In post 1222, Sonic X wrote:as much as i like your read on me, i think your slot earlier wass haranguing me and calling me scum or something.
so is this an effect of hydra dissonance? or have you reconciled your differences?
In post 1225, Beer wrote:Gordovan doesn't really feel very strongly about your lynch anymore.
Sure.Beer wrote:his play this game lacks a certain pizzaz,
Nope.Beer wrote:or any real interest in solving the game whatsoever.
Saying that I'm voting someone for townreading them, is like saying that you're voting me for scumreading someone. You're tossing out a load of context from that vote and it's annoying >.>.Beer wrote:If you need specifics on this, check out his Sonic X push in 258, where he votes them for town reading him. He doesn't have a whole lot of interaction with them beforehand and he doesn't have a whole lot of interaction with them afterwards 400 posts later in 678, which is not how normal people treat suspects
I actually do feel somewhat good about Fuzzywagon atm. I've just been spending more time on other games and have been busy with a new job. I know excuses are shit at this point and I said if I was playing like trash by now then throw shit my way, but I'm unfortunately not going to be as invested in this game as people would probably like and that probably won't change for a while.Beer wrote:and his pushes on Fuzzy and NicCage aren't really any better or natural (both of them also have throwaway lines as explanations).
You're a gimmicky three headed mystery hydra in a game with 21 people who's original head entered the game by trolling relentlessly. Shocking that it's hard to follow trains of logic to find inconsistencies there or genuine thought processes.Beer wrote:The way he's treating our slot is that "there's so much mist around our slot" to the point where he apparently can't read us, which is quite frankly a fat steaming pile of bullshit. Gordovan joked and posted content. Pawtucket ripped on Gordovan and posted content. There is still readable stuff from both players, and getting out of a read on our slot because of controversy is so ridiculous that it practically has to be a cop out.
In post 1227, Sonic X wrote:In post 1225, Beer wrote:Gordovan doesn't really feel very strongly about your lynch anymore.
why not?
can you explain your hydra's thought process behind the change in read?
In post 1206, Beer wrote:CooLDoG:
CD is a cranky old man who just sort of sits in the corner and yells at everyone for mostly unintelligible reasons. I like it! I'm assuming he's town as a result.
I don't get how you can toss away people saying Fuzzy is playing to his scum meta and then act like you understand his meta here. You think Fuzzy is being loud this game in general?Beer wrote:This seems genuine because it's a lot of thinking about an RVS vote and something that isn't really anything more than an RVS vote; Fuzzy seems the type of player who is pretty foot in mouth and rambly as town and very quiet as scum and this seems like a decent example of the former.
If RB is scum, then sure, this would be kind of hard to see as scum/scum interaction.Beer wrote:it's ballsy to call for a town modkill or yellow card or whatever and it's even ballsier to ask for the same thing on your partner.
Eh.Beer wrote:I find the assertions the fuzzy was pushing for the doublevoters to out the entirety of their roles for some signficiant tactical reason because he doesn't seem like that type of player and because the information is so useless it doesn't really seem worth the effort to get. Him thinking he can confirm their alignment based on the mechanics of his own role makes a lot more sense.
Pft.Beer wrote:The resignation and self-sacrifice for the good of the town also seems town here.
In post 1228, Cheetory6 wrote:Saying that I'm voting someone for townreading them, is like saying that you're voting me for scumreading someone. You're tossing out a load of context from that vote and it's annoying >.>.
Do you genuinely think that it was this simple?
In post 1228, Cheetory6 wrote:I actually do feel somewhat good about Fuzzywagon atm. I've just been spending more time on other games and have been busy with a new job. I know excuses are shit at this point and I said if I was playing like trash by now then throw shit my way, but I'm unfortunately not going to be as invested in this game as people would probably like and that probably won't change for a while.
In post 1228, Cheetory6 wrote:You're a gimmicky three headed mystery hydra in a game with 21 people who's original head entered the game by trolling relentlessly. Shocking that it's hard to follow trains of logic to find inconsistencies there or genuine thought processes.
I've literally walked through your ISO twice before this and got no kind of feeling for whether you're town or scum.
I could pretend?
Would that make me harder to shade?
Let me know.
Because I asked him to explain a townlean and he gave me an entire page of reasons for that townlean, which felt like he might have been sitting on nothing, felt nervous about it when I asked him and then went and got a shit ton of reasons to try and justify that read.Beer wrote:If I add context, your exact vote was because he overexplained a town lean. How is that scummy in any shape or form?
I'll read over those things again and try to give thoughts.Beer wrote:Yes, yes, we're a craaaazy three headed hydra, but here's the thing. Most other people in the game haven't had trouble forming some type of a read on us. Why are you the only one (other than maybe fuzzy) that's so confused by our zany and crazy posting style that you can't even attempt to form a read on us? What do you think of Gordovan's push on Sonic early game? What do you think of the Raging Bull push? What do you think of my readslist? Despite the mystery hydra aspect, we're still people posting things; our ISO isn't a black hole devoid of content and we don't constantly contradict ourselves in a way that makes it excusable to fail to read us completely.
In post 1236, Cheetory6 wrote:I don't get how you can toss away people saying Fuzzy is playing to his scum meta and then act like you understand his meta here. You think Fuzzy is being loud this game in general?
Have you played with him before or read the games linked which showed how he's played in the past?
In post 1236, Cheetory6 wrote:If RB is scum, then sure, this would be kind of hard to see as scum/scum interaction.
I don't agree with him not being scum and asking this though.
In post 1236, Cheetory6 wrote:Pft.
In post 1238, Cheetory6 wrote:Because I asked him to explain a townlean and he gave me an entire page of reasons for that townlean, which felt like he might have been sitting on nothing, felt nervous about it when I asked him and then went and got a shit ton of reasons to try and justify that read.
I started feeling less confident about this when I engaged him on it because it felt like he thought I was asking him to talk at me about why he was town and while that makes absolutely no sense, I don't really get any kind of good feeling as to whether townSonic or scumSonic would be more or less likely to do that.
In post 1238, Cheetory6 wrote:I really don't think I'm going to be able to change my readconfidence level on your slot this early in the game though. That's just the honest truth.
I know it's like super duper protown to overhype confidence in reads and pretend like you're a scumhunting master, but I'm just kind of tired of playing like that. I'll be confident when I am confident about something.
In post 1232, Beer wrote:strongest to weakest
TOWN
vezok, Maxwell, Trench, Grapes, Farside, Sonic, Tunnel, Skybird, Replace In, Mastin, CooLDoG, Fluminator, Bins, Marquis
SCUM
Cheetory, Raging Bull, NicCage, Ricastle, RR
In post 1168, Ra9in9 Bull wrote:In post 1161, CooLDoG wrote:I don't understand the function of alliances, so I don't give a damn. If you want one and haven't gotten on my shit list I would be down.
let's do it.