Right, so I've read back over the thread and I have questions for everybody. Aren't you lucky?
Also going to give a quick summary of what I see as the major things everybody has said and my thoughts on them.
death_omen
Really hasn't said all that much: only a couple of posts worth commenting on.
In
#42 he votes for WLC, saying that he seems "jumpy". Interestingly, that's really all death_omen says on the subject. DeathSauce later clarifies in
#57 when he says that "it does seem strange to come back and clarify that an obviously random vote was indeed random", but death_omen never mentions it again.
Then we have
#96, about which people have already commented a fair bit recently. No need to repeat my view on how bad his reasons for voting are: instead, my attention was caught by his final comment: "consider this vote temporary". While it's clear that at this stage of the game most votes will be temporary (as people vote to get a reaction and then decide to go after somebody else for something else), I don't see why you'd want to say
in advance
that your vote is essentially meaningless as you'll be removing it soon.
So, my questions for omen:
1)
What do you think about WLC now?
2)
What sort of response were you expecting when you voted for Muerrto? (What sort of response from Muerrto, in particular, but I'd also like to be told what sort of response you were expecting from everybody else).
DeathSauce
Considers Khel (and by implication vampyrus, who had just done the same thing) "very slightly odd" for placing the third vote when he did. (Well, actually Sauce says "on day 1", but I'm guessing he means "this early on day 1", as obviously
somebody
has to place a third vote on day 1 eventually or the day would never end).
It seems similarly "slightly odd" to me that he unvotes WLC in
#57 despite agreeing with omen that his behaviour on page 1 was "strange".
Despite voting for Muertto, DeathSauce is third to join the choir of voices suggesting that death_omen's reasons for voting are suspicious, in
#102. (He unvotes Muerrto, but only FoSes, and does not vote, for death_omen).
Questions for DeathSauce:
1)
What are you current thoughts on Khel and vampyrus?
2)
Is it your normal habit to remove any early random votes as soon as you think the game is moving out of "the random stage"?
Hjallti
Hasn't been around since the random stage ended (or at least, hasn't said anything of interest so far). Didn't comment on either of the 'big' issues at the time he left: that is, death_omen's suspicions of WLC or Khel's later accusation of Muerrto/death_omen.
Questions:
1)
What
do
you think of WLC? Was he "jumpy"?
2)
Do you think Khel was right to suggest that Muerrto was feeding death_omen lines?
3)
Assuming you answered either of the above questions, why did you not make your thoughts known at the time?
4)
What are your thoughts on what's happenened in the game over the last week?
Hyphen-ated
Has a grand total of 3 posts in the game so far. One is a random vote, and the other is a clarification of another post. That's ... not a lot of contribution. (Yeah, I know, like I'm one to talk
).
It's slightly curious (to me) that Hypen shows up just after I vote for him for inactivty, and that - when he does so - he just echoes other people's complaints that Muerrto is making a WIFOM argument.
Questions:
1)
You describe Muerrto's argument as "goofy", but you don't tell us what you think of him - do you find him scummy?
2)
Who would you say are your top three suspects right now?
3)
Are you always this quiet?
Khelvaster
So far, I'd say that Khel (along with Muerrto) has been one of the top people responsible for keeping the game moving. This is a good thing. Haven't really agreed with everything he's said though ...
Rather than repeat my views on Khel prior to my
#73, I'll just link back to what I said then. The realisation that Khel never responded to my questions then fills me with profound sadness, naturally, but also makes me extra curious as to what his answer would be.
But I like his push on omen after omen's vote for Muerrto - I completely agree with him that strong responses to accusations isn't a scum tell, even if I'm not convinced that suggesting otherwise makes omen scum.
Questions for Khel:
1)
Seriously, if you think that omen said something that was "really scummy", and Muerrto merely gave him a way out, why vote for Muerrto and not omen?
2)
Are you still sticking with an omen/Muerrto scum link, or has death_omen's behaviour made you reconsider the possibility he's connected to Muerrto?
3)
Don't you think it's a little early in the day to try to get somebody to lynch -2?
Malchonn
Seems to have fewer posts than Hypen-ated. That's not right.
Questions:
1)
You say in
#60 that both Khel and omen look suspicious. Could you expand on that? Which of the two do you currently think more likely to be scum?
2)
When you said that strangeflea was "talking sense", which of his posts did you have in mind?
Muerrto
Definitely one of the main people keeping the game active right now. Again, check out
#73 for my earlier thoughts on him; they haven't really changed much.
But I certainly like his appeals to people to slow down (in terms of voting, not posting), and agree with his suggestion that a short day is only going to help scum by making it hard for us to spot connections later.
Questions:
1)
I'd be interested to see how you rank the people who voted for you in terms of suspicions (obviously you suspect omen most, but I'm not sure how you feel about Khel compared to Flea or Sauce and so on). Mind doing so?
2)
If you had to pick three people right now to 'attack relentlessly for a few pages', who would they be and why?
somestrangeflea
First voted for death_omen in
#43, accusing him of "trying to get a real reason to vote someone, when there really isn't one".
Then FOSes Khel in
#52, calling his actions "pointless, senseless and quite suspicious".
He also has a bit of sustained interaction with Muerrto about the WIFOM stuff. Not really sure how productive that exchange was, to be honest, but asking for clarification and voting when you don't like what you hear is sound enough.
However, I don't really like his claimed reason of voting for death_omen because he "appears to be the play ATM anyway". Unnecessarily passive, really, and odd, as flea had already voiced suspicions of omen in the past.
Few questions for flea:
1)
You say in your latest post that you 'agree with Khev'. Does this mean you find him less suspicious than you did earlier, or are you still worried by his earlier actions?
2)
Are you voting for omen to get him to defend himself, or because you think he's a good choice for lynching today? (Or both, of course).
3)
I'm puzzled by your claim in
#90 that "Khelv dragged me out of the random voting stage". Did you mean omen here?
VampanezeHunter
Seemed to be a lot more active in the thread during the random stage than he is now.
In
#49 he suggests that "the most scummy, in my eyes, is Khelvaster". A few posts later he FOSes Khel for the same reasons he gives in that post. And that's really it, as far as contribution goes, except for a couple of posts complaining that the game is slowing down.
Questions:
1)
Are you still as suspicious of Khel as you were in #49? What do you think of his vote on death_omen now?
2)
If you had to speculate, who do you think Khel might be partnered with if he's scum?
3)
Conversely, if Khel is
not
scum, who would your top suspect be?
vampyrusddg
Not a hugely active player right now, but he's contributing a little. Seems to contradict himself a little though: in
#85 he says "Khel is catching my eye a bit because he seems to have pulled us out of the random stage far too quickly, but nothing I'd vote him for yet, but definitly IGMEOY".
But then he goes back on this later, in
#105, when he says that he "never said it was a bad thing" (to pull out of the random stage).
This is slightly worrying, though he does clarify that he "just always keep my eye on anyone who pulls out of [the random stage] while I'm still having fun". But if I were being paranoid, I'd wonder about the fact that vamp was attacking Khev a bit when others were doing so, and is laughing that off now that people's attention has shifted to omen.
Still, questions.
1)
You voted Malchonn earlier because he wasn't contributing, right? Now that you've unvoted, should we assume you're happier with his level of contribution?
2)
You play on another site with Muerrto, yes? Would you agree with the description of his style of play that he gives in
#75?
3)
If death_omen is scum, who do you think his partners might be?
4)
Who's more suspicious to you right now: Muerrto or Khel?
WeyounsLastClone
Another low poster. He's randomly voted, and apologised for having lost computer access, and that's about it.
Perhaps some questions will help him clear up his thoughts:
1)
What do you think of death_omen? Scummy, or not scummy? Would you vote for him? Why?
2)
What do you think of Muerrto? Did you follow his explanations of his comment to omen earlier, or like flea did you find them confusing? Scummy or not? Why?
3)
What do you think of Khelvaster? Do you agree with his suspicions about a Muerrto/omen scum pairing? Why?
...
Ok. Hopefully I'll be able to comment on things more from this point (I've been a bit quieter than I'd have liked so far). I can also try answering any questions people might have for me, too. Nothing huge stands out from the rereads though: and I'm not really happy switching my vote to omen just yet, as I'm not convinced that putting him in danger of a lynch to get a reaction is our best move here (he can defend himself without having lots of votes on him, surely?). Still got my eye on him though, and I'd suggest that Sauce might be worth looking at too as a possible partner (thinking of the fact that Sauce did more to justify omen's suspicions of WLC than omen did himself). And I'm a bit worried about vampryus, too, for the reasons I give above.
But really, I think it's most important at this stage that we get more people talking and discussing. I'd like to hear more from Hjallti, Hyphen, Malchonn and WLC in particular.
, he seems keen to pick up on every single post targeted against him with strong comebacks.
