Mini 1694 -- Zodiac Mafia II (Game Over)

[Aronis]

Hey guys.

VOTE: startfromtheheart

[Aronis]

Pagetop!

[Aronis]

Am I the only Kitty Kat? I forget what I'm compatible with although I know I get along with Libra's, farside

RVS Questions!
1. What about your sign do you know that is true to your personality\outlook?
2. Pick a player you have played with before in the game and describe their town\scum meta
3. What is town's optimal choice if they receive a fortunate horoscope and why?

1. Everything.

2. Meta sucks. Anybody who's good at playing mafia can manipulate it. And if I said anything about anyone, they'd just adjust their gameplay.

3. Get the dayvig and shoot scum.

[Aronis]

Hey guys.

VOTE: startfromtheheart

Hey, cowboys fan is voting me! Ouch. That hurts.

*ahem*
Roger that.

Also, far and I tend to get along well.

Sorry. I'll unvote. It's nothing personal, I just random.org all my RVS votes now.

UNVOTE: startfromtheheart

[Aronis]

I really doubt that this is actually going to work. I think the mod would have came up with something to avoid the game being broken like this.

[Aronis]

Daykill: elusive

[Aronis]

I really doubt that this is actually going to work. I think the mod would have came up with something to avoid the game being broken like this.

i don't get why you're not willing to go along with this, there's essentially no harm because if you do not have the daykill then all is fine.

I'm doing it, I just think there's a 99% chance it doesn't work. Farside could be lying, I highly doubt they had to pick right away so they could still be discussing it atm, or we could be saying the wrong words.

[Aronis]

I really doubt that this is actually going to work. I think the mod would have came up with something to avoid the game being broken like this.

i don't get why you're not willing to go along with this, there's essentially no harm because if you do not have the daykill then all is fine.

I'm doing it, I just think there's a 99% chance it doesn't work. Farside could be lying, I highly doubt they had to pick right away so they could still be discussing it atm, or we could be saying the wrong words.

Why would you think I'm lying

I don't have any reason to believe you are at this point. But it is a possibility.

[Aronis]

Nacho: how much do you remember from the last run of this game?
Same question to Aronis

I remember it pretty well. I didn't really follow it very much after I died though.

[Aronis]

Pagetop!

[Aronis]

@farside about the daykill thing: I'd have to clarify with the mod about how the daykill would work to make sure town doesn't screw me over by doing this. If I could get it and avoid using it until I wanted it, I would choose it and then save it till LyLo for the insta-win. If not, I'd take the roleblock.

[Aronis]

@farside about the daykill thing: I'd have to clarify with the mod about how the daykill would work to make sure town doesn't screw me over by doing this. If I could get it and avoid using it until I wanted it, I would choose it and then save it till LyLo for the insta-win. If not, I'd take the roleblock.

For one lovely moment, I thought you scumslipped really, really hard.

sorry, I'm town. I can't scumslip.

[Aronis]

Thoughts:

How did Ricastle come to the conclusion that the game is all-vanilla? This seems like inside information to me. I also don't get how he would know mafia didn't have pre-game talk... there's just a lot of info coming out of Ricastle that seems like maybe he assumed everyone knows because it's hard for him to separate himself from what he knows as mafia and what he should know as town.

I think farside is my strongest town read so far... claiming that opposite alignment empowerment thing basically just confirms that she is town if there's a night kill in the upcoming phase, right? Because if she was mafia that got "opposite alignment empowerment" it would mean she couldn't kill. How does this not just make her confirmed town?

I also think Tammy is pretty town for not understanding how things worked... I was confused myself, too, so that speaks to me. Plus, if she was mafia, wouldn't she have had to select an action thing already? So she would know how it works... unless she's faking ignorance, then Tammy is a good town pick for now.

Metal Sonic's reasonless vote on Tammy is highly suspect to me.

And yet there's something about Ricastle asking for explanations that sits with me wrong. It could just be confirmation bias from my read on him already, but something just seems "off" about the way he popped in to kind of stir the flames of three wagons at once.

So that's my catch up... sort of underwhelming. I assumed there'd be more to talk about in 12 pages but I guess not!

VOTE: Ricastle

I think the assumption regarding all vanilla is bc the previous game was all vanilla.

[Aronis]

Pagetop!

We should talk! Although -
Fuel tank is a little empty after that 6 hour marathon last night. Probably same for you!

We should!
That did take alot longer than I expected. It was fun alot of though.

[Aronis]

You should probably give up on your cat pouncing game, you're swatting at air, and I'll do things in my own time and in my own way. I think that should be apparent by now.

Stop being so mousy and passive aggressive. When you're in the mood, let me know what you think about the people who defended you or voted you. Ps I did say I only read your game entrances and some end notes. So be cool.

Also hi Aronis, idk how I feel about all this. Like post breakup return to normality. Did you suicide bomb me in that game with my arch nemesis Marquis? You're a murderer

Nacho,

Hi! Tbh, I don't remember suicide bombing you, but then again. I don't remember alot of people I've killed.

[Aronis]

Ric, I'm not going to have a meltdown and

I'm town as heck

. Also trying to provoke players into meltdowns while seemingly fun also encourages them to keep doing it rather then channeling emotions in more positive fluff GIF and music based ways.

No more meltdowns for me. I can't stop being sassy but am trying to keep on the right side of that line as well.

Which can be difficult.

[Aronis]

I hope to get a daykill, please fates and stuff.

Aronis, you've only seen my good side and town as fuck seemed too much now that I'm reforming myself.

Don't you already have one? Or did you guys pick something else?

My issue isn't the swearing, more the 'town' part of that statement. I think maybe you got it mixed up with scum?

[Aronis]

Actually, you know what, fair enough. Wasn't a remotely confident vote and reading your posts back I'm not seeing what I thought I saw. I'm also not really seeing Tammy scum at the moment unless there's some bombshell evidence I'm overlooking (which tbqh is very possible considering my attention level in this game).

Why don't we all make up and wagon startfromtheheart, eh?

Plz explain why heart is scum?

[Aronis]

Actually, you know what, fair enough. Wasn't a remotely confident vote and reading your posts back I'm not seeing what I thought I saw. I'm also not really seeing Tammy scum at the moment unless there's some bombshell evidence I'm overlooking (which tbqh is very possible considering my attention level in this game).

Why don't we all make up and wagon startfromtheheart, eh?

startfromtheheart is joking around too much, i can't seem to read that lol

pedit: looks like someone's here~

What did you expect from him???

[Aronis]

Good exchange. Alignment indicative.

VOTE: ricastle

I also think that nacho could be scum.

Startfromtheheart can give bert a run for his money. Or is he a Bert alt?

Yeah, he's Bert's alt.

[Aronis]

I hope to get a daykill, please fates and stuff.

Aronis, you've only seen my good side and town as fuck seemed too much now that I'm reforming myself.

Don't you already have one? Or did you guys pick something else?

My issue isn't the swearing, more the 'town' part of that statement. I think maybe you got it mixed up with scum?

Awww...Joe-Ronis baby, if that were true wouldn't Marquis be dead since I did

daykill: Marquis

? Logic. Also, I knew we were in a weirdly awesome cult for what seems like a year but was probably much less, but we did break up before the cult part was over for very legit reasons and stuff and so now its so awkward when you fake scumread me and when I want to totally daykill you, right?



Mainez et al seem to think that at 13 pages in my vote and reads on a player automatically will lynch them which is bizarre. If she isn't scum we'll find out, if she is we'll find out. However, I'm very interested in finding out and seeing what scum hunting tools you seem to operate on.

Ric, startfromtheheart seems to be joking a lot and not doing much and he backed up off to easily on his vote in post #53. He also obviously has some connection to Aronis.

He's not the only one avoiding reads or content or much though.

I'd probably vote KayP instead and hope for some actual content rather then blah blah avatar bleu.

If you think my scumread has anything to do with EtU, you're wrong. I'm not the person who's still mad about that and even if I was, my personal feelings do not impact my game reads. To say that my scumread is entirely fake is ludicrous and I'm certainly not the only person here who has doubts about your alignment.

[Aronis]

VOTE: elusive

should've done that years ago.

[Aronis]

@farside: Startfromtheheart and Sonic are town. Tammy is prob town. Elusive is obvscum.

[Aronis]

You're right, elusive is more like confscum.

Ricastle, I'm sorta leaning scum on atm. Not confident at all about it though.

[Aronis]

Things that elusive failed to mention.
There was more then one scum faction in the game she is referring to.
Second i don't recall ever saying she or he in the game when reffwring to Elusive, yes my memory/ADD is very real

Maybe I'm just really insensitive, but who cares if some1 gets your gender pronoun wrong? I've been called a 'she' countless times.

[Aronis]

i honestly don't know. i just tried looking at u in iso a few hours ago to try and pinpoint what's been bugging me incessantly about your posts. but then your iso makes me think you're bees-town!tammy :/

UNVOTE:

i don't know what direction i should be looking in right now.

your kayp point was good and thinking on that, it's (that slot's) my strongest townread. other than that i have you leaning town now, and nothing else (besides elusive taking everything way too personally and being unnecessarily venomous, but i should be used to it by now)

maybe i should pause and try to get started on a PoE solve.

A good direction to start looking would be elusive. Ricastle is okay too, I guess.

[Aronis]

someone should enlighten me, what was the point of post 387?

only the first 3 sentences seem to be related to this game.

To get you to vote elusive!

[Aronis]

hi aronis.
why is elusive scum
is it because she can be unpleasant and unpleasantness means scum

I'll answer this tonight.

[Aronis]

aronis ISO always stinks

I usually see him more useless as scum. Did this change?

I'm always useless. Haven't you figured that out by now?

[Aronis]

Are you saying my play was better then? Bc I considered moving past the fake cop stuff and self-hammers as town was a good thing.

[Aronis]

So I decided to make my case for elusive scum now, bc I have nothing to do.

So she starts off her ISO by asking RVS questions, which I rarely see, but it's the perfect way for scum to give the appearance of doing something when they really aren't. So that's when my scumread got started. The daykill thing is pretty alignment null, bc she just goes along with it like almost every1 else. Then she requotes her dumb rvs questions to make sure every1 notices them and she gets the towncredit for them.

Following that, she comes out with the most ludicrous sumread I have ever seen on Tammy, because she will not engage on page 8 after having made 7 posts. So honestly I don't see why not engaging people is that scummy unless it's really obvious and extreme and that certainly wasn't the case with Tammy as she had hardly posted and had a chance to engage with people. Then more daykill stuff, which is boring and meaningless.

Next she begins insulting people, which while it's not necessarily scummy and some players just have a reputation for it, I feel like in this case it kind of is, because of the setting. Basically she insults people which 1. makes some people not want to confront her. Re: KayP's replace out. And 2. She starts calling every question dumb and telling people to read what she wrote, etc. Which is an excellent way to avoid answering things.

Then in an attempt to pick apart Marquis reads, she says anyone who has scumreads with only 7 posts is lying, only she somehow forgets she first indicated a scumread on Tammy when she only had 8 posts. So that statement is very contradictory. She also says that you can't have a solid scumread nine pages in, she then votes for Tammy in her very next post. The last post on the ninth page.

Next up, is some other posts which I don't really care about. She does tell Tammy to daykill her, but Tammy had already done that. Which shows that she is obviously not reading things carefully, something she had griped at lane for. Then she decides to insult Tammy for a while. While not really providing any content on why Tammy is scum, just saying tha she is and being very demanding and rude.

Then she gets KayP to replace out. And writes about a nuch of stuff that is super irrelevant.

[Aronis]

Do aronis and elusive have past game or offsite experience together? If so, how much?

Nope. We know each other from a Survivor game where we were best of friends until I backstabbed her.

[Aronis]

There goes the elusive wagon.

UNVOTE:

[Aronis]

Hi massive!

[Aronis]

There goes the elusive wagon.

UNVOTE:

hmm...?

Is there something wrong with unvoting?

[Aronis]

It's kind of odd I'd say. Do you not believe in your case anymore?

I'll vote her again should the opportunity arise. But there's no point atm if I'm the only person.

[Aronis]

Happy Birthday, Aronis!

Spoiler:

Special note for Aquarians: At the Dawn of the Age of Aquarius, at this time, ready or not, your sign is regarded as the zodiac's leader. You are the trendsetter for the future and because of this high responsibility, many under born your sign will be undergoing at this time, the pressure of personal change (particularly in your values and what makes you content and happy). Yours has always been a philanthropic sign. Now more than ever these qualities will be highlighted. Those born under the sign of Aquarius not only march to a different drummer, they make up new music as they go along. They are 'mind oriented' individuals, whose thoughts never stop tick-tocking over. Because of their high focus on intellectual exploration, many inventors, eccentrics and highly original trailblazers are born under this sign. Their intense ability to live on many mental levels, holds both pain and pleasure for Aquarians. For example, in the American Hall of Fame there are more Aquarians than any other sign, yet statistics reveal that in mental institutions there are more Aquarians than any other sign too. Many extremes can surround this sign and these extremes can take them to both heaven and hell.

"There is no instinct like that of the heart." - Lord Byron

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Vote Count 1 - 8

• Metal Sonic (3) ( Mainez - startfromtheheart - Ricastle)
  Ricastle (3) ( Metal Sonic - farside22 - Marquis)
  
  elusive (1) ( massive)
  massive (1) ( elusive)
  Nachomamma8 (1) ( lane0168)
  
  Not Voting (4) ( Nachomamma8 -
  Marquis
  - Tammy - Aronis)

With twelve alive, it takes seven to lynch.
Current Deadline:

(expired on 2015-07-14 18:05:00)

Thanks!

[Aronis]

Wtf is up with the m's wagon?

Mainez's vote is RVS. Ricastle's vote is prob omgus. And idk about SFTH's.

VOTE: mainez

To explain this vote, I shall quote the famous Mainez: " your ISO kind of stinks."

[Aronis]

Ricastle is a good lynch.

VOTE: Ricastle

(That's L-1 for those that can't count)

[Aronis]

I mean I think you unvoting is pretty townie of you but I just don't see what else there is. This game has declined to a snails pace ya know?

Unless you want to analyze the wagon?

She just having second thoughts about bussing her partner day 1, that's all.

[Aronis]

After that I think metal and nachos reactions to it are the second scummiest. Both tried to lead us to believe they could pm it to the mod and their reactions seem the weirdest in general imo.

But why would they lead us to believe that if they were scum and knew they HADN'T picked the day kill?

Do you think elusive is scum?

What's your read on Ricastle?

[Aronis]

VOTE: marquis

i am getting cold feet about the ricastle wagon

again

Why is Marquis scum?

[Aronis]

Pagetop!

[Aronis]

Ugh why does it speak to us?

Ric, your "give up" attitude is bizarre and I've never seen it in your town games so idk but its quite heartbreaking and you going to get slayed for it which if you're town (like in the words of Buzz Lightyear)

I'm probably just super oblivious, but who or what is 'it'?

[Aronis]

massive has not done as promised which is a bad start
nacho was cool for a moment but then disappeared
tammy is being petulant and reducing the value of their posts by being so
startfromtheheart is awol and has not yet done as promised either

aronis has yet to make a solid post that is meaningful
ditto marquis

there are some other people

im scared to agree with metal sonic and farside so idk

ricastle is being all tragic and will probably be the lynch

counterwagon time?

Not make a solid post? Try reading this. I put alot of time and effort into that for people to just ignore it. I don't write walls(aka a post with more than three sentences) often and I'd like them to be appreciated when I do.

[Aronis]

Wtf is up with the m's wagon?

Mainez's vote is RVS. Ricastle's vote is prob omgus. And idk about SFTH's.

VOTE: mainez

To explain this vote, I shall quote the famous Mainez: " your ISO kind of stinks."

how is my ISO stinky?

It's certainly not any better than mine. At least I have the common sense to not be RVS voting on page 20.

[Aronis]

It's kind of odd I'd say. Do you not believe in your case anymore?

I'll vote her again should the opportunity arise. But there's no point atm if I'm the only person.

shouldn't you push a lynch for who you think is scum?

Ricastle is a good lynch.

VOTE: Ricastle

(That's L-1 for those that can't count)

why? you haven't even said anything about ricastle except in 354 which you are not confident at all about it and in 391 where you guess that ricastle is an okay direction to look at.

Have you heard of this thing called a deadline? And what about boredom? Bc that combination makes me willing to lynch about anyone.

[Aronis]

PROD

DODGE

(Whatcha gonna say bout that?)

(That you are using a loophole to avoid following the activity rules and should be modkilled?)

[Aronis]

Town should talk about scum reads.
If you don't you look like scum aTe.

I'm torn because the wagon has stalled and scum could have jumped on the wagon if ric was town. Seeing that not happen I'm Leanimg ric scum.
Frankly I know he is better then this

Okay! Elusive is scummy, Mainez is scummier, Ricastle is scummiest!

So lets lynch Ricastle!

[Aronis]

about time i get out of my RVS vote too

VOTE: Aronis

*past (not 'about')

I would be cheering for you for such an accomplishment as getting out of the rvs phase before page 25, but I'll save the appluase for after your speech explaining your scumread.

[Aronis]

PROD

DODGE

(Whatcha gonna say bout that?)

(That you are using a loophole to avoid following the activity rules and should be modkilled?)

I was expecting Nacho to say something about it, but he didn't even come in here.

VOTE: nachomamma

He'd probably say 'I AM GROOT'

[Aronis]

massive has not done as promised which is a bad start

I made it to page 12 and have kept current with posts since I replaced in. I usually abhor computers on the weekend and this is easily proven out by looking at any of my other games. So, to put it politely, stuff a sock in it, Potsy.

Wow! You're lucky to have such a long weekend! At least you should be able to finish catching up on Monday and Tuesday before it's your weekend again.

[Aronis]

That won't help me feel better about him!

Also, I'm going to try to get caught up here tonight but I have grading to get caught up on before I do that, so there's a good chance I don't get caught up until tomorrow.

Maybe he'll say 'We are Groot' then?

That would be something!

[Aronis]

I'll be around soon!

I'll believe it when I see it.

[Aronis]

So Massive, is setting himself up to be useless this game. I suggest we lynch here.

I'd like massive's thoughts on the game since they were catching up\replaced in.

Me too. Today has been a killer in the office and I'm barely popping in to keep up with current events, but I should have some downtime at the weekend to roll around in it.

massive has not done as promised which is a bad start

I made it to page 12 and have kept current with posts since I replaced in. I usually abhor computers on the weekend and this is easily proven out by looking at any of my other games. So, to put it politely, stuff a sock in it, Potsy.

One of these is a lie, guess which one? So yeah Massive, try taking your foot out of your mouth before BSing.

VOTE: Massive

I'm not going to move my vote. He had one decent post and then set himself up for not posting during the week (blah work busy) and the weekends (blah no computer busy).

Tammy, Groot, etc...same thing goes for you.

@RedCoyote - If there is a place for me on this site to start or post something about lurking and active lurking and how it seriously ruins games, please let me know. Otherwise, I agree with Aronis that posting to avoid the rules (prod dodge) should be a mod force replace event. It's frustrating for people trying to actually play the game.

(You should go play in Mastin's games, she has the best rules about lurking)

[Aronis]

I'm not going to move my vote. He had one decent post and then set himself up for not posting during the week (blah work busy) and the weekends (blah no computer busy).

Can you explain your turnabout in scumhunting style? You vote Tammy for essentially her meta of replacing-in tactics but you just low-fruit swing away at me without bothering to look at mine? Is it due to Tammy's reputation on-site compared to mine?

I would care to respond but I don't respond to liars who don't have time for the game, but wait you suddenly seem to...

Also try getting your facts straight, "meta of replacing-in tactics" is def. not why I scum read her slot. I still find her scummy, her continuing play and dance with nacho is scummy. There is something off about Tammy but because of her on-site reputation people aren't going to look at her or prod her today. So, yeah.

Reputation matters zilch to me on this site and life in general, I make my own decisions about people\objects based on direct interactions. My death glare is legendary.

It's funny how instead of you know catching up or posting thoughts, with deadline looming, you're still posting without content....magnificent...

Wait a minute. You say they reputation doesn't matter, but then you're not willing to look at Tammy today because of her on-site reputation?

[Aronis]

Elusive moves to a town read.

:sigh:

[Aronis]

Bump.

[Aronis]

Another Pagetop for me!!!

[Aronis]

massive is conftown.

[Aronis]

Aronis - Do you prefer scum or town?

Well roles are random, so it doesn't matter! In Greater Idea, UPicks, etc. I've started going with town. I tend to have better success as scum, but pretty much everyone does. So I'll say town, bc answering anything other than that would be foolish.

[Aronis]

@RedCoyote - If there is a place for me on this site to start or post something about lurking and active lurking and how it seriously ruins games, please let me know. Otherwise, I agree with Aronis that posting to avoid the rules (prod dodge) should be a mod force replace event. It's frustrating for people trying to actually play the game.

I'm generally a hands off sort of mod, but I am not afraid to take action at my discretion. I do not think action is necessary at this time, but your frustrations are duly noted.

Yeah, that wasn't really for this game although I was worried this was going to be another one of them, its just been a string of games with super hard lurking and even if people hit there 3 strikes they're still lurking. In Horses town and scum lurked so hard, scum win was inevitable through NKs which that kind of game should not exist.

Tammy, I can't mention ongoing games which is the saddest rule of all. So, you should probably catch up or whatever don't really care.

Aronis, the posting without any content is seriously annoying.

Sorry! I can always replace out if you'd like! Otherwise you're just going to have to live with it, because I'm not changing my playstyle anytime soon.

Fixed quote tags.

[Aronis]

Aronis - Do you prefer scum or town?

Well roles are random, so it doesn't matter! In Greater Idea, UPicks, etc. I've started going with town. I tend to have better success as scum, but pretty much everyone does. So I'll say town, bc answering anything other than that would be foolish.

I remembered your activity in signs and void as being less than it actually was. I thought there was a discussion about how you're easy mislynch bait because of your lack of activity, which would make your activity here a little concerning. If you preferred playing scum and lurked as town, then your activity here would be worrying, but you were more active than I remember you being, and that was a large. I'll need to go back to that game and look at the discussion about you tonight to make sure I'm not remembering things wrong.

Activity is based more on how much time I have to play Mafia and how many games I'm in, than alignment. Right now it's summer(so no school) and this is the only game I'm in, so I'm going to post alot. Plus in that game I fell really far behind and lost interest.

[Aronis]

There was only one game, with fferyllt where I read like ten games she was in because she was wily and correctly meta read her as scum based on language use (in my wiki, newbie games probably my favorite game of all time on here). However, most of the time I only need a few (3-4) games to figure out "voice." I may be wrong about his meta but I feel good about my read on nacho until further notice.

I've also stated who I don't feel good about: Ricastle (can you link to your most recent completed scum games because that last post only added to your scumminess), lane and Aronis for echoing each other\lane for switching from me to nacho after he defended my slot and aronis for being hyperactive and also scumreading me without any basis (or even reference to lets say the last mafia game we were in together). Marquis for lurking.

I'm not big on meta and you were an innocent child that got suicide bombed day 1, so I don't really consider that a great game to use as meta even if I was big on it.

[Aronis]

Let's lynch Mainez then!

VOTE: Mainez

[Aronis]

You're lot like bookittty, Tammy. Its good though its like a primer on how to be scum while being pleasant.

You should try to figure out how to be pleasant as scum. Of course you're not really pleasant as town either.

Nacho's scum btw.

[Aronis]

VOTE: nacho

[Aronis]

Hermit, claim please.

Don't claim please. You're only at L-2 and this is just scum trying to out as many power roles as possible. Tyvm.

[Aronis]

L-2 is L-2.

[Aronis]

Then why are you? You're not ika and you're not town.

[Aronis]

VOTE: elusive

I'd more than happily lynch Mainez as well.

[Aronis]

If I were scum I would have killed Nacho and done some drama about my tragic heroic champion lost to the vileness of scums.

I find discussing who you would've nightkilled to be very sketchy. IF you're town, you have no reason to think about nightkilling anyone, on the other hand if you were scum wanting to use the nightkill to benefit your standing with the town, then you just made the perfect choice in Tammy. You can say you suspected her and pretend nacho is some sort of god, when in all reality he got ran up at the end of day 1 and because of that would be an awful decision.

[Aronis]

? Isn't it MetalSonic and Startfromtheheart?

Also Aronis, you are trying hard to fit a narrative to me which is disturbing. Either you're scum or you're bad town.

I mean the fact that you're trying to decide what I would think or do as town or scum when SON YOU DONT KNOW ME is in itself bizarre.

You are attempting to use meta to discredit everything I say, rather than using an actual argument. And you're not even backing up your statements with meta that suggests you'd do otherwise as scum in this situation, which could make somewhat of a vaild point. Instead you just use my lack of knowledge about your meta to basically trash my read repeatedly.

[Aronis]

on vla till Thursday, should check in on my phone when I can.

With my Tammy read being off, idk.

I don't like Ric and Aronis push on me esp. Aronis push since day one, no other scumspects or no analysis of the game itself. Bad.

I don't think you know my gameplay either though, so how do you know I tunnel as scum/don't tunnel as town? Oh wait, you don't. So fuck off.

[Aronis]

Hey guys.

[Aronis]

Wait, did I die?

[Aronis]

No, only Tammy is dead. We had a stalemate D1, and it is looking like we have a stalemate again today. Break the stalemate and vote for Nacho, that guy is scummy as shit if you look back at D1.

Is he at L-1?

And what are your offering in exchange for voting nacho?

[Aronis]

VOTE: nacho

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[Aronis]

mod, what happens to the day 3 fortunate horoscope now that farside is dead?

VOTE: mainez

[Aronis]

I'm already guessing that it is a daykill or roleblock.

Not a daykill. We tried to out scum daykill day 1 and Mainez would've had to use his

And that foolproof plan is mod-guaranteed to work, right?

[Aronis]

I'm already guessing that it is a daykill or roleblock.

Please explain how this speculation helps anyone? Couldn't you just do it in your scum PT? Or do you not have daytalk?

[Aronis]

VOTE: Ricastle

So I have it on good information that Ricastle and Massive are scum. Telepathy isn't supposedly against site rules.

Since you're into PR fishing. Is this a cop crumb?

[Aronis]

Metalsonic, your horoscope, what was it?

The obvious scum continues to be obvious.

VOTE: Constantine

[Aronis]

That was a long five day night. Five. What if nights in real life were 120 hours....

It was a nice breather from mafia though.

VOTE: ricastle

Are we going to have to wait 120 hours for your explanation on why you're voting town? (Please try to make this somewhat difficult for us townies, okay?)

Pagetop!

[Aronis]

I just had 120 hours of sleep! Why would I need anymore?

[Aronis]

I'm already guessing that it is a daykill or roleblock.

Not a daykill. We tried to out scum daykill day 1 and Mainez would've had to use his

And that foolproof plan is mod-guaranteed to work, right?

What? Is the a reason why it wouldn't have worked?

Any halfway decent mod would have something in place to prevent the game from being broken so easily and to expect that you can outsmart the mod like that is incredibly foolish. For all we know, it needs to be submitted privately or the wording is different.

[Aronis]

So what have I done that's scummy? Why are you voting me?

My points from voting you yesterday still sit fine with me. Having you pop in today and latch onto the point I made yesterday about Constantine doesn't hurt either.

The obvious scum continues to be obvious.

Can you explain a little more about your vote? As far as I can see in your ISO, this is the first time you've mentioned even being remotely suspicious of him.

PR fishing.

[Aronis]

I'd sheep Nacho, actually. I'd like to see the head of the teddy bear cut off and put on a pike. But in this game there are many people who would look better drawn and quartered.

(You forgot to vote the teddy bear)

[Aronis]

i think this is the way to go
VOTE: St Constatine the Hermit

Well at least now I know one wagon I don't want to be on.

UNVOTE: Constantine

[Aronis]

Mod, I'm sorry, but can you please replace me? Thanks.