New York 185: Freshwater Frenzy!

[SilverWolf]

Boon-I honestly can't understand your not wanting to have more discussion today.

What are you going to do if lala flips town?

What information are you going to have to use to scumhunt with if we quicklynch lala today?

I seriously do not understand your mindset.

@House-you need to explain yourself and engage in the game. What did you mean when you said will you pricks stop roleblocking me because it looks like you are saying you were roleblocked more than once. That's pretty much impossible if you commuted N1.

How about you play the game.

How much have we heard from delta so far? Has anyone got a read on him? I'm not blaming him since he replaced into a large game but does anyone want the guy to get a chance to speak?

No one commented on my Varsoon associations. I mean seriously, people.

I am wondering if most of the issues with lala is personality more than anything. I mean everyone thought she was connected to Titus. Titus flipped SK so obviously isn't connected to lala.

la la could be scum, but how about someone lay out some real points on her outside of her anti-town play, she's looking more like a PL than anything to me

I'm not going to be able to really play this game if all we do is rush everything all the time.

[SilverWolf]

oh come onn

Shhhh...............................bah posts are not allowed.

[Taly]

^ Seems like bussing to distance himself from partner. Also, TownWolf is very easily manipulated by ScumHouse. I believe Wolf to be super town.

Can you at least ISO me and tell me what about my interactions suggest some form of partnership with Lala? We've both scumread each other for most of the game so far.

I would like some more time given to the day today rather than quicklynching lala while she's on V/LA. I feel like yesterday went kind of quick with the Titus drama and I'd like more time to ISO people and do some re-reading and try to figure a few things out. I'd like to ISO TSO and anen as well.

House and Silver are giving me some weird vibes with their interactions.

Anenien also had some interactions with Silver and House.

In any case these names are catching my attention quite a bit:

Kitz

,

House

,

Silverwolf

and

lalaladucks

**I also find in interesting that Silver was on the Lalaladucks wagon in D1. 1701 >>> Gives me some confidence in these reads.

Elaborate on all of this.

-What weird vibes are you getting from House and myself? You and Kitz have both thrown shade at me over this so I would like this explained.

-Why is Kitz on your name of people who is catching your attention?

-What interactions between myself and anen and House in particular are of importance to you? Start with me. Then House.

-Why is my vote for lala D1 important?

I don't like the idea of quicklynching Lala much either, but voting her seems to be a good start for the day.

1)

The weird vibes I get from you? I don't believe I've thrown shade at you, sorry if it seemed like I did - could you quote? However, you and House have both gotten into arguments with each other twice in this game so far. TSO suggested that one of you were town and scum - and he was killed.

By this idea, it's possible that one of you were responsible of his death. It doesn't make my theory correct, but it does give strength to it. Sorry if this isn't making much sense, I tend to look more into peoples deaths/flips and understand who killed them more than a lot of other people on this site.

Basically, I'm getting weird vibes suggesting that you and House are possible suspects, seeing how you both have interacted with the people who were killed so far, and how you both have been against one another at a few points.

2)

House tunneled Kitz D2. Anenien sheeped House for a small bit in D2. 1766 There's a few parallels here, I find the intention of continuing to tunnel Kitz in D2 to be scummy.

This sounds crazy, but I think Scum-House would kill someone who would follow their wagon for a short period of time, it'd give him credit and preserve him as scum for later. Since you know... House said he was already playing in a survivalist mindset. 392

Despite me thinking Kitz is was likely scum at one point, my read on her is becoming a bit null, and I don't think she's a strong possibility of scum as opposed to people like House and Lala. Ultimately, it makes me think Kitz would have some sort of relation to a few peoples flips here.

TSO also townread Kitz, so that's something I feel that needs to be brought up.

3) and 4)

<<<< These two points work together.

1438 and 1444

These posts were the second time where you and House butted heads. The first was near his entrance where you guys spoke something about intimidation and how anti-town the other was seeming.

But about these posts - it was mostly about you calling out House that his reasons for voting Lala were bad, and Lala was most likely scum. I believe that it is really unusual for House to ever really defend someone like this though, which makes the suspicions valid and more likely. Overall, I wouldn't be surprised if House and Lala were scumbuddies, but even then - I wouldn't understand why he'd go that far for Lala.

Lynching one of them would give insight on the other. Your vote on Lala D1 was important because you weren't on the Ozgin wagon 1701 but House was

But you were on the Titus wagon 2041 - whereas, House was bussing Kitz.

Houses motives seem to scream of scum him. I'm also thinking that if House/Lala are scum, you're even more likely town - even though I'm already thinking you're likely town right now despite my suspicions.

I see absolutely nothing in the TSO iso that would seem to be motive for a kill, Taly. I actually asked Cheetory in our neighborhood if he could think of any motive. That seriously looks like a randomized kill.

This is still likely but meh... If TSOs kill did mean anything, then it'd work with my thinking that one of House/Lala/Silver/Kitz are people that need to be looked at.

>>>>>

Not liking recent posts from House, will look and digress but I'm having to go do some things right now.

[RadiantCowbells]

I'm not ready to lynch House over the setup spec.

I think the TSO kill may have been specifically targeted at the neighbourhood; maybe there's a heavy proportion of one scum team in it and they want to clear it out?

[Cheetory6]

Yeah because TSO was really putting on the pressure in there with his like two posts.

[Cheetory6]

Good work Drixx.
We made it much easier to be able to continue to do nothing in the neighborhood by killing TSO.
*high five*

[RadiantCowbells]

Or, maybe there's no members of one scum team in there, and they still want to clear it out.

[Cheetory6]

Also, I think the gist of the reasoning behind House being scum atm is that he was implying he was roleblocked two nights in a row, which he would have no way of actually knowing if he'd actually commuted on N1.
Not really sure what to make of that yet.
Intending to make an actual post sometime today if I actually don't feel like complete shit later.

[House]

I was all set to vote lalaladucks today while waiting for the titus flip, but with her flipping SK I'm not sure lalala is the best choice.

I think Dragon has a good point on House.

Then you're an idiot.

[SilverWolf]

@Taly-The reason I am forcing you to explain yourself is because I feel like you are being reachy and I've gotten that vibe from many of your posts this game. Associations without a flip are worthless as well.

You never explained what interactions between myself and anen concerned you. And why are my interactions with House weird? I dare you to find a game we have played in together where we don't bicker with each other. But what does that tell you exactly?

[Cheetory6]

Oy house.
Can you like.
Respond to dragon's 'slip' on you?

[RadiantCowbells]

Mickey mouse
built a house

how many Drixx did he use?

[House]

@House-you need to explain yourself and engage in the game. What did you mean when you said will you pricks stop roleblocking me because it looks like you are saying you were roleblocked more than once. That's pretty much impossible if you commuted N1.

You're being as dense as dragon.

If something happened, even if it's one fucking time, and I don't want it to happen anymore, I'll ask you to please stop doing it.

What kind of fucked up morality issues de you people have if you think "Please stop doing that" requires more than one transgression?

<Man sexually assaults woman>
Woman: Please stop doing that!
Man: You can't say that yet!
Woman: Oh, sorry...
<Man sexually assaults woman again>
Man:

NOW YOU CAN SAY THAT!

[RadiantCowbells]

I agree with you in principle but I don't like your response because I don't see how it's a morality issue at all as opposed to an issue of logic.

[House]

Oy house.
Can you like.
Respond to dragon's 'slip' on you?

Yeah: He's an idiot.

Next?

[RadiantCowbells]

What kind of fucked up morality issues de you people have

seems out of place and forced as a result.

Even though prior to this I put absolutely no stock in that logic.

[Cheetory6]

That would be fantastic if you asked people to stop asking you about it?
Instead you're just kind of using a really offensive example that doesn't really even work here. -.-

[House]

I agree with you in principle but I don't like your response because I don't see how it's a morality issue at all as opposed to an issue of logic.

IT IS AN EXAMPLE THAT ILLUSTRATES THAT IT DOES NOT TAKE MORE THAN ONE FUCKING OFFENSE FOR SOMEBODY TO SAY STOP YOU BUFFOON.

[Cheetory6]

Oh wait I understand.
That explanation just kind of sucks.
You surely understand why Dragon thinks that was a slip and I don't think he's dumb for it.

[RadiantCowbells]

Yeah, but the crux of it is that it's not a morality issue.

It's an issue of ridiculous logic.

I don't see how you go from that to calling other people immoral for using bad logic.

[House]

Oh wait I understand.
That explanation just kind of sucks.
You surely understand why Dragon thinks that was a slip and I don't think he's dumb for it.

Obviously I don't.

dragon is a lawyer, so I put the explanation into terms that he would understand.

[RadiantCowbells]

Unless you meant philosophically as in it would create issues related to morality.

[SilverWolf]

House-is it at all possible for you to address questions without insinuating I'm dense or an idiot?

[House]

House-is it at all possible for you to address questions without insinuating I'm dense or an idiot?

Is it at all possible for you to not swallow the flimsiest assertions against me without thinking them through first?

[RadiantCowbells]

SilverWolf, I don't think you're dense at all.

In fact, I'd say you're at least 99.999% empty space.