Mini 1694 -- Zodiac Mafia II (Game Over)


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Post Post #925 (ISO) » Wed Jul 15, 2015 9:20 am

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In post 923, St Constantine the Hermit wrote:Just stop m8. Anyone looking at this thread has to reread page 35 and decide if they want to lynch nacho or not. That is all we have time to discuss. It is to late to start up another wagon, especially one built on such a weak case.

(I haven't written a case.)
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Post Post #926 (ISO) » Wed Jul 15, 2015 9:21 am

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Whatever. This hermit is tired and frustrated. Check ya'll later.
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Book of Constantine (Protestant) 214: 112 - God hates you
Book of Constantine (Catholic) 214:112 - God doesn't like you
Book of Constantine (Orthodox) 214:112 - God tolerates you
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Post Post #927 (ISO) » Wed Jul 15, 2015 9:24 am

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But, massive still looks town.
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Post Post #928 (ISO) » Wed Jul 15, 2015 9:27 am

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In post 919, Nachomamma8 wrote:Actually, two questions:

1) Doesnt this look like KayP trying to use elusive's abrasiveness and dismissiveness (the two things she didn't like) to her advantage?

In post 335, KayP wrote:VOTE: elusive

I dislike the way you're trying to poke at me and throw poo at me.

1. I post a catch up post in which I illustrate what stuck out to me were my reads on Tammy and farside as town. I also said I found Metal Sonic's vote on Tammy suspicious.
2. I am specifically asked by lane on what I thought about him and elusive. I state that I didn't have much of a read on them and that I didn't remember any of elusive's posts that stuck out to me and that I had skimmed them.
3. elusive votes me, STATING the reason is to try and get a reaction and get me to "provide content".
4. I ask elusive what questions he has and what type of content he'd like from me.
5. elusive asks why I can't read the game and comment on what stands out to me. That is
exactly
what I did in #1.

Elusive's push on me isn't genuine. First off, if you're going to vote someone to pressure them into providing content, why would you
announce
that you're doing that? Second off, elusive isn't actually interested in content from me... he's pretending to be interested. If he was actually interested, then he would have known that I already made a post showing what stood out to me on my catch up had he read my posts... or, if he hadn't read the post, then he would've come back with an actual question/narrower frame of reference for his continued questioning of me. He didn't -- he just launched into a bunch of attacks against me (talking down to me as a newbie and implying I'm hungover) that had nothing to do with the game.


2) The reasons she replaced out were mostly due to elusive being a duck to her after the pronoun mistake. You really think that's alignment indicative?


Her entrance into this game seemed a bit more easy-going than that game where she started needling her partner over his hypocritical push and questioning of laladucks right off the bat. She felt in that game like she had something to prove, come out swinging to look like she was a good scum hunting townie, and the arguing with her partner and then her other partner gave her something to do. Then when I replaced in and made my case on Glork and pushed her for the way she went after frogger, she started a wall off with me in which she made a big to do and came across so persecuted, then went in a huff and needed to take a step back before coming back the next day or so and thinking maybe possibly I was town because I looked genuine.

Now it is true that I wasn't a complete jerk to her but she did think I was condescending and she used that to further fuel her conviction over me.

Here, she just gave up, when she could have used that to give her something to argue about and look really persecuted due to elusive's behavior. And elusive was starting to come under some heat as there were a couple of votes on her. She could have appealed to me concerning elusive's treatment and tried to make an ally there, but she just got offended and left.

But if her tactic is to rile up someone who is easy to rile up and apparently elusive is, why not do a similar thing?
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Post Post #929 (ISO) » Wed Jul 15, 2015 9:28 am

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I would be amazed if anybody still has a townread on Nacho after this.

Pedit: That is a pseudo-push. Analysis that surmounts to "Oh they look scum but also look town" is a complete fucking waste of time and serves purely as a distraction to stall your lynch and drive us into a NL.
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Post Post #930 (ISO) » Wed Jul 15, 2015 9:30 am

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In post 929, Ricastle wrote:I would be amazed if anybody still has a townread on Nacho after this.

Pedit: That is a pseudo-push. Analysis that surmounts to "Oh they look scum but also look town" is a complete fucking waste of time and serves purely as a distraction to stall your lynch and drive us into a NL.

You will be amazed how many people have the reading comprehension you are currently lacking.

Analysis like that is my opinion. Sorry if it's a waste of time, it's the observations I have and I'm not sure what to do except for present them so I can talk them out with others.
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Post Post #931 (ISO) » Wed Jul 15, 2015 9:33 am

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Vote: Mainez


I think Mainez and Metal Sonic are the scumteam, hilariously enough.
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Post Post #932 (ISO) » Wed Jul 15, 2015 9:49 am

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In post 17, Mainez wrote:i agree that the daykill is most likely the choice but it's a bit too big of an assumption to assume that scum did choose the daykill.

I think the natural response early game in the "did scum choose the daykill" question was that yes, they chose the daykill. I don't really find the line if thought that Mainez took to be a natural one, especially since she identified that the daykill choice the way we assumed it worked was unequivocally the best choice but still had doubts.
In post 168, Mainez wrote:the second sentence seems to imply that elusive is aware of a certain risk in killing a town player.
firstly, if someone had the daykill, it's either me or scum because i got the fortunate horoscope and scum might have chosen it based on farside's unfortunate horoscope.
so essentially, there is no risk involved for town because scum will wanna kill a town player; obviously there is high risk for scum because that person will be claiming scum should the daykill go through.

This seemed like an oddly semantic thing for Mainez to latch onto. She also tried to warp this into inside knowledge that scum didn't have the nightkill, but that seems like a really bad stretch to me.
In post 313, Mainez wrote:elusive is not pinging my scumdar hard but i'm with tammy on this.

Up to this point, there was a long series of posts where Mainez sort of half-pushed elusive and the culminated in the "you're not looking so town" point. But despite all of the pushes and posts around elusive, Mainez doesn't put a vote down until the vote on Aronis, which came immediately after Aronis said that he didn't want to vote on the elusive wagon alone.

That seems strange to me; Mainez had strong conviction on elusive-scum while the bandwagon was happening but never voted; that looks like Mainez was afraid of actually voting elusive and actively pushing the bandwagon forward until it looked like elusive was the for sure lynch because she didn't want to poke the bear.

Aronis is the much easier vote and suddenly having enough conviction to vote him immediately after the elusive post seems off to me.

It also concerns me that there's so little interaction happening between her and Metal Sonic this game; there's only been the friend town read and nothing more, which looks like defending each other because they can get away with it, especially since they're willing to vote anywhere but each other.
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Post Post #933 (ISO) » Wed Jul 15, 2015 9:52 am

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Actually metal sonic still seems town.

oh well
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Post Post #934 (ISO) » Wed Jul 15, 2015 9:53 am

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I could probably vote mainz. I still don't like
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Post Post #935 (ISO) » Wed Jul 15, 2015 9:57 am

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GROOT is lightefforting
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Post Post #936 (ISO) » Wed Jul 15, 2015 9:58 am

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what do you mean?
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Post Post #937 (ISO) » Wed Jul 15, 2015 9:59 am

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In post 935, startfromtheheart wrote:GROOT is lightefforting
Vote him then...we don't have time for deliberation.
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Post Post #938 (ISO) » Wed Jul 15, 2015 10:00 am

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mainez so far is like a mix of droog and a metal sonic riding his motorcycle
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Post Post #939 (ISO) » Wed Jul 15, 2015 10:02 am

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In post 937, Ricastle wrote:
In post 935, startfromtheheart wrote:GROOT is lightefforting
Vote him then...we don't have time for deliberation.


I'll vote when someone actually reaches L-1. My excuse until then is I'm earnestly trying out my New York City accent.
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Post Post #940 (ISO) » Wed Jul 15, 2015 10:08 am

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In post 934, Tammy wrote:I could probably vote mainz. I still don't like

Vote her then!
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Post Post #941 (ISO) » Wed Jul 15, 2015 10:08 am

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In post 935, startfromtheheart wrote:GROOT is lightefforting

You're correct.
so why did you leave me when I needed you the most?
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Post Post #942 (ISO) » Wed Jul 15, 2015 10:13 am

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Hi massive! Your presence is requested!
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Post Post #943 (ISO) » Wed Jul 15, 2015 10:15 am

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grabbed a bite. I'm only needed to Image
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Post Post #944 (ISO) » Wed Jul 15, 2015 10:17 am

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I could vote Mainez. Best option presented so far.
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Post Post #945 (ISO) » Wed Jul 15, 2015 10:18 am

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Image away!
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Post Post #946 (ISO) » Wed Jul 15, 2015 10:18 am

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VOTE: Mainez
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Post Post #947 (ISO) » Wed Jul 15, 2015 10:23 am

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VOTE: mainez

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Post Post #948 (ISO) » Wed Jul 15, 2015 10:37 am

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Are you shitting me. NOW we vote Mainez? After all this? I don't even.

I'll vote if it is the necessary step to getting a lynch but...god.
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