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[ryan]

Distancing ignore?

QFT

[spectrumvoid]

Erm...

unvote

I completely didn't realise my vote was still on due to my lack of activity earlier.

[spectrumvoid]

I know I'm town and have watched both of them try and place a case on me for awhile now with sketchy reasons at best. Tar's reasoning for voting me were pathetic and made it an easy vote to place on him. Either or is scum, and if you don't believe me, investigate me, I'm here to out the scum.

Let's look at ryan's response.

1. I know I'm town. O_o.
2. Investigate me.
3. It was easy to vote for Tar.

My first reaction was 2 = godfather, but this is an open game without one.
3 sounds like opportunistic voting. But then again, tar's vote was as opportunistic.

Couple of things before I vote: check out TCS. At this point, I'm leaning on TCS / mokina being pro-town, but I'll have another look. Also, I think tarhalindur and ryan both look scummy...

[ryan]

I know I'm town and have watched both of them try and place a case on me for awhile now with sketchy reasons at best. Tar's reasoning for voting me were pathetic and made it an easy vote to place on him. Either or is scum, and if you don't believe me, investigate me, I'm here to out the scum.

Let's look at ryan's response.

1. I know I'm town. O_o.
2. Investigate me.
3. It was easy to vote for Tar.

My first reaction was 2 = godfather, but this is an open game without one.
3 sounds like opportunistic voting. But then again, tar's vote was as opportunistic.

Couple of things before I vote: check out TCS. At this point, I'm leaning on TCS / mokina being pro-town, but I'll have another look. Also, I think tarhalindur and ryan both look scummy...

So you think TCS is town and his case on Tar was legit but me agreeing was opportunistic? Explain that. I'd also like to hear more about you not paying attention to where your vote was when you just posted on Wednesday, it's not like you've been missing from this game for weeks.

[FeRnAnDo]

ryan looks desperate for someone that trusts him and is throwing out decoys like post 202 pointed well. I will not say Tar isn't scum, his early actions stained my impression of him, but i think it's unlikely that he is teamed up with ryan, who's surely one.

[ryan]

ryan looks desperate for someone that trusts him and is throwing out decoys like post 202 pointed well. I will not say Tar isn't scum, his early actions stained my impression of him, but i think it's unlikely that he is teamed up with ryan, who's surely one.

You haven't posted since the 22nd and this is your return post? I am not scum, but I appreciate your wild accusation and pretty much non content post where you say Tar could be scum BUT you doubt it he is. Nice comeback

[Cephrir]

Vote Count:

ryan 2 (FeRnAnDo, Tarhalindur)

Tarhalindur 1 (ryan)
The Central Scrutinizer 1 (Albert B. Rampage)

Not Voting 3 (Aimee, The Central Scrutinizer, spectrumvoid)

[ryan]

Aimee? The Central Scrutinizer? Anything you'd like to add to the game?

[The Central Scrutinizer]

Saturday is a bad day, and my internet at home is on the fritz.

[ryan]

Saturday is a bad day, and my internet at home is on the fritz.

Than we can expect to see something from you Sunday or Monday?

[Aimee]

Erm, where's everyone else? Fernando, ABR, Tar?

[Cephrir]

Tarhalindur is being prodded.

[ryan]

Erm, where's everyone else? Fernando, ABR, Tar?

How about some opinions from you?

[Tarhalindur]

I'm here (been using my notes to get together a PBPA on ryan), but I'm a bit short for time ATM. I should have a PBPA on ryan in the next day or two.

[ryan]

I'm here (been using my notes to get together a PBPA on ryan), but I'm a bit short for time ATM. I should have a PBPA on ryan in the next day or two.

But no other suspects eh? Guess I shouldn't be too surprised.

[Aimee]

I remember I asked everyone questions in my massive analysis. I haven't properly analysed them, so here goes:

Barmacral/Albert

: My Aimeelicious assignment to Barmacral was the following:

a. Barmacral, who do you think are scum and why? Not scum and why? Please make a big and detailed post.

So far this hasn't been properly done by either Barmacral or Albert.

I said that Barma lurked and wasn't scum hunting and caved into pressure. He responded to my analysis of him in Post 93, where he seems to simply accept the points I came up with about him, which I can understand. What I definitely expected was a

follow-up

of this - I accused him of not scum-hunting, and he seemed to accept this, yet still not scum-hunt. He obviously needed a replacement though.

Albert steps in, and starts relatively well in Post 142, starting with some good suspicions of Mokina, ryan and Tarhalindur. He labels SV and myself as pro-town, yet doesn't explain more. Furthermore, he doesn't give any thoughts on Fernando at all, which is slightly concerning. I'd like Albert to give his opinions about myself, SV and Fernando.

Enlightened Bystander/Mokina/The Central Scrutinizer

: Here was the assignment I gave to EB:

b. Enlightened Bystander, what are your thoughts on ryan? Big post, please.

EB lurked and got replaced. Obviously, I didn't really expect Mokina/TCS to defend themselves about what I said about EB in my analysis. However, TCS, could you explain whether or not you agree or disagree with what I said about EB? Despite this, I think TCS has answered sufficiently the assignment I gave to EB.

Mokina gives her thoughts on ryan, in her opening post:

Ryan actually strikes me as one of the less suspicious characters here. He is active and tries to keep the game that way. On the other hand, his input seems to focus mostly on these lurkers... an analysis of what has been posted would not go amiss.

This is highly non-committal, and really emphasises my suspicions of EB.

TCS has given his thoughts and says he is suspicious of ryan in several posts, most notably Post 157, where he labels both Tar and ryan as scummy. Although I would have preferred a post solely dedicated to ryan's behaviour, I don't expect TCS to go back and do things again.

The reason I asked EB for his thoughts on ryan was because both had completely ignored each other. The way TCS came after ryan when he came in, coupled with the non-committal way Mokina acted makes me think that a TCS/ryan partnership could be a possibility.

Fernando

: My assignment to Fernando was the following:

c. Fernando, I would like you to analyse two players in the game. One has to be ryan - I don't mind who you choose for the other. Pick one person, and analyse them, as well as ryan (separately). Come to a conclusion about whether they are scum or not scum, and why. Could you do that for me?

He does this very promptly, and is the first to do his assignment in the next post, Post 86. Overall, I'm quite impressed with the way he answered. The main reason I asked him was because he hadn't really given any thoughts on anyone else. Fernando, now some more time has passed, could you perhaps give your thoughts on the other players; TCS, Albert, SV and Tar? Thanks!

Also, I think he is more town from the way he answered - I was wondering if he would take the easy way out an OMGUS ryan. The very fact that he didn't do this shows either that he is either pro-town, or he is far smarter than anyone thinks he is.

However, I'm more suspicious of the way that he OMGUS' ryan in the next page. So much for my previous thoughts.

That said, I'm impressed with the way Fernando answered my assignment, and would similarly like a follow-up.

spectrumvoid

: My assignment to SV:

d. SV, please give your thoughts on Tar and ryan. Detailed post, kthx.

I'm not particularly happy with the way she has answered this.

Post 100 is where she gives her thoughts of ryan, where she concludes he isn't scum. I can see her reasoning here, yet I feel what she has said is quite brief. I would quite like her to analyse ryan again, based on more recent posts. She hasn't analysed Tarhalindur yet, so I'm still waiting for that.

Overall, I'm not particularly satisfied with the way SV responded (and didn't respond) to my assignments, so would appreciate more content from her.

ryan

: Here was my assignment to ryan:

e. Ryan, thoughts on Enlightened Bystander. Big post about it.

I'm not particularly happy with ryan's answers (or lack of).

ryan answers the first part of my assignment in Post 90, where he says that EB is a lurker and could get a pressure vote. He later does vote for EB, so I'm reasonably happy in this regard. However, I wanted to know whether or not you found him

scummy

, ryan. This wasn't fully addressed. The nearest we get is this:

I do not have a concrete opinion on EB at this time. He hasn't posted enough for me to get an accurate read on him. His top two scum choices weren't fingered very well and I didn't get much after reading that post. He's definetly a lurker but I'm not sure if that concludes he's scum.

Later, he has to defend himself from TCS' suspicions against him. Overall, I've still not seen any concrete thoughts about TCS from ryan, so am rather unimpressed with the way ryan answered my assignment. I would like him to analyse EB/Mokina/TCS again.

Tarhalindur

: The following is my assignment to Tarhalindur.

f. Tarhalindur, give your thoughts on EB, myself and SV. Big Post.

He has answered it, but I completely disagree with everything Tar said.

Tar answered my assignment in Post 87. I disagree with his thoughts on SV and myself. I find it especially interesting that he labelled EB as town. I noted my disagreements in the following post, Post 88, so I don't see the need to repeat myself.

Tar has said he has limited access, but I'm not happy about the way he has ignored this for 5 pages. I really want him to answer this again, as well as my criticisms from Post 88.

So, here's a quick summary of what I want people to do:

Albert

: Thoughts on SV, Aimee and Fernando.

Fernando

: Thoughts on everyone, most especially SV, Tar, TCS and Albert.

SV

: More recent thoughts on ryan, analysis of Tar.

ryan

: Thoughts on TCS/EB/Mokina (noting especially whether or not they are scummy).

Tar

: New attempt of my assignment, response to my criticisms of his previous answer.

Also, if anyone wants to give me an assignment, feel free!

[ryan]

Aimee: I find it pretty funny that YOU are giving out assignments in this game when you've been lurking pretty badly. Asking questions of everyone is great for discussion but I don't see you doing a whole heck of alot when it comes to scum hunting. Why don't you do a little analysis of the game? Your scum/town/netural lists and some actual CONTENT instead of just reviewing your "assignments" and questions you've asked.

[ryan]

Aimee Analysis
Post 8: Random vote on ryan
Post 17: Asks for a prod of Barmacral, also states “I’m still here”
Post 32: Notes Tarhalindur’s behavior as odd and says the same about Barmacral but could be just a townie who succumbs to pressure. Unvotes her random
Post 34: Wants content from Enlightened Bystander
Post 37: Wants my comments on her analysis
Post 50: Wants more from Fernando and Barmacral and asks for a prod on spectrumvoid
Post 53: Reasoning for spectrumvoid being inactive
Post 63: Wants Fernando to do a player analysis, thinks he’s added vague info so far
Post 85: An actual content related post where she gives analysis on players than sets her “assignments” (still doesn’t place a vote on anyone)
Post 88: Responds to Fernando and Tarhalindur’s comments (asks more questions)
Post 98: Says my post is “sufficient” asks if I believe EB is scum
107: Wants more participation (still no vote even though she states she’s explained her suspicions)
109: Perfectly happy with not voting
114: Agrees with Mokina’s post
131: Disagrees with a spectrumvoid post and finds Fernando innocent
133: Thinks she spotted what Tarhalindur spotted (whatever that was)
182: Asks TCS and Spec questions (no real content nor a vote)
189: Notes a change of opinion of TCS on Spec
An exchange than how Spec had a random vote on Aimee the entire game and neither seemed to notice (or so they say)
199: Says that she expected Spec to remove the vote since it was “random” but didn’t really pay attention to it
210: Asks where ABR, Tar and Fernando are.
215: Massive post where she looks back at our “assignments”


I still find it interesting that you haven’t placed a vote on anyone yet seem to want to know exactly how we feel about certain players in the game. Also find it strange how you seem to be "wanting" things from all of us yet you are non commital when it comes to

a) your vote
b) Suspicions on Spec for leaving a random vote on you for 8 pages
c) Thoughts on ABR

Ya look like you are playing pro town YET instead of proving analysis you are asking for everyone elses opinion, why is that? Why don't you put out a list of your own for once?

[The Central Scrutinizer]

vote: Aimee

This assignment shit is pissing me off. Lead the town more,

please

.

[ryan]

vote: Aimee

This assignment shit is pissing me off. Lead the town more,

please

.

QFT and glad I wasn't the only one getting disgusted by these "assignments"

[Albert B. Rampage]

I'm back and re-reading

[spectrumvoid]

Hm... I don't really find anything bad per se about leading the town, provided the 'leader' is a good one.

However, I too don't like Aimee's requests. I'll state why: Aimee could be scum waiting to hear what the rest of us think, then echo some request and hop on a wagon.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Voidy, thoughts on ryan ?

[ryan]

Hm... I don't really find anything bad per se about leading the town, provided the 'leader' is a good one.

However, I too don't like Aimee's requests. I'll state why: Aimee could be scum waiting to hear what the rest of us think, then echo some request and hop on a wagon.

I feel like Aimee is trying to get a read on everyone while not sharing much information about herself, definetly something I find a little scummy.

[ryan]

Tarhalindur is being prodded.

How about FeRnAnDo?