Mafia 68: Ork - Game over!

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FIRST POST.

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And by that, I mean

VOTE: CURIOUS

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VOTE: COOLBOT

Blatant OMGUS.

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Reading the rules is tech, dude. You might want to try it.

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Wait...Why would you assume that it was the vig that killed the devil. This makes it seem awfully likely that you knew before hand which one the mafia targetted.

VOTE: GUARDIAN

Fer serious, explain yourself.

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It would appear that I have been pwned. If I had fully read the role, I would have noticed that a mafia target on the devil would result in a conversion.

Fuck.


I was so sure too...Thats exactly the kind of thing I look for day one.

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The Wtf the Vote Count is the Same Even After Two Pages Vote Count

Guardian

(4) - Urzassedatives, Sefer, CoolBot, Gorrad

CoolBot

(3) - Guardian, Kinetic, IH

Kinetic

(1) - Mastermind of Sin

Mert

(1) - scotmany12

Not Voting

(7) - Pie_is_good, Khelvaster, Mert, Haut Boy, Yosarian2, spectrumvoid, curiouskarmadog

With 16 alive, it is 9 to lynch!

ok then,

vote Urzassedatives

for lurking

One would think you'd ask for a prod before placing a vote. Interesting that I would be the one you chose to vote.

Secondly, pressuring lurkers on day 1? Is there really nothing better to go on? I've noted this post.

Confirm vote: guardian.

That vote was terrible on a miriad of levels. First, you attacked someone for something that was patently false. There were no other votes on me, so how the heck could it be called bandwagoning for someone to vote me?

Second, you said that your reason was false, and that you agreed with pressuring me, at the same time LEAVING your vote on curious. That makes no sense, if your vote WAS a joke vote, (which makes no sense at this stage of the game or in context anyway.) then I would expect you to unvote it as soon as possible.

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I do not support a mass claim. With two dead that the scum know and we do not, it means the scum have two uncontested fake claims. This means that the "mass claim" will basically confirm two scum, and leave us pretty much high and dry, as the rest, in my opinion, will claim vanilla.

You guys are right, a mass claim would have broken this setup if you had done it with none dead, but the half-reveal is put into this setup pretty much specifically to make that strategy not as effective, and IT IS NOT EFFECTIVE right now. We wouldn't have enough lynches to get rid of all the claimed vanilla, and the two scum confirmed as townies would still win anyway.

Those are my thoughts. That is stone cold logic. Don't attack me for disagreeing with the mass claim, attack the logic.

If anyone attacks me for that, as I have see CKD attacked, I will assume its because you can't beat my logic, and therefore ultimately agree with me.

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Vote: kinetic.

answer his damn concerns.

Assuming a player is anti town just because they disagree with you is not a pro town thing to do.

I am starting, personally to come around to the mass claim line of thinking, however, when a player asks you to answer questions, or point to a specific post where you DID answer them, it is not at all the unreasonable request you're painting it out to be, even if he DID call you a name.

You're coming off looking mighty scummy right here.

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Dear Urza,

I listened to his requests and answered them to the best of my ability while he was being civil. When he began to become uncivilized I asked him to stop that and return to the merits of his conversations. What did he do? He then proceeded to continue to insult me. So yes, I don't care what at all he says because he decided to be uncivil about it. If he wants something, he can do it himself as he will not gain any more assistance of any kind from me.

The fact that you back him up and completely down play the way he attacked me personally is unfortunate; however, I do not care. Vote for me, go ahead, but once I claim you will have absolutely no reason to believe me as scum. I suggest you look back on what has transpired here and realize that IH is in the wrong.

-Kinetic

Dear Kinetic, LIST THE FUCKING POST NUMBERS LIKE HE ASKED YOU TO, AND I ASKED YOU TO.

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And once again I can't play with an alt without posting as my real account. That post is mine. I am an alt of thestatusquo.

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Dude... You are not allowed to decide what posts you do/do not respond to in a game of mafia. If someone makes a legitimate request for information, YOU FUCKING ANSWER IT.

To do anything besides that is simply put: Anti town.

I don't care if a player kicked your mama in the crotch, if they make a request which I consider to be fairly reasonable, and you not only completely disregard it, but also mock them for it, I am going to come after you fairly hard. The fact that you treated me the same way (ignored the original request, and then telling me to get bent when I angrilly restated it) went miles for me in determining who was right in the you/IH debate.

Also, let me point out that you were ignoring IHs requests before he got angry at you, otherwise there would be no reason for him to get angry, so you just lied to the town on top of your anti-town play.

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Just read it all. You didn't even come close to addressing all the points in his first post. You addressed one of them, and then got pissy when he pointed out that there were more.

I count 7 seperate concerns IH raises in his original post. You RESPONDED to one of them, and quotes a response to one of the others. That leaves 5.

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And people are saying that the angel will claim townie as well, which means that they could either be our first lynch target or the first person the vig kills. It also means that the first mafia we pressure will claim that on top of their vanilla, which is terrible.

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Kinetic may be confirmable, but he's still very Wrong.

Don't get me wrong, I'm still strongly in favor of massclaim, and I'm still firmly in favor of castration for all those opposed to massclaim.

But the reason I think it's good is because I see no way for the scum to take advantage of it.

If someone does see a way for scum to take advantage, they should say so.

Seriously, (some) people, asking people to take a massclaim on faith because thinking it through would help the scum is ridiculous. If people have complaints, they can say them, and we'll explain why they're wrong.

And then we castrate them.

How about if the dead body was the cop?

How about if it was the vig?

In either of these scenarios, the mass claim out and out LOSES us the game.

Otherwise, in any other scenario, we lose our vig, and we lose our cop pretty fucking early on, because the mafia kills us, and I don't think we'll have the numbers to clear out the remaining claimed townies if the scum all claim townie.

I think a mass claim is suicide.

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I'm really close to asking to be replaced. I did not join this game to be insulted. If there is disagreement between two sides, one is not "OBVIOUSLY RIGHT" I am capable of doing basic math and running basic scenarios, and a mass claim nets us a small benefit in most scenarios, and it FLAT OUT LOSES THE GAME in others that I have run.

The fact that I am not willing to take a 70-30 chance of losing the game for a couple of confirmed townies does not make me stupid, in fact, it makes me a better player than you are.

Stop insulting people because they disagree with you, and listen to them. Maybe they're not as fucking stupid as you think.

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Wait, did Urza just say what I think he said.

Wow, sucks being insulted, doesn't it?

I would even feel sorry for you if when IH was doing the exact same thing to me, you were saying I was wrong.

Man...It sucks to not comprehend basic logic, doesn't it? It must really suck to be you, then, douche bag.

I attacked you for refusing a request for information, not for not liking being insulted. You can dislike being insulted all you want, in fact, I don't give a rats fuck how you feel about being insulted. If someone asks you for information, you give it. I was not refusing a request for information, and I was not avoiding questions. So like...We're not even close, homie.

Next time, if you want to call someone out for something, you should make some sort of effort to understand the basic conventions of the english language, read the fucking words that are on the screen, and then comprehend what was actually going on.

Maybe if you did that, you would not come accross as a miserable scum sucking shitty piece of garbage who is just seizing on anything to attempt to make me look bad because I didn't agree with you in your attempt to withhold information when MEAN little IH Pished you into the mud.

Fuck you, you ignorant, moronic douche bag. Go lick a cock, and fuck a goat while you're at it.

You dont understand logic, you don't understand mafia, hell, you don't even understand english.

Go fuck yourself, tard.

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No, I wasn't, dickshit. Point out where he asks me for information, and I refuse him. If you can do that, I'll name you person of the world, give you a million cookies, hell, I'll even suck your tiny penis for you.

The only irony here is that you still fail to read the english language.

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