Mini 478- Simenon's Too Much Scum: Game Over

AlSleet · Post Post #100 (ISO) » Thu Jul 26, 2007 1:26 pm

Well, he was the scummiest, but I can't say I agree with lynching him before the replacement has time to make an argument. I only left my random vote on because I didn't think anyone would hammer.

creampuffeater · Post Post #101 (ISO) » Thu Jul 26, 2007 3:37 pm

End of day and i cant lock votecount

Xerebz 5 Jordan, alsleet, sirwario, Rishi, Thefonz
Rishi 2 Guardian, XerebZ

Well, thanks for saving me trouble, but it diddnt save the town trouble. Not only was he town, he was your SK cop. However, he is dead! (wants edit too). NIGHT NOW, Ends after minimum of 24 hours (im away)/maximum 72, and whenever the SK submits a choice. Please no talking at night even if I cant lock. (I WILL MODKILL)

creampuffeater · Post Post #102 (ISO) » Sat Jul 28, 2007 7:07 am

Day 2 dawns with
FLAVOR FLAVOR FLAVOR.
You find guardian shot, and he was a

Townie

JordanA24 · Post Post #103 (ISO) » Sat Jul 28, 2007 7:18 am

The Fonz · Post Post #104 (ISO) » Sat Jul 28, 2007 7:23 am

JordanA24 wrote:Damn

Anything substantial to add?

Rishi · Post Post #105 (ISO) » Sat Jul 28, 2007 7:30 am

AlSleet wrote:Well, he was the scummiest, but I can't say I agree with lynching him before the replacement has time to make an argument. I only left my random vote on because I didn't think anyone would hammer.

This is why I hate twilight posting (I know it's allowed in the rules of this game). AlSleet was trying to cover his ass here. If xerebz turned out to be scum, then AlSleet gets credit for the lynch. If xerebz turned out to be a townie, he looks innocent.

Having said that, this isn't necessarily scummy behavior. A townie would have just as much interest in covering his ass as Mafia.

The Fonz · Post Post #106 (ISO) » Sat Jul 28, 2007 7:38 am

I hate using the 'well it was a random vote and i didn't think anyone would hammer' argument. I agree it was bigtime asscovering, and I disagree that town has the same motivation to do it that scum does- after all, scum know the lynchee isn't scum.

Same reason I don't like acfan's post at the start of this page.

SirWario · Post Post #107 (ISO) » Sat Jul 28, 2007 10:00 am

I agree with Rishi about the posting during twilight. I really don't like how Alsleet and acfan both tried to act like it was a bad move to lynch xerebz just in case he turned up townie. It is interesting because both of them never really took a firm stance on anyone on day 1.

Also, I don't like how Rishi hammered xerebz so quickly. I don't believe his replacement could have justified xerebz's actions, but I still think you made a hasty decision.

FOS:Alsleet, acfan, and Rishi

I will wait to hear their defense before voting anyone.

AlSleet · Post Post #108 (ISO) » Sun Jul 29, 2007 3:25 pm

SirWario wrote:I agree with Rishi about the posting during twilight. I really don't like how Alsleet and acfan both tried to act like it was a bad move to lynch xerebz just in case he turned up townie. It is interesting because both of them never really took a firm stance on anyone on day 1.

Also, I don't like how Rishi hammered xerebz so quickly. I don't believe his replacement could have justified xerebz's actions, but I still think you made a hasty decision.

FOS:Alsleet, acfan, and Rishi

I will wait to hear their defense before voting anyone.

It's just my tendency to leave my random vote on someone until I see something major that would make me change it. I hadn't really decided who I thought was the scum in this game but I found xerebz the scummiest. So, it was beneficial in a way that I had had my random vote on him from the beginning, however I did not anticipate such a speedy lynch and I'm a little suspicious of Rishi for hammering that quickly without hearing anything else from the victim.

Rishi · Post Post #109 (ISO) » Sun Jul 29, 2007 5:36 pm

AlSleet wrote: It's just my tendency to leave my random vote on someone until I see something major that would make me change it. I hadn't really decided who I thought was the scum in this game but I found xerebz the scummiest. So, it was beneficial in a way that I had had my random vote on him from the beginning, however I did not anticipate such a speedy lynch and I'm a little suspicious of Rishi for hammering that quickly without hearing anything else from the victim.

Well, I think this is a fairly weak argument. At that point, xerebz made it clear that he did not want to play any more. There was absolutely no way that we were going to get any more out of him, unless he was replaced. I thought, "Well, we're going to wait a couple days for a replacement, and then his replacement is likely to be lynched very soon after entering the game."

(Of course, it wouldn't have actually happened that way. If someone halfway intelligent replaced, then he would have claimed SK Finder immediately, which would lead to a night death for his replacement.)

I think we have to accept the fact that xerebz played an absolutely horrible game and, in our frenzy, we mistook bad play for scummy play. In hindsight, we should have asked for a replacement

The thing I'm curious about is that there were five people involved in the lynch, and yet AlSleet and I are the only ones who are getting any flak for it.

I think it's awfully convenient that, towards the beginning of Day 2, SirWario came out gunning for the lynchers and ac1983fan (after The Fonz said something about him). But let's not forget that SirWario was one of the five votes.

I don't think this behavior is scummy enough to vote. Besides, we should slow down. If I did my math right, we're not necessarily in lynch-or-lose, but if we hit a townie and the SK hits another townie, the Mafia wins.

SirWario · Post Post #110 (ISO) » Sun Jul 29, 2007 7:22 pm

Rishi, I'm not saying that I wasn't too blame for the lynch. I definitely thought xerebz was scum. I was just curious as to your quick hammer. But you're correct that xerebz 's replacement would have been doomed anyway via lynch or NK.

JordanA24 · Post Post #111 (ISO) » Sun Jul 29, 2007 10:32 pm

Rishi wrote: In hindsight, we should have asked for a replacement.

To be honest, this is one of the scummiest excuses in the book, apologising for scummy behaviour and hoping others forget about it. I also found your quick hammer suspicious. But I have to agree with you, he was exceedingly scummy and to be honest, a rather bad player. I don't think it's vote worthy, especially considering how we could be, depending on the SK's choice, in a lylo situation. But, I'll

FOS: Rishi

Rishi · Post Post #112 (ISO) » Mon Jul 30, 2007 1:53 am

JordanA24 wrote: To be honest, this is one of the scummiest excuses in the book, apologising for scummy behaviour and hoping others forget about it.

If I wanted people to forget about it, I wouldn't have mentioned it at all.

JordanA24 · Post Post #113 (ISO) » Mon Jul 30, 2007 2:12 am

Rishi wrote:
JordanA24 wrote: To be honest, this is one of the scummiest excuses in the book, apologising for scummy behaviour and hoping others forget about it.
If I wanted people to forget about it, I wouldn't have mentioned it at all.

No, I mean trying to make people forget that you did it later by apologising for it now.

ac1983fan · Post Post #114 (ISO) » Mon Jul 30, 2007 2:57 am

SirWario wrote:I agree with Rishi about the posting during twilight. I really don't like how Alsleet and acfan both tried to act like it was a bad move to lynch xerebz just in case he turned up townie. It is interesting because both of them never really took a firm stance on anyone on day 1.

Also, I don't like how Rishi hammered xerebz so quickly. I don't believe his replacement could have justified xerebz's actions, but I still think you made a hasty decision.

FOS:Alsleet, acfan, and Rishi

I will wait to hear their defense before voting anyone.

I didn't vote for him. I didn't get the chance to make a stance becuase day 1 took way too little time...

Guardian · Post Post #115 (ISO) » Mon Jul 30, 2007 6:27 am

SirWario · Post Post #116 (ISO) » Mon Jul 30, 2007 6:38 am

Well, acfan, what do you think of the current situation now then?

SirWario · Post Post #117 (ISO) » Tue Jul 31, 2007 3:13 pm

Where is everybody?

AlSleet · Post Post #118 (ISO) » Tue Jul 31, 2007 3:30 pm

SirWario wrote:Where is everybody?

Waiting for acfan to answer his question.

creampuffeater · Post Post #119 (ISO) » Thu Aug 02, 2007 3:52 am

prods going out tonight

The Fonz · Post Post #120 (ISO) » Fri Aug 03, 2007 4:19 am

Still here, still want an answer outta ac. Top suspects as of now: Al and acfan. Kinda pissed that the one person i was convinced is town is the one who died overnight, but that's to be expected i 'spose.

Rishi · Post Post #121 (ISO) » Fri Aug 03, 2007 4:49 am

Keep in mind we do have a 50% shot of hitting some kind of scum right now. If someone seems scummy, they probably are. I don't see ac1983fan as Mafia, but he could be the SK.

ac1983fan · Post Post #122 (ISO) » Fri Aug 03, 2007 7:08 am

SirWario wrote:Well, acfan, what do you think of the current situation now then?

what do you mean... its only page 5... I generally as a player can't make good opinions and don't play well until later in the game... if I play well at all, that is.

JordanA24 · Post Post #123 (ISO) » Fri Aug 03, 2007 7:17 am

Vote: acfan

I've got a strong gut feeling on this guy. And also, he FOS'ed Guardian on Page 2, why not vote? The vote you already had was random, and Guardian was a townie of course.

Rishi · Post Post #124 (ISO) » Fri Aug 03, 2007 7:31 am

JordanA24 wrote:
Vote: acfan

I've got a strong gut feeling on this guy. And also, he FOS'ed Guardian on Page 2, why not vote? The vote you already had was random, and Guardian was a townie of course.

You FOSed me and didn't vote for me. Does that make you suspicious?

I never quite understood the argument that someone is suspicious for Not Voting for someone, unless the person they weren't voting for turned out to be scum.