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Post Post #6225 (ISO) » Thu May 14, 2015 4:23 am

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It's also a thread that you can reasonably just cast and likely still win the game with it if you're being hated out game 2. I'm not sure if that means it should be in the board but I definitely like it in the 75, and most lists online seem to agree.
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Post Post #6226 (ISO) » Thu May 14, 2015 4:23 am

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On that note, you should probably have at least a show and tell or two in the board to bring in against potential graveyard hate.
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Post Post #6227 (ISO) » Thu May 14, 2015 5:27 am

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The only reason I could afford this in the first place was because I had a bunch of store credit to cash in. Show and Tell isn't exactly in my actual budget, but it's on my buy-eventually list
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Post Post #6228 (ISO) » Thu May 14, 2015 5:35 am

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Makes sense. So your plan against graveyard hate right now is grave titan and echoing truth?
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Post Post #6229 (ISO) » Thu May 14, 2015 6:04 am

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Abrupt Decay as well.
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Post Post #6230 (ISO) » Thu May 14, 2015 7:29 am

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im thinking of getting back into this and being more serious

but I have noone to play with if I get cards

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Post Post #6231 (ISO) » Thu May 14, 2015 7:30 am

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+is it worth it to get one of those big boxes with all the random cards in it?

Maybe two?
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Post Post #6232 (ISO) » Thu May 14, 2015 8:52 am

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In post 6230, notscience wrote:im thinking of getting back into this and being more serious

but I have noone to play with if I get cards

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A quick look at my game store suggests that wearing pants is not required in face to face magic, either.
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Post Post #6234 (ISO) » Fri May 15, 2015 5:18 am

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Someone local looking for advice, so naturally I come here. This is the deck they plan to play, and thier SB strategy. Any advice I should pass on?

2 Battlefield Forge
2 Caves of Koilos
4 Temple of Triumph
3 Mountain
1 Swamp
1 Temple of Silence
3 Temple of Malice
2 Haven of the Spirit Dragon
3 Bloodstained Mire
4 Nomad Outpost
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4 Goblin Rabblemaster
4 Stormbreath Dragon
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4 Thoughtseize
4 Draconic Roar
4 Crackling Doom
1 Murderous Cut
2 Kolaghan's Command
2 Foul-Tongue Invocation

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4 Anger of the Gods
2 Read the Bones
1 Mastery of the Unseen
1 Elspeth, Sun's Champion
2 Outpost Siege
1 Crux of Fate
1 Mardu Charm
2 Raise the Alarm
1 Virulent Plague

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Atarka Red

In - 4 Anger, 1 Plague, 1 Crux, 2 Raise, 1 Charm
Out - 4 Thoughtseize, 2 Stormbreath, 2 Doom, 1 Cut
Esper Dragons

In (play) - 2 Bones, 1 Mastery, 2 Siege
Out (play) - 4 Roar, 1 Cut
In (draw) - 2 Bones, 1 Mastery, 2 Siege, 1 Charm
Out (draw) - 4 Roar, 1 Cut, 1 Battlefield Forge
Abzan Aggro

In (play) - 2 Read Bones
Out (play) - 2 Command
In (draw) - 2 Bones, 1 Elspeth, 1 Crux
Out (draw) - 2 Command, 2 Rabble
G/W based

In (play) - 4 Anger, 1 Mastery, 1 Elspeth, 1 Crux
Out (play) - 4 Soulfire, 2 Foul-Tongue, 1 Thoughtseize
In (draw) - 4 Anger, 1 Mastery, 1 Elspeth, 1 Crux
Out (draw) - 4 Soulfire, 2 Foul-Tongue, 1 Rabble
Sidisi Whip

In - 2 Siege, 4 Anger, 2 Bones, 1 Mastery, 1 Elspeth, 1 Plague
Out - 4 Grandmaster , 2 Foul-Tongue, 4 Rabble (or Thoughtseize on play?), 1 Caves of Koilos
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Post Post #6235 (ISO) » Fri May 15, 2015 6:38 am

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I would consider 2 Mardu Charm maindeck over 2 Crackling Doom (which should end up SB then), since it has a bit more utility against most of the field, but 4 Crackling might be better depending on the meta.
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Post Post #6236 (ISO) » Fri May 15, 2015 9:13 am

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I'm not sure about that, bv. Crackling Doom is, like, the reason to play Mardu, no?
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Post Post #6237 (ISO) » Fri May 15, 2015 10:06 am

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They're sideboarding in plague and leaving rabblemaster in vs atarka red?

Tbh I'm not very sure about virulent plague because you have like 4 angers to bring in in all those matchups. Does the deck need like 5 sweepers in those matchups?
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Post Post #6238 (ISO) » Fri May 15, 2015 11:20 am

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I think its not correct to take rabblemasters out nearly as much as most people do.
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Post Post #6239 (ISO) » Fri May 15, 2015 2:05 pm

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Managed to draft Red/Green at FNM yesterday. Won.

And holy shit our pool of cards was batshit insane. We do rare redraft and god was I happy to be first.

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Post Post #6240 (ISO) » Fri May 15, 2015 2:24 pm

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I really, really hate rare redrafting, but those are some sweet picks. Nicely done
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Post Post #6241 (ISO) » Fri May 15, 2015 2:39 pm

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How come, none of us understand the appeal of not doing it?
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Post Post #6242 (ISO) » Fri May 15, 2015 3:43 pm

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I feel that it punishes new players, and makes FNM Drafting less appealing. If I'm a new player at my first FNM and I crack a foil Ugin, and then lose it because I'm not good at drafting, I'm not going to come back. I'm a pretty experienced drafter at this point, and I still wouldn't be comfortable drafting with a rare redraft because I don't always win. It just feels unnecessarily punishing, and I don't think it "encourages players to draft better", which is the usual argument I hear for it.
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Post Post #6243 (ISO) » Fri May 15, 2015 4:39 pm

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Rare redrafts are for cheap drafts with your friends where the rares are the only way you can do prize support. Rare redrafts are
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Post Post #6244 (ISO) » Fri May 15, 2015 8:03 pm

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Unless its like a 9$ draft. My store does 9$ drafts on a weekday with redrafts.

Also, Modern Masters drafts will be redrafts a large amount of the time because of the cost.
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Post Post #6245 (ISO) » Fri May 15, 2015 8:12 pm

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I prefer rare redrafts just because it removes those 'well this card is worth 20 dollars but completely unplayable in my deck' moments.
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Post Post #6246 (ISO) » Fri May 15, 2015 8:54 pm

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I just don't see the point of playing if there isn't a redraft. There's no reason to even try to come first, just pick whatever is the most value and then leave.
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Post Post #6247 (ISO) » Sat May 16, 2015 12:31 am

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If there's more packs as a prize
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Post Post #6248 (ISO) » Sat May 16, 2015 1:50 am

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The two times I've done without redraft all first place got was whatever the fnm promo was at the time.
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Post Post #6249 (ISO) » Sat May 16, 2015 2:30 am

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In post 6246, Espeonage wrote:I just don't see the point of playing if there isn't a redraft. There's no reason to even try to come first, just pick whatever is the most value and then leave.

well... uhhh...some people play magic because they enjoy playing magic.

I'm sorry you appear to not be one of those people?
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