Twin Trap (Game Over) [TM2015]

[Metal Sonic]

thanks for making me read day 1, quilford

BB's town. Patrick being in first position makes me less inclined to think he's scum,

at least not as much as Quilford or Serra.

So if alch were lynched and flipped town, I'd be looking at those two, with a preference on quil as

my team keeps yelling at me about him.

[Quilford]

Yes you fucking idiot. That's because THE PLAYER WHO I HAD PUT ALL THAT BURDEN OF "THOUGHT PROCESS" AND "CLEAR REASONING" AND "ANALYSIS" AND "SCUMHUNTING" ON AND HAD ABSOLUTELY FAILED ALL THOSE TESTS

FLIPPED TOWN.

AND YOURE EXPECTING ME TO COME IN ON DAY 2, AS IF MY STRONGEST FUCKING SCUMREAD HADN'T JUST FLIPPED TOWN, AND KEEP GOING ON AS USUAL???

HOLY

FUCK

[Quilford]

thanks for making me read day 1, quilford

BB's town. Patrick being in first position makes me less inclined to think he's scum,

at least not as much as Quilford or Serra.

So if alch were lynched and flipped town, I'd be looking at those two, with a preference on quil as

my team keeps yelling at me about him.

WOW

SHE DID ONE UTTERLY SHITE VCA AND PULLED SOME RANDOM REASONING OUT OF THAT

LIKE 'BEING IN FIRST POSITION ON A WAGON MAKES YOU LESS LIKELY TO BE SCUM'

GREAT

[Metal Sonic]

Yes you fucking idiot. That's because THE PLAYER WHO I HAD PUT ALL THAT BURDEN OF "THOUGHT PROCESS" AND "CLEAR REASONING" AND "ANALYSIS" AND "SCUMHUNTING" ON AND HAD ABSOLUTELY FAILED ALL THOSE TESTS

FLIPPED TOWN.

AND YOURE EXPECTING ME TO COME IN ON DAY 2, AS IF MY STRONGEST FUCKING SCUMREAD HADN'T JUST FLIPPED TOWN, AND KEEP GOING ON AS USUAL???

HOLY

FUCK

WELL MOTHERFUCKER

WHY DO YOU SUDDENLY SUBJECT EVERY PLAYER TO ALL THAT BURDEN OF "THOUGHT PROCESS" AND "CLEAR REASONING" AND "ANALYSIS" AND "SCUMHUNTING" AFTERWARDS STILL?

IT DOESNT MAKE SENSE

IF IT WAS WRONG ON ONE PLAYER, I CAN'T SEE WHY YOU CAN POSSIBLY GO

I don't like them because a lot of the analysis seems simplistic or belaboured.

[Metal Sonic]

WOW

SHE DID ONE UTTERLY SHITE VCA AND PULLED SOME RANDOM REASONING OUT OF THAT

LIKE 'BEING IN FIRST POSITION ON A WAGON MAKES YOU LESS LIKELY TO BE SCUM'

GREAT

WHO GIVES A FUCK?

ETL ALREADY MENTIONED HER "TEAM IS SCUMREADING QUILFORD" ON DAY 1

YOUR POINT THAT THEY WERE DOING JACK SHIT IS JACK SHIT

[Metal Sonic]

WOW

SHE DID ONE UTTERLY SHITE VCA AND PULLED SOME RANDOM REASONING OUT OF THAT

LIKE 'BEING IN FIRST POSITION ON A WAGON MAKES YOU LESS LIKELY TO BE SCUM'

GREAT

NOW

YOU'RE DISCREDITING ETL'S TEAMMATES READ ON YOU?

BULLSHIT.

THE WHOLE ARGUMENT WAS "etl's was lying about her teammates reads on quilford"

AND I JUST PROVED THAT YOU LOST THE ARGUMENT

[Metal Sonic]

in other more peaceful news,

Mina is conftown.

By the way, I'd feel guilty about starting a flash wagon now.

=20537&user_select[]=0&user_select[]=0&user_sort=Go]Here is serrapaladin in Zar's Holiday Bash.

serrapaladin is scum. No questions. He gets lynched tomorrow.

the first player to scumread scum for no apparent reason is conftown.

[Metal Sonic]

no apparent

scum-motivated

reason

to bus the scum's most prized power role in the given situation

fixed in case a certain person likes to twist words

[Quilford]

Yes you fucking idiot. That's because THE PLAYER WHO I HAD PUT ALL THAT BURDEN OF "THOUGHT PROCESS" AND "CLEAR REASONING" AND "ANALYSIS" AND "SCUMHUNTING" ON AND HAD ABSOLUTELY FAILED ALL THOSE TESTS

FLIPPED TOWN.

AND YOURE EXPECTING ME TO COME IN ON DAY 2, AS IF MY STRONGEST FUCKING SCUMREAD HADN'T JUST FLIPPED TOWN, AND KEEP GOING ON AS USUAL???

HOLY

FUCK

WELL MOTHERFUCKER

WHY DO YOU SUDDENLY SUBJECT EVERY PLAYER TO ALL THAT BURDEN OF "THOUGHT PROCESS" AND "CLEAR REASONING" AND "ANALYSIS" AND "SCUMHUNTING" AFTERWARDS STILL?

Because that's how I scumhunt????? The specific point you made was that I called out Alchemist's shitty case but I didn't call out Johnny's shitty catch-up. That's because the Alchemist flip taught me that shitty posts which contained 95% summary instead of analysis could come from town. So OBVIOUSLY I wasn't about to give Johnny scum points for his catch-up.

[Quilford]

WOW

SHE DID ONE UTTERLY SHITE VCA AND PULLED SOME RANDOM REASONING OUT OF THAT

LIKE 'BEING IN FIRST POSITION ON A WAGON MAKES YOU LESS LIKELY TO BE SCUM'

GREAT

NOW

YOU'RE DISCREDITING ETL'S TEAMMATES READ ON YOU?

BULLSHIT.

THE WHOLE ARGUMENT WAS "etl's was lying about her teammates reads on quilford"

AND I JUST PROVED THAT YOU LOST THE ARGUMENT

What are you talking about? The 'first person on the wagon' reason didn't come from ETL's team, it came from ETL herself.

[Quilford]

the first player to scumread scum for no apparent reason is conftown.

Cool, I'll keep that in mind for my future scumgames

[Metal Sonic]

Yes you fucking idiot. That's because THE PLAYER WHO I HAD PUT ALL THAT BURDEN OF "THOUGHT PROCESS" AND "CLEAR REASONING" AND "ANALYSIS" AND "SCUMHUNTING" ON AND HAD ABSOLUTELY FAILED ALL THOSE TESTS

FLIPPED TOWN.

AND YOURE EXPECTING ME TO COME IN ON DAY 2, AS IF MY STRONGEST FUCKING SCUMREAD HADN'T JUST FLIPPED TOWN, AND KEEP GOING ON AS USUAL???

HOLY

FUCK

WELL MOTHERFUCKER

WHY DO YOU SUDDENLY SUBJECT EVERY PLAYER TO ALL THAT BURDEN OF "THOUGHT PROCESS" AND "CLEAR REASONING" AND "ANALYSIS" AND "SCUMHUNTING" AFTERWARDS STILL?

Because that's how I scumhunt????? The specific point you made was that I called out Alchemist's shitty case but I didn't call out Johnny's shitty catch-up. That's because the Alchemist flip taught me that shitty posts which contained 95% summary instead of analysis could come from town. So OBVIOUSLY I wasn't about to give Johnny scum points for his catch-up.

OK.

but you didn't bother to read him further

THE BARE MINIMUM OF ATTEMPTS TO GATHER A READ ON HIM AND TO UNDERSTAND HIS THOUGHT PROCESS

lets take a quick look at how much interaction you had with johnny pre-watcher claim:

a GRAND TOTAL OF FOUR

I don't particularly like the way Espy switches from talking directly to people to talking in general at everyone here.

Why don't you like it?

Given that Mina had just accused BPC of 'posting a lot like scum', what more support do you envision ETL needing as scum before beginning to push BPC?

My vote ain't anywhere.

I am in full on waiting mode, yeah. I want stuff from BPC.

Where's your head Quil?

Oh yeah, I'm not answering this right now (or any other questions) because it's 5:50 am and I only woke up coz I needed to pee.

GOODNIGHT

INTERACTING WITH HIM TO GET A TOWNREAD MY ASS

[Metal Sonic]

the first player to scumread scum for no apparent reason is conftown.

Cool, I'll keep that in mind for my future scumgames

oh and vote him. and place suspicion.

yeah. keep that in mind for your future scumgames, lasts you till d5

[Quilford]

YOUR POINT THAT THEY WERE DOING JACK SHIT IS JACK SHIT

I haven't been making any points about what ETL's team has or has not been doing. What I have done is point out the many times ETL contradicts herself over when and how they have been engaging with the game.

[Patrick]

This is getting us nowhere. I'm sorely disappointed that Mina didn't post anything last night, because her input is what we need most, and have for a while. Mina, what the hell are you doing? Even posting something insightful from your team or from you is not going to help much if it comes 3 hours before the deadline. I want to know what you think of the gamestate, who you want to lynch and what your fears are. If that comes with supplementary stuff from your team then so much the better, but I don't want to wait on it. We're running out of time.

Quilford, why no vote on ETL? Is Metal Sonic still a possibly better lynch in your mind?

[Quilford]

Quilford, why no vote on ETL?

If she is town, I don't want her to self-hammer (as she has repeatedly threatened to do) before Mina comes in here.

[Metal Sonic]

That's because the Alchemist flip taught me that shitty posts which contained 95% summary instead of analysis could come from town.

BULLSHIT

Also, therein lies the problem with BBmolla, which is that I get really suspicious of people who can't see him as anything but town because of the fakehammer:

Why not look at his actual fucking scumhunting, which is the number one alignment indicative thing in the entirety of mafia? Because it hasn't been very fucking good. Go back, look at his reasons for scumreading Alchemist, and tell me they even begin to approach good.

I have found various aspects of BB's play town, which is why I have him at null. But people (Patrick, ETL) who are just saying blah blah emotion blah fakehammer need to look a little bit closer, for Christ's sake. Your lack of nuance in your read on him really concerns me, which is precisely not what I want, because it's destroying my previously held townreads on you and, I think, making me think Johnny is townier than he actually is.

The fact that BBmolla's scumhunting isn't factoring into your read is really fucking weird.

That's a lie from you, quilford. You still clearly hung onto the 'SCUMHUNTING IS THE MOST IMPORTANT' regime.

[Metal Sonic]

Because that's how I scumhunt????? The specific point you made was that I called out Alchemist's shitty case but I didn't call out Johnny's shitty catch-up. That's because the Alchemist flip taught me that shitty posts which contained 95% summary instead of analysis could come from town. So OBVIOUSLY I wasn't about to give Johnny scum points for his catch-up.

whoops i didnt quote the full post


thats how you scumhunt my ass

[Metal Sonic]

YOUR POINT THAT THEY WERE DOING JACK SHIT IS JACK SHIT

I haven't been making any points about what ETL's team has or has not been doing. What I have done is point out the many times ETL contradicts herself over when and how they have been engaging with the game.

She is certainly being consistent with her claim that "my teammates think that quil is scum on d1"

"especially after the Johnny flip" could just be an ambiguous miswording.

there is no clear lie here.



ON THE OTHER HAND:
What I have done is point out the scum-motivated preferential treatment that quilford GIVES A FREE PASS TO SCUM WATCH-IMMUNE GOON because WATCHER IS NOT DEAD YET

[Quilford]

but you didn't bother to read him further

Yep. I didn't. I think you'll find that I did not really bother to read many people in depth that Day, because I was arguing with ETL and attempting to lynch BPC/Brian.

[Quilford]

She is certainly being consistent with her claim that "my teammates think that quil is scum on d1"

Yes. Since when was that in doubt?

"especially after the Johnny flip" could just be an ambiguous miswording.

Uh, it seems pretty unambiguous to me. Where is the ambiguity.

there is no clear lie here.

What happened to 'that's a nasty contradiction, you have my attention'?

[Quilford]

That's because the Alchemist flip taught me that shitty posts which contained 95% summary instead of analysis could come from town.

BULLSHIT

Also, therein lies the problem with BBmolla, which is that I get really suspicious of people who can't see him as anything but town because of the fakehammer:

Why not look at his actual fucking scumhunting, which is the number one alignment indicative thing in the entirety of mafia? Because it hasn't been very fucking good. Go back, look at his reasons for scumreading Alchemist, and tell me they even begin to approach good.

I have found various aspects of BB's play town, which is why I have him at null. But people (Patrick, ETL) who are just saying blah blah emotion blah fakehammer need to look a little bit closer, for Christ's sake. Your lack of nuance in your read on him really concerns me, which is precisely not what I want, because it's destroying my previously held townreads on you and, I think, making me think Johnny is townier than he actually is.

Yes. I think you will find, if you bothered to go look at why I hated BBmolla's reasons for voting Alchemist, that it wasn't because his case on Alchemist was summary instead of analysis.

[Quilford]

What you are saying is 'why didn't you vote Johnny for his bad catchup if you voted Alchemist for his bad cases, because they were both summary instead of analysis?'

What I am saying is that this is because Alchemist flipped town, so I wasn't inclined to lynch people for posting things that were summary instead of analysis.

You are somehow understanding that as me saying I dropped the entire concept of scumhunting entirely.

[Quilford]

Now. It's almost 1am and I have a test today.

Goodnight.

[EspeciallyTheLies]

hi etl

i am reading day 1 right now

i am finding some intersting stuff

thanks, quilford!

hi.

you phone posting? talk to me

i too am an attention whore like quil

that is why i can see his scum very easily :^)

i was yes. i just got to work. i'll be busy for a few hours here getting ramped up on May stuff but will be more available after that. like around 4 pm ish?

reading.