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Post Post #125 (ISO) » Fri Aug 10, 2007 4:30 am

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distad: of course I was holding back all day -- we're in lynch or lose.

And I was trying to avoid the OMGUS vote. But for now..

unvote


(to avoid the possibility of a quicklynch).
Did I say too much?
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Post Post #126 (ISO) » Fri Aug 10, 2007 4:56 am

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Yeah... but votes had started on Mon. And we're not necessarily in lylo. FWIW, every day is possibly lylo in this format.

I'm sticking with my vote. If there were to be a quick-lynch, I think it would have happened by now.
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Post Post #127 (ISO) » Fri Aug 10, 2007 5:55 am

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Vote Count:


mneme - 2 (pickemgenius, distad)
pickemgenius - 1 (Battle Mage)

Not voting (2): Qman, mneme

3 to lynch.

Searching for a replacement for Qman.
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Post Post #128 (ISO) » Fri Aug 10, 2007 5:59 am

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Xyzzy replaces Qman.
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Post Post #129 (ISO) » Fri Aug 10, 2007 7:00 am

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Hey Xyzzy...

Just a word of caution. Take a few minutes before you come out firing. The game is in a pretty tenuous spot and is a VERY weird format.

That said, I'd love to hear your thoughts (particularly before a vote).
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Post Post #130 (ISO) » Fri Aug 10, 2007 7:34 am

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Indeed.
Did I say too much?
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Post Post #131 (ISO) » Fri Aug 10, 2007 11:31 am

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I am extremely comfortable with a mneme lynch.

Everyone else has contributed a lot; it seems, however, the mneme is saying a lot of words without a lot of meaning... very WIFOMy, and very scummy.

Lyncher is an extremely easy role to fill, because any suspicion you throw out can be disguised as "trying to catch the GF". And mneme's play seems to suggest anything but that.

I'll hold off putting mneme at -1, for now. I want to go back and look at mneme's posts in isolation.
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Post Post #132 (ISO) » Fri Aug 10, 2007 11:38 am

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Okay, I'm pretty sure mneme is the goon.

However, if mneme is the goon, then we really need to find the GF; leaving a GF and a lyncher versus 2 townies is WAY too risky a situation to be worth the risk; we should focus on finding the GF.
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Post Post #133 (ISO) » Fri Aug 10, 2007 11:52 am

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Um... I believe mneme is already at -1.

Also, what do you think about the few of us who found Q-man scummy and thus are suspicious of you?
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Post Post #134 (ISO) » Fri Aug 10, 2007 1:53 pm

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Q-man... I think you're the GF.

You threw your suspicions on mneme but didn't vote him. You didn't want to totally bus your partner yet, but you still wanted to make sure we knew your position on him.

Throwing that out there, stating that you think mneme is the goon, then you suggest we turn away from the goon to pick up on the GF. A last effort to try to keep him alive through one more day.

I'm leaving my vote on mneme because I'm sure that he's scum. I'm not 100% positive that you're scum, but I'd put it up at about 90%. If we lynch mneme, after we see his affiliation/role, I'll know for sure about you.
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Post Post #135 (ISO) » Fri Aug 10, 2007 5:30 pm

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EBWOP: By Q-man, I totally mean Xyzzy.
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Post Post #136 (ISO) » Fri Aug 10, 2007 9:43 pm

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ah welcome Xyzzy. Atm, i have some concerns about a Mneme lynch.
1. its basically unanimous at this point. As such, Mneme is certainly not the GF, and probably not the goon, unless the GF is dumb and decided to bus.
however, its going to be tough to get support for any other lynch today. As such,
Unvote, Vote: Mneme
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Post Post #137 (ISO) » Sat Aug 11, 2007 5:01 am

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Vote Count:


mneme - 3 (pickemgenius, distad, Battle Mage)

Not voting (2): xyzzy, mneme

Aaaand that's a lynch!

You decide to hang mneme from the old oak tree just outside of town. As his body swings, xyzzy pulls out a knife and stabs...

...himself. Straight through the heart. A quick search shows that mneme was the
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DAY 3.
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Post Post #138 (ISO) » Sat Aug 11, 2007 8:45 am

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Oh that's hot!
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Post Post #139 (ISO) » Sat Aug 11, 2007 5:21 pm

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Okay. So, it's pickem, battlemage, and myself, huh?

Hmmm...

So, there are three possible outcomes, as I see it.

1) We lynch the lyncher; town wins.
2) We lynch the target; lyncher wins.
3) We lynch the non-target townie; tie.

I'm nowhere near ready to make a decision on this one. I'm worried about both of you.

I'm leaning toward BM on this one. I read a lot of sincerity in PE's posts and I just get the feeling that BM is the lyncher. I will have to look through everything again. That's just where I am right now. My next readthrough will happen on Monday. I'm taking tomorrow off after a productive Friday/Saturday. :)
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Post Post #140 (ISO) » Sun Aug 12, 2007 8:16 am

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wow nice! :o
I definitely wasn't expecting Mneme to come up GF! lol
For the record, i'm not the lyncher. I'm also pretty sure that i'm not the target. That leaves a choice of which one of you two has gone after the other the hardest. I'll reread and post my thoughts tomorrow.

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Post Post #141 (ISO) » Sun Aug 12, 2007 4:45 pm

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FTR not the lyncher.

Sorry BM for thinking you were scum with mneme.


Atleast I was right about mneme!!
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Post Post #142 (ISO) » Mon Aug 13, 2007 12:18 am

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A lot of early voting between the 3 of us. Pickem puts an early vote on Distad. Distad then votes for me. I then place a vote on Distad. Post 16 by Distad is an odd one. Its merely a joke about being the lyncher target. However it could ofc be an attempt to suggest him being protown. Pickem takes his vote off Distad when he sees him at -1. That just doesn’t seem like something he would do if Distad was his target. Pickem makes several comments about the lyncher, but they don’t seem unreasonable. On the other hand, Distad then changes his stance, retracting his accusation of Piggy being the lyncher, instead suggesting that he was someone elses target. Protesting too much perhaps?
Distad then comments (rightfully) that if Pickem was the lyncher, Distad wasn’t his target. He also tries to place suspicion on me for my post 32. 2 posts later, he backtracks. Pickem puts Piggy at -1. Distad questions his vote, while trying to appear supportive of it.
On the next page, Distad changes his story again, this time to Piggy being the Lyncher, and him being the target. Distads reaction to Piggy coming up town is a little odd. His LoS does answer a few questions though. He puts me at the top, and Pickem at the bottom. Pickems suspicions are again of me and Mneme, with QMan as his choice for lyncher. He seems very certain that he is the target. Then he interrogates QMan, who is pretty non-commital. With hindsight, this was probably because he wanted to keep his claiming options open, however at the time it looked like Pickem trying to get himself an alibi. Then comes my LoS. I was right in having Mneme at the top, but I was dead wrong about QMan. I found it pretty hilarious when Mneme did his LoS, as he thought I was the lyncher and Distad was my target, which I really can’t see. My two top suspects throughout the game have been Mneme and Pickem. I could sort of understand suspicion that I was the lyncher with the latter as my target, but Mneme’s accusation made zero sense to me. Anyway, Pickem then places an aggressive vote on Mneme. Pickem continues to accuse me of being scum, whilst maintaining that Distad is probably town.

In conclusion, my reread has changed my mind about some things. I now think that it is quite likely that I am the target.
I mean look at it this way. If Pickem is the lyncher, it is unlikely that Distad is the target, as he has maintained that he is protown, and avoided lynching him when he had the chance. Similarly, if Distad is the lyncher, Pickem is probably not the target, as Distad placed him bottom of his LoS. Knowing that I am not the lyncher, I feel its now pretty likely that I am the target. Both of you placed me as high on your LoS, but only Distad has yet to threaten a vote on me today. I’d like to see Pickem’s analysis of our situation before going as far as voting, but for now:

FoS: Distad
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Post Post #143 (ISO) » Mon Aug 13, 2007 5:14 am

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Whoa... hold on there, professor...

I have not threatened a vote today. I have simply said that I'm leaning toward you. I am well away from deciding on a vote.

I don't have much of a read for if I'm the target or not. I, too, am not the lyncher. But, if I end up the target, my decision is pretty easy. At that point, if my vote is correct, we win. If it's incorrect, we tie. On the other hand, if I'm not the target, my vote is harder: win or lose.

The one thing I see going against Pick-Em is the early Mneme vote (Die Scum Die). It was SOO confident in a pretty tough predicament. Really, I wouldn't feel as confident with that vote, unless I KNEW that he wasn't the lyncher or the target. There's only one person with that knowledge... the lyncher. It's a good point, but not vote-worthy, yet.
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Post Post #144 (ISO) » Mon Aug 13, 2007 5:25 am

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As for my comment/question in 32, I was giving you a hard time. But, it still needed to be mentioned, at least.

In that same span of posts, Pick-Em had a pretty aggressive bid on Piggy, as well.

I guess that I need to sit down and re-read again. Fortunately, we're not on page 20. ;)
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Post Post #145 (ISO) » Wed Aug 15, 2007 5:04 am

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Sorry, guys. I haven't gotten on that reread, yet. PE will be back around the 20th, so we have a little time to be patient.

I'll get through it by the weekend! :)

I'll also put together a vote-table like I did in our other game, BM.
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Post Post #146 (ISO) » Wed Aug 15, 2007 9:34 am

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lol yeh i remember :)
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Post Post #147 (ISO) » Fri Aug 17, 2007 1:06 am

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WHERE IS Pickem? this is not the time to lurk...
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Post Post #148 (ISO) » Fri Aug 17, 2007 6:56 am

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He said he was going to be away for 10 days. I'm still putting together the vote-table. I'm sick right now, so I don't have quite the same drive for this site... ;)
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Post Post #149 (ISO) » Fri Aug 17, 2007 4:53 pm

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Battle Mage wrote:WHERE IS Pickem? this is not the time to lurk...

I'm all into not voting for me :D.


I would totally set a trap right now if I had the time.

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