to walk it beautifully -- while the less evolved Lions sometimes need a reminder to share the spotlight!

Vote Count 2 - 1

elusive (2) ( farside22 - Aronis)
Nachomamma8 (2) ( Ricastle - St Constantine the Hermit)

Aronis (1) ( elusive)

Not Voting (6) (
Aronis
- lane0168 -
St Constantine the Hermit
-
elusive
-
Ricastle
-
farside22
- Mainez - massive - Nachomamma8 - Metal Sonic - startfromtheheart)

With eleven alive, it takes six to lynch.
Current Deadline:

(expired on 2015-07-28 09:00:00)

elusive · Post Post #1114 (ISO) » Sun Jul 19, 2015 4:53 pm

I'm still evolving, its a WIP

St Constantine the Hermit · Post Post #1115 (ISO) » Sun Jul 19, 2015 4:54 pm

I was hoping my suspicion on Tammy would prevent her from being an NK target because once again shes the first day nK target. meh.

I'm still thinking the Tammy NK was to throw suspicion off the people on the Mainez wagon. She was both a follower and a weak link, so that makes more sense to me. I wouldn't buy a case that you were scum because of the NK in a million years. It wouldn't make sense.

startfromtheheart · Post Post #1116 (ISO) » Sun Jul 19, 2015 5:47 pm

In post 1098, Nachomamma8 wrote:I again don't really know where I want to go.

Ricastle, why are you voting me again?

Look main you ended yesterday tellin peeps to vote mainz
That's what's up?

startfromtheheart · Post Post #1117 (ISO) » Sun Jul 19, 2015 5:53 pm

VOTE: Mainez

ITS ALL GOOD MAINE

Ain't particularly fond of the current wagons.

Ricastle · Post Post #1118 (ISO) » Sun Jul 19, 2015 8:16 pm

In post 1082, elusive wrote:Oh honey faking it this early in the morning...already?

Very ironic statement.

In post 1084, elusive wrote:My questions about Tammy's flip are:
1. Does this mean this is an all townie game minus the horoscope effects?
2. Who would be stupid enough to think that I would suspect someone all day one and then NK them as scum? Or which scum would think this would be a good strategy to turn suspicion on me?
3. Ricastle, Aronis, and one more is where the scum are. Hermy.

start, you don't choose?

1. This was already ascertained. I don't see why town would need to go over this again.
2. Utter shit WIFOM; this is where you slipped. Defending yourself and lining up lynches based on the flip without precedent shows that this was a blatant stunt.
3. You just named 3 town.

Also, what on earth kind of question is that? It was also ascertained yesterday that the fortunes received were random. The only faction who has gotten to pick their power from the fortunes and reinforce the contrary belief is the Mafia.

In post 1105, elusive wrote:? Isn't it MetalSonic and Startfromtheheart?

Also Aronis, you are trying hard to fit a narrative to me which is disturbing. Either you're scum or you're bad town.

I mean the fact that you're trying to decide what I would think or do as town or scum when SON YOU DONT KNOW ME is in itself bizarre.

Aronis brought up a perfectly valid point, and you brush it away because he doesn't know your meta when that's absolutely irrelevant in this scenario. You're trying to enforce the single narrative of what you would do as scum to paint you as solid town because you didn't do that. It's WIFOM 101, bucko.

VOTE: elusive

Metal Sonic · Post Post #1119 (ISO) » Sun Jul 19, 2015 10:39 pm

In post 1110, elusive wrote:I was hoping my suspicion on T ammy would prevent her from being an NK target because once again shes the first day nK target. meh.

I'm very resistant to voting Nacho, what do you think of Ricastle, Aronis and Farside?

Wow, three slots that are at the bottom of the barrel

Ricastle might be town, because I have doubts about him being scum. I only have ongoings with him though

Aronis tends to have very lackluster play regardless of alignment, but I am leaning town because he has tried to put in a little bit of effort

If I had to lynch 1 person from the 3 it would be farside. She clearly has a lot of time but I can't see her being eventful or memorable in this game.

Metal Sonic · Post Post #1120 (ISO) » Sun Jul 19, 2015 10:39 pm

In post 1111, elusive wrote:Don't make me rip off your arm and beat you over the head with it.

Wow tiger girl, that ain't a nice image

elusive · Post Post #1121 (ISO) » Mon Jul 20, 2015 12:49 am

on vla till Thursday, should check in on my phone when I can.

With my Tammy read being off, idk.

I don't like Ric and Aronis push on me esp. Aronis push since day one, no other scumspects or no analysis of the game itself. Bad.

massive · Post Post #1122 (ISO) » Mon Jul 20, 2015 3:02 am

In post 1080, elusive wrote:MS and Start should probably discuss what the horoscope means so we can figure out if farside is confirmed or not, I have doubts.

MS should DEFINITELY not discuss what horoscope he got. I'm not sure how this is even remotely helpful, since their horoscopes have nothing to do with what confirms (or doesn't confirm) farside -- which is how she revealed her horoscope, not the mechanics of the game.

In post 1084, elusive wrote:Who would be stupid enough to think that I would suspect someone all day one and then NK them as scum? Or which scum would think this would be a good strategy to turn suspicion on me?

Why do you immediately assume this is about you?

In post 1086, Mainez wrote:
i'm still on the mindset of lynching aronis!

Why? Did you explain this yesterday?

What always bugs me about people coming in and saying "there's no way I would kill Person X" is that Mafia, for the scum, is a team game, and nightkills are something that get discussed and bartered and disagreed upon. Just because you may be able to honestly say / say with conviction, "I would not have killed Person X" doesn't mean anything. So scumpoints to elusive for trying to use it as a blanket defense and scumpoints to Mainez for believing it wholesale in 1088.

In post 1093, St Constantine the Hermit wrote:BTW, if you get a power by means of the zodiac, and I'm pretty sure that is the only way you can get one, then you HAVE to claim it.

This is ridiculous and I can't imagine any pro-town reason for wanting this information.

Also, what's up with your very bad case of "not actually reading the thread"?

Mainez · Post Post #1123 (ISO) » Mon Jul 20, 2015 3:30 am

aside from the bad requests for people who got their horoscopes today to claim, how come no one asked me what i got from the fortunate horoscope but is trying to get info out of those who got the horoscopes for today? not sure what it means but interesting to point out.

with tammy's town flip, i'm kinda leaning towards elusive as town because of elusive's tunneling at the start and stuff with so much determination. but i remember that when i played as scum before, i tend to openly posts stuff like "hey what do i do now that my strongest scumread is dead bleah", not that this is what elusive did but something along that line like i think it was natural and towny of elusive to assume that scum was trying to so-called "frame" her. the reaction looked genuine. don't think elusive is the right way to go today.

Mainez · Post Post #1124 (ISO) » Mon Jul 20, 2015 3:36 am

In post 1122, massive wrote:
In post 1086, Mainez wrote:
i'm still on the mindset of lynching aronis!

Why? Did you explain this yesterday?

yea i did but nacho's 721 and 722 (on mobile now, hard to link) made me go like mehhhhhh
i haven't played with aronis before but like i really didn't like his play... :/

talking about nacho, i need to re-read nacho, i kinda like how he was trying to engage and understand me but then things got really crazy towards deadline and i need time to re-read those posts.