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[Haut Boy]

Since when does a pressure vote=scummy?

[deadscilent]

You want an answer from me so you vote me to see what Ill do... yeah I've used that line before.... when I was SCUM!

mhm.

[NabakovNabakov]

And I use it all the time as town. Pressure can be a useful thing. (For one, it got you off the hook.)

[deadscilent]

Very true.

hmm.

I dont know quite yet, but Im still keeping my vote haut.

[Atticus]

"Been a while since a"
Vote Count

deadscilent

(2):

Adel, Erotomachia

Blue Zebra

(2):

Albert B. Rampage, NabakovNabakov

Sir Tornado

(1):

Patrick

Albert B.Rampage

(1):

camisade

Haut Boy

(1):

deadscilent

Not Voting (5): kravhen, pickemgenius, Haut Boy Blue Zebra, Sir Tornado,

[kravhen]

Pressure votes CAN be a good thing, DS.
I got a weird vibe from HautBoy's unvote post. He kept an aggressive stance and vote on DS for getting and answer, and then he unvoted because he had "somewhat" of an answer. Maybe im overreacting, but sometimes I feel little details are sometimes those that mean alot. I then looked back at Deadscilent's answer and not only is it confusing, I also don't see how a kind of answer like that from her could easily satisfy your previously strong thirst for "an answer". It gives me the feeling you're scum that followed an unvoting bandwagon.

Vote: Haut Boy

[Adel]

unvote:deadscilent vote:Haut Boy

I'm aboard.

[kravhen]

Also, i wanna hear more from camisade. Sometimes scum start to slowly post less and less when there's a deadline and slowly vanish from our sight.

[NabakovNabakov]

I almost totally forgot we were under deadline.

Mod:

I would like to respectfully request a deadline extension. I don't think the town is at a decision making stage right now.

[Patrick]

Mod: I would like to respectfully request a deadline extension. I don't think the town is at a decision making stage right now.

Definitely seconded.

Blue Zebra seems to be being called scummy frequently, and I wonder if I'm just missing something obvious that others are seeing. A quick glance at another game where he was town doesn't turn up any obvious differences in posting style, and I don't really find anything he's said to be scummy, so I'm not seeing it personally.

For 16 pages, this game doesn't have that much content, so I can agree with NabNab that we're not close to reaching a consensus. I haven't really seen a reason to remove my vote from Sir Tornado, but Adel is starting to catch up with him; she seems pretty oppotunistic in this game, especially the previous DS vote with the stated reasoning that DS was trying to act cute (which I don't agree with and seems a stretch). I hope Atticus will clarify soon what he's doing, if the deadline stands we'll have to place our votes fairly quickly, and possibly make compromises. If we need more than two people asking for an extension then I expect others to do it.

[Sir Tornado]

Adel... why are you unvoting an person you have just built a case against? Because no one is buying it...?

What is your rationale for voting Haut Boy? Pressure vote?

[Adel]

Adel... why are you unvoting an person you have just built a case against? Because no one is buying it...?

What is your rationale for voting Haut Boy? Pressure vote?

I am starting to think of ds as being a potential VI. I'm not really committed to voting for Haut Boy, but I am interested in being a part of the wagon on him because I am interested in where it is going.

[kravhen]

I'm not really committed to voting for Haut Boy, but I am interested in being a part of the wagon on him because I am interested in where it is going.

You do roll crazy.

[pickemgenius]

I'm not really committed to voting for Haut Boy, but I am interested in being a part of the wagon on him because I am interested in where it is going.

You do roll crazy.

Hey you.

I say that.

[Albert B. Rampage]

^

noob

[Haut Boy]

Pressure votes CAN be a good thing, DS.
I got a weird vibe from HautBoy's unvote post. He kept an aggressive stance and vote on DS for getting and answer, and then he unvoted because he had "somewhat" of an answer. Maybe im overreacting, but sometimes I feel little details are sometimes those that mean alot. I then looked back at Deadscilent's answer and not only is it confusing, I also don't see how a kind of answer like that from her could easily satisfy your previously strong thirst for "an answer". It gives me the feeling you're scum that followed an unvoting bandwagon.

Vote: Haut Boy

Of course I would like a better answer from her

(and I still want it BTW)

, but I was trying to get her to respond, mostly. I could have unvoted the post after I voted her, seeing as it took me about three posts before she finally gave some kind of answer (in other words, the pressure clearly didn't serve its purpose).

[Adel]

I then looked back at Deadscilent's answer and not only is it confusing, I also don't see how a kind of answer like that from her could easily satisfy your previously strong thirst foanswerr "an ". It gives me the feeling you're scum that followed an unvoting bandwagon.

Here is a possible explanation: ds and HB are scum together, HB was on the ds wagon as part of a scum distancing maneuver. Once given a slight opening to unvote he did. I've only played in one completed game where a VI was part of a scum group (Monks and Masons, where dylan was scum, a link is on my wiki page) and I'm interested in figuring out what the standard scum reaction is to having a VI in their scum group. Any difference seems pretty subtle to me right now.

[Sir Tornado]

I am starting to think of ds as being a potential VI. I'm not really committed to voting for Haut Boy, but I am interested in being a part of the wagon on him because I am interested in where it is going.

What do you mean by you are interested in where HB wagon is going?

[Adel]

I am starting to think of ds as being a potential VI. I'm not really committed to voting for Haut Boy, but I am interested in being a part of the wagon on him because I am interested in where it is going.

What do you mean by you are interested in where HB wagon is going?

This game has been

slow

compared to what I am used to. Stirring the pot seems like a good idea to me, and HB is a bit scummier than other players right now, but there hasn't been enough interaction for me to be really confident of anyone's alignment.

[NabakovNabakov]

@HB, if you took your vote off because you didn't get a (satisfactory) answer, why did you say you took your vote off because you got an answer?

Whether it was distancing, or it looked like the DS wagon was falling apart, it feels like HB's unvote was far more... tactical than anything else.

FOS: HB

[camisade]

I am starting to think of ds as being a potential VI. I'm not really committed to voting for Haut Boy, but I am interested in being a part of the wagon on him because I am interested in where it is going.

What do you mean by you are interested in where HB wagon is going?

This game has been

slow

compared to what I am used to. Stirring the pot seems like a good idea to me, and HB is a bit scummier than other players right now, but there hasn't been enough interaction for me to be really confident of anyone's alignment.

I don't think the game has been very slow, it's just we've had 16 pages and none of it has really added up to a good case against anyone.

[deadscilent]

Agreed.

FOS Adel.

[Haut Boy]

Here is a possible explanation: ds and HB are scum together, HB was on the ds wagon as part of a scum distancing maneuver. Once given a slight opening to unvote he did. I've only played in one completed game where a VI was part of a scum group (Monks and Masons, where dylan was scum, a link is on my wiki page) and I'm interested in figuring out what the standard scum reaction is to having a VI in their scum group. Any difference seems pretty subtle to me right now.

You're barking up the wrong tree with me, though that could be a plausible theory for others who went after DS (don't know who did off the top of my head, though).

@HB, if you took your vote off because you didn't get a (satisfactory) answer, why did you say you took your vote off because you got an answer?

Whether it was distancing, or it looked like the DS wagon was falling apart, it feels like HB's unvote was far more... tactical than anything else.

I flirted with the idea of asking for a more satisfactory answer, but when I posted yesterday, it didn't seem like DS was going to give me anything better. Speaking of DS:

Agreed.

FOS Adel.

I don't see how Adel is scummy from what SirTornado brought up. Seems like you're the opportunistic one, really.

[Haut Boy]

Except that, of course, that wasn't an actual vote on Adel.

[Adel]

I don't think the game has been very slow, it's just we've had 16 pages and none of it has really added up to a good case against anyone.

That ='s a slow game in my book.