Mini 427 - Clue Mafia 1 - Game Over, Who Won!?

[BillyTwilight]

We are in day 3 in this game already Ecto. Plus, there are going to be different players alive in each game, so I really don't see how your suggestion is going to work. But you are right, we need to do something to get these games going.

[Ectomancer]

Yeah, I know about the days, it was an example. I'm just trying to brainstorm something. Unfortunately, the way things are going, scum has the advantage in every game because after awhile, people are willing to lynch just to get the game moving.

[Battle Mage]

Alright folks, here's the deal. I'm a bit embarrassed by my lack of participation in this game, and Im sure others feel the same. After 3 1/2 months, are page counts are 10,11, and 8. We need to do something about it and so while this isnt necessarily the best plan, it may help.
I think part of our problem is getting confused between the games. My suggestion is to get to the 3 different endings, we need to focus on them one at a time. Let's focus on Clue 1, make progress and not worry about 2 until 1 is finished or 3 until 2 is done. Either that, or we can do Clue 1 until the end of day 1, then do Clue 2 until the end of day 1 and so on. Clue 3 is already at the end of day 1. Hopefully by doing this, we can revive the activity.

I appreciate your efforts to revitalise these games, but i really don't see how that would help. Rather, it would concentrate the limited activity we do have, into a maximum of 1 game at a time.

I'm still happy with a BillyTwilight lynch.

[BillyTwilight]

your reaction yesterday to the lynch on scum. Same reason as i gave for your FoS on this page.

Please explain what was scummy about that reaction? You do realize that MBL was a SK, so I would have had no "scummy" reaction against it, if you mean something along the lines of trying to get a partner lynched. I hope you also realize that I was the driving force for getting MBL lynched in the first place. You are starting to look really bad to me right now, BM, please give me any

specific

reason why you think I should be the lynch for today.

[BillyTwilight]

EBWOP: ... the lines of trying to get a partner lynched.

should read

... the lines of trying to *not* get a partner lynched.

[Mastermind of Sin]

*bump*

[chaotic_diablo]

I'd also like BM to explain. What particular actions tipped him off? I didn't find anything suspicious enough to justify a vote when I read through.

[BillyTwilight]

Waiting on BM....

[chaotic_diablo]

While we wait...
Billy, how is DOS's 165 suspicious?

[BillyTwilight]

See my post #177 and Ecto's post #178. I found him suspicious to b epiling on without committing a vote, and setting up a situation where "one or the other is scum" with no real evidence to that.

[Battle Mage]

unvote

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I want a claim from MBL and I want to weigh it against TCS' claim. Something still doesn't sit right with me here, but I am willing to re-vote MBL in the event that his answers are unsatisfactory.

it makes me wonder why TCS cop has such little faith in his own abilities that he chooses to kill himself rather than his confirmed guilty...

QFT

^this, obviously.

[BillyTwilight]

WTF, BM? Do you pay attention at all? I thought MBL was at lynch -1. TCS was not voting for MBL yet. TCS claimed to have a guilty on MBL and he had already shown a willingness to quicklynch in this game. I wanted a claim before TCS could lynch. It's called standard play. Maybe you should learn it sometime.

[Mastermind of Sin]

Vote Count

BillyTwilight - (Battle Mage)

[Mastermind of Sin]

Have not posted in over a week (7 days to pick up prod):

al_kohaulec
Ectomancer

Haven not posted in over a month (4 days to pick up prod):

Cogito Ergo Sum
dahen
DragonsofSummer

[al_kohaulec]

Dang, I should've posted here instead of the other thread to have beaten the mod by mere seconds >_>

[al_kohaulec]

Who is everybody's top two suspects and why?

[Mastermind of Sin]

dahen has notified me that he will be active again by monday, which is preferrable to having to find a replacement.

[Battle Mage]

WTF, BM? Do you pay attention at all? I thought MBL was at lynch -1. TCS was not voting for MBL yet. TCS claimed to have a guilty on MBL and he had already shown a willingness to quicklynch in this game. I wanted a claim before TCS could lynch. It's called standard play. Maybe you should learn it sometime.

lol chill out with the insults, and get a grip. what you did was fine, NORMALY, but normally, it isn't the scum who you are trying to derail the wagon of. Frankly i think you are of limited use to this game anyway, and as the only person i have a real scummy vibe from, you're today's lynch matey.

[BillyTwilight]

WTF, BM? Do you pay attention at all? I thought MBL was at lynch -1. TCS was not voting for MBL yet. TCS claimed to have a guilty on MBL and he had already shown a willingness to quicklynch in this game. I wanted a claim before TCS could lynch. It's called standard play. Maybe you should learn it sometime.

lol chill out with the insults, and get a grip. what you did was fine, NORMALY, but normally, it isn't the scum who you are trying to derail the wagon of. Frankly i think you are of limited use to this game anyway, and as the only person i have a real scummy vibe from, you're today's lynch matey.

Wow, that's nice. I attempted to derail the wagon of a SK who (even if I was mafia-aligned) I would have had no way of knowing he was scum? Your whole argument is based on me trying to keep a scum alive, which is moot because MBL was SELF-ALIGNED. Why would you think I am of limited use to this game? You have no inside information about me, as far as I know, so you can't tell what my role is. Secondly, I was the player who pushed from early day 2 to get MBL lynched anyway, so at least I have been actively participating in going after scum.

Effectively you had nothing to do with MBL's lynch. You disputed TCS' cop claim from the moment that he claimed. You only voted MBL when it looked like MBL was prime for a lynch. You have been throwing suspicion my way and voting for me ever since the fiasco at the end of day 1, which is opportunistic and scummy. You have no case against me at all, yet you are trying to get people to lynch me on a lark, and in a game where we haven't managed to kill a mafia-aligned player yet, this is terrible play. We have 8 players, three of which are probably scum, which means the chance that we are in LyLO now is very good. And you want to lynch me because "I think you are of limited use to this game anyway"? Your play could just be typical bad Battle Mage play, but at this point I am beginning to think there is something more going here, since you refuse to back off a vote that has no merit and if followed through to its conclusion will probably end up with town losing. For now

FoS: BM

for attempting to pursue a dangerous lynch on crap logic and refusing to see the light of day when he's been taken outside in the middle of July.

MoS, Dos isn't allowed to post in this game "until further notice". I don't know if he's picked up a prod or whatnot, but just in case you forgot...

[Battle Mage]

thats a good point, but unfortunately your defence doesnt actually make you less scummy. The fact that you admit you tried to derail a wagon on somebody who, to the best of your knowledge, was town, indicates that you could easily be distancing scum.

may i ask why you consider yourself a 'dangerous lynch'? are you some sort of suicidal maniac?
you evidently think alot of yourself, if you think that a town cannot win without you.
BM

WTF, BM? Do you pay attention at all? I thought MBL was at lynch -1. TCS was not voting for MBL yet. TCS claimed to have a guilty on MBL and he had already shown a willingness to quicklynch in this game. I wanted a claim before TCS could lynch. It's called standard play. Maybe you should learn it sometime.

lol chill out with the insults, and get a grip. what you did was fine, NORMALY, but normally, it isn't the scum who you are trying to derail the wagon of. Frankly i think you are of limited use to this game anyway, and as the only person i have a real scummy vibe from, you're today's lynch matey.

Wow, that's nice. I attempted to derail the wagon of a SK who (even if I was mafia-aligned) I would have had no way of knowing he was scum? Your whole argument is based on me trying to keep a scum alive, which is moot because MBL was SELF-ALIGNED. Why would you think I am of limited use to this game? You have no inside information about me, as far as I know, so you can't tell what my role is. Secondly, I was the player who pushed from early day 2 to get MBL lynched anyway, so at least I have been actively participating in going after scum.

Effectively you had nothing to do with MBL's lynch. You disputed TCS' cop claim from the moment that he claimed. You only voted MBL when it looked like MBL was prime for a lynch. You have been throwing suspicion my way and voting for me ever since the fiasco at the end of day 1, which is opportunistic and scummy. You have no case against me at all, yet you are trying to get people to lynch me on a lark, and in a game where we haven't managed to kill a mafia-aligned player yet, this is terrible play. We have 8 players, three of which are probably scum, which means the chance that we are in LyLO now is very good. And you want to lynch me because "I think you are of limited use to this game anyway"? Your play could just be typical bad Battle Mage play, but at this point I am beginning to think there is something more going here, since you refuse to back off a vote that has no merit and if followed through to its conclusion will probably end up with town losing. For now

FoS: BM

for attempting to pursue a dangerous lynch on crap logic and refusing to see the light of day when he's been taken outside in the middle of July.

MoS, Dos isn't allowed to post in this game "until further notice". I don't know if he's picked up a prod or whatnot, but just in case you forgot...

[BillyTwilight]

I think its a dangerous lynch because I think we are in LyLO. I am town. Therefore a lynch of me = town losing. Having a hard time with that concept, BM?

[Battle Mage]

hmm LyLo is a possibility i suppose, but i don't see why there are definitely going to be 3 scum, rather than 2. Still, if you think we are at LyLo, why aren't you campaigning for a No-Lynch?

[BillyTwilight]

Please point out where I EVER asked for a no lynch. 3 is a guess. If 4 we would have lost already and if 2 it would mean scum would start at 2 out of 12, which is highly unlikely. Could be 2 scum groups of 2 each, but with an added serial killer, I find 5 out of 12 (40%) to be non-town alligned a bit much as well. I think three is the best guess, which means we are probably in LyLO.

[Battle Mage]

Please point out where I EVER asked for a no lynch. 3 is a guess. If 4 we would have lost already and if 2 it would mean scum would start at 2 out of 12, which is highly unlikely. Could be 2 scum groups of 2 each, but with an added serial killer, I find 5 out of 12 (40%) to be non-town alligned a bit much as well. I think three is the best guess, which means we are probably in LyLO.

you didn't ask to No Lynch. thats exactly my point. If you really believed we were in LyLo, you would be bright enough to realise that No-Lynching is the best policy in order to ensure a victory.

[Ectomancer]

vote BM

The arrogance you are displaying towards BillyT is growing old.