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[pieguyn]

and correct me if I'm wrong but I thought I remember you prefer scum over town

:/

[pieguyn]

the one paranoid thought I have here that I want to get out, just in case, is that if you squint a lot DW's actions make some sense for scum

OTOH, you have the STD push D1, him voting TH instead of Thor at the end of D1 (although as I said his explanation was fine), and him attempting to push jason on D4. I'm still kind of weirded out by the STD push, to be honest. mostly I just don't get why he came out full force and then... completely phased out and didn't push anyone else in that manner the rest of the game.

but this is just more a paranoid thought than anything. I don't really think his play looks scummy.

[pieguyn]

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=60922 - Mala scum with goodmorning - had a weak town read on her most of the game. asked her exactly one softball question near the middle of the game in order to distance with no actual push.

I'm trying to see if Mala is adverse to bussing as scum and that's the only recent scum game I've found so far. -.- just based on this, though, I doubt she would bus on D2 with several other lynch options available and a known town RB in the game.

[Boonskiies]

btw, we also feel that Egg and DW's reactions to Thor at the end of D1 are highly town and will not consider anything resembling a lynch on either of them at this juncture.

Pie, fake reactions are super easy to pull off. Plus, I disagree with Delta's reaction seeming town...


Are we allowed to talk about tokens, and where we put them at?

I tried to a long time ago, but no one answered my question.

Yes, I prefer to play as scum, but I'm an easy mislynch. My team thought it best to put tokens on town for me. You think they'd put faith in my scum game? Haha.

[Boonskiies]

When have I ever been scum and not pushed for a lynch on you, Pie? Even when we were scum buddies I tried to push for a lynch on you. Even when you were the towniest person in the game, I pushed for a lynch on you.

[Egg]

Yeah I don't believe you about spending town tokens when you prefer scum

[Trojan Horse]

I'm trying to see if Mala is adverse to bussing as scum and that's the only recent scum game I've found so far. -.- just based on this, though, I doubt she would bus on D2 with several other lynch options available and a known town RB in the game.

Here's a follow-up question to that, though: do you think Mala would put her scummate down as one of TWO options, and then vote for the other one? (Which basically means she is calling her scummate her #2 scumread.) Because that's what Mala did with Egg during D2.

Oversoul no longer has to worry about his own game, so he gave this game a reread. Based on the reread, he's leaning towards Egg. I'm going to think about it...

[DeltaWave]

Votecount 2.10:

Malakittens (6-LYNCH)-

pieguyn,

SleepyKrew

, Egg,

Save The Dragons

, sthar8, Trojan Horse,

DeltaWave (3)-

Boonskiies,

Malakittens

,

jasonT1981

,

Boonskiies (1)-

DeltaWave,

Not voting (1)-

Bins

,

With 11 alive, it takes 6 to lynch. Deadline is at 6pm on the 30th April 2015. (expired on 2015-04-30 13:00:00)

STD is v/la until Sunday 3rd May.

Malakittens has been lynched. Flip incoming...

If Boonskiies was scum, that would mean the entire Malakittens wagon was town-driven and nobody was bussing her. I'm not saying it's impossible but I would expect a busser at that stage of the game. This does sort of call TH into question.

[DeltaWave]

btw, we also feel that Egg and DW's reactions to Thor at the end of D1 are highly town and will not consider anything resembling a lynch on either of them at this juncture.

Pie, fake reactions are super easy to pull off. Plus, I disagree with Delta's reaction seeming town...


Are we allowed to talk about tokens, and where we put them at?

I tried to a long time ago, but no one answered my question.

Yes, I prefer to play as scum, but I'm an easy mislynch. My team thought it best to put tokens on town for me. You think they'd put faith in my scum game? Haha.

How many town tokens did they drop on you?

[Egg]

If Boon and Trojan are town, they are part of teams that got all town roles. Not really relevant to anything but I found that interesting.

[Egg]

So this is apparently Boon's favorite mafia moment according to his GTKAS (thanks Cheet):

- I claimed Town Tracker day 1 of Case of Doctor Pepper, and successfully no killed the last night in a group of 4 to win without having to confirm anyone.

So he's no killed before and is apparently proud of what it accomplished. Just thought that was worth mentioning

[Boonskiies]

btw, we also feel that Egg and DW's reactions to Thor at the end of D1 are highly town and will not consider anything resembling a lynch on either of them at this juncture.

Pie, fake reactions are super easy to pull off. Plus, I disagree with Delta's reaction seeming town...


Are we allowed to talk about tokens, and where we put them at?

I tried to a long time ago, but no one answered my question.

Yes, I prefer to play as scum, but I'm an easy mislynch. My team thought it best to put tokens on town for me. You think they'd put faith in my scum game? Haha.

How many town tokens did they drop on you?

I don't know the exact amount. Our team believed that our team's strength is to eventually become obvtown to everyone, and I think we used an equal amount of town tokens on everyone. We didn't use tokens anywhere else.

[Boonskiies]

Yeah I don't believe you about spending town tokens when you prefer scum

Wasn't my choice, haha. I'd much rather have played scum, but I did tell them I would be worried about getting caught with Pieguyn in this game. Also, I win more when I am town.

[pieguyn]

When have I ever been scum and not pushed for a lynch on you, Pie? Even when we were scum buddies I tried to push for a lynch on you. Even when you were the towniest person in the game, I pushed for a lynch on you.

yes, but as I said, I think you're attempting to deliberately play to the opposite of your scum meta here

I also don't really think in either case you *had* to push me as scum. the game where we were both scum, it only wound up happening bc we were strategically bussing each other so that one of us could get to endgame, and I think you probably could have done something else besides pushing me in the other game.

If Boonskiies was scum, that would mean the entire Malakittens wagon was town-driven and nobody was bussing her. I'm not saying it's impossible but I would expect a busser at that stage of the game. This does sort of call TH into question.

what do you make of the point that scum knew there was a town RB in the game after N1? you think they'd bus anyway and leave only one scum left when one scum vs. a town RB is essentially autoloss for them?

or am I just going wrong here

[pieguyn]

to be fair, I do remember Boon mentioning he spent tokens on town sometime a while back

but even if he was telling the truth about it, it doesn't make him town. so.

[Boonskiies]

I'm trying to see if Mala is adverse to bussing as scum and that's the only recent scum game I've found so far. -.- just based on this, though, I doubt she would bus on D2 with several other lynch options available and a known town RB in the game.

Here's a follow-up question to that, though: do you think Mala would put her scummate down as one of TWO options, and then vote for the other one? (Which basically means she is calling her scummate her #2 scumread.) Because that's what Mala did with Egg during D2.

Oversoul no longer has to worry about his own game, so he gave this game a reread. Based on the reread, he's leaning towards Egg. I'm going to think about it...

Bus a buddy; vote a townie....CLASSIC.

Actually, that makes me more okay with going through with voting Egg.

Anywho, my team's been saying that for a while. They don't want me voting anyone but Egg toDay.

[DeltaWave]

what do you make of the point that scum knew there was a town RB in the game after N1? you think they'd bus anyway and leave only one scum left when one scum vs. a town RB is essentially autoloss for them?

or am I just going wrong here

What makes you think they knew about an rb?

[Boonskiies]

If Boonskiies was scum, that would mean the entire Malakittens wagon was town-driven and nobody was bussing her. I'm not saying it's impossible but I would expect a busser at that stage of the game. This does sort of call TH into question.

what do you make of the point that scum knew there was a town RB in the game after N1? you think they'd bus anyway and leave only one scum left when one scum vs. a town RB is essentially autoloss for them?

or am I just going wrong here[/quote]


Sorry, that looks weird; I'm not the one who said that. ^ Haha.

[Boonskiies]

Ohp...now I get it. Haha, Pie said it.

[Boonskiies]

what do you make of the point that scum knew there was a town RB in the game after N1? you think they'd bus anyway and leave only one scum left when one scum vs. a town RB is essentially autoloss for them?

or am I just going wrong here

What makes you think they knew about an rb?

Mala was given a No Result on her role cop investigation.

[Egg]

what do you make of the point that scum knew there was a town RB in the game after N1? you think they'd bus anyway and leave only one scum left when one scum vs. a town RB is essentially autoloss for them?

or am I just going wrong here

What makes you think they knew about an rb?

Maybe Boon just slipped that their role cop checked STD.

[Egg]

what do you make of the point that scum knew there was a town RB in the game after N1? you think they'd bus anyway and leave only one scum left when one scum vs. a town RB is essentially autoloss for them?

or am I just going wrong here

What makes you think they knew about an rb?

Mala was given a No Result on her role cop investigation.

Oh. Or that

[Boonskiies]

what do you make of the point that scum knew there was a town RB in the game after N1? you think they'd bus anyway and leave only one scum left when one scum vs. a town RB is essentially autoloss for them?

or am I just going wrong here

What makes you think they knew about an rb?

Mala was given a No Result on her role cop investigation.

Oh. Or that

Actually, this is a slip.

VOTE: Egg

[pieguyn]

eh

I really really think that everyone else has compelling reason to be town outside {Boon, Egg} (and I think Boon is more likely scum out of those two). I'm primarily searching for evidence that gives me strong cause to question my town reads outside of those 2 players and I really haven't seen it yet.

[pieguyn]

how is that a slip