Twin Trap (Game Over) [TM2015]

Metal Sonic · Post Post #2050 (ISO) » Sun May 10, 2015 11:50 am

Patrick

I certainly can't be partners with ETL cause there is only 1 scum left

Just because I "have an agenda" doesn't mean I am wrong. It's a town agenda ffs I want to win as much as you do

I want you to take my faith in reading ETL cause you say there is at least 1 town in me/ms and we are mutually townreading each other (her more so than me)

EspeciallyTheLies · Post Post #2051 (ISO) » Sun May 10, 2015 11:51 am

Like, the logic is that TTH, me and sthar can all deal with either alignment. Sure we have our preferences, but any chance of Anti getting scum was autoloss because, sorry to say, he falls apart.

Metal Sonic · Post Post #2052 (ISO) » Sun May 10, 2015 11:51 am

In post 1933, Metal Sonic wrote:Hmm

@ ETL? When did your scumread on quilford originate? Give me a recap to the replacement?

Metal Sonic · Post Post #2053 (ISO) » Sun May 10, 2015 11:53 am

Patrick you keep saying I have an agenda. It's not like its a scum agenda or anything. Why are you ignoring it?

EspeciallyTheLies · Post Post #2054 (ISO) » Sun May 10, 2015 11:55 am

MS do you think Patrick is town? Sthar does not. He thinks Quil is just lost behind confbias.

p-edit: Oh ok. End of D1 when he was arguing semantics with me, over word usage. It was just like Titus in Street Racers. Noise making for the sake of noise making. Generating meaningless, non-game-related posts, one after another, to make the game difficult to parse later on and to put himself in a position to say AHA LOOK I MADE CONTENTS when it really wasn't content. Like the whole thing literally had no pertinence on the game state or anyone's alignment. And on top of it all, he said he was TOWNREADING ME at the time, and yet still arguing with me over nonsense? Why?

Metal Sonic · Post Post #2055 (ISO) » Sun May 10, 2015 11:56 am

Do you actually think that I haven't been considering ETL? Cause I made the remark that if quilford is town I will likely be bringing ETL down

Metal Sonic · Post Post #2056 (ISO) » Sun May 10, 2015 11:56 am

In post 2054, EspeciallyTheLies wrote:MS do you think Patrick is town? Sthar does not. He thinks Quil is just lost behind confbias.

p-edit: Oh ok. End of D1 when he was arguing semantics with me, over word usage. It was just like Titus in Street Racers. Noise making for the sake of noise making. Generating meaningless, non-game-related posts, one after another, to make the game difficult to parse later on and to put himself in a position to say AHA LOOK I MADE CONTENTS when it really wasn't content. Like the whole thing literally had no pertinence on the game state or anyone's alignment. And on top of it all, he said he was TOWNREADING ME at the time, and yet still arguing with me over nonsense? Why?

Ok I will look at that. Looks like something I enjoy doing as scum too

EspeciallyTheLies · Post Post #2057 (ISO) » Sun May 10, 2015 11:56 am

like, do you think I could be wrong about quil maybe? i'm having a really hard time getting away from that. I see good reasons for both.

ped-t: that is bad.

EspeciallyTheLies · Post Post #2058 (ISO) » Sun May 10, 2015 11:57 am

the other post not the one after it

Metal Sonic · Post Post #2059 (ISO) » Sun May 10, 2015 11:57 am

In post 2057, EspeciallyTheLies wrote:like, do you think I could be wrong about quil maybe? i'm having a really hard time getting away from that. I see good reasons for both.

ped-t: that is bad.

Mainly cause you can't stfu about lynching yourself

I'm here to help

the world

push quilford

Go get him

EspeciallyTheLies · Post Post #2060 (ISO) » Sun May 10, 2015 12:00 pm

In post 2059, Metal Sonic wrote:Mainly cause you can't stfu about lynching yourself

i did stfu about it. no one understands it anyway so whatever.

EspeciallyTheLies · Post Post #2061 (ISO) » Sun May 10, 2015 12:03 pm

Anyway I need to go now. When is the deadline? I wont really be able to post a lot until tomorrow afternoon.

Mina · Post Post #2062 (ISO) » Sun May 10, 2015 12:30 pm

MS, short summaries of your reads on every player that isn't Quilford, go!

(Sorry, still in pop-in mode right now.)

Metal Sonic · Post Post #2063 (ISO) » Sun May 10, 2015 12:48 pm

In post 2014, Metal Sonic wrote:I've established motivation: Why bussing the watch-immune goon was highly unlikely prior to the identification of the Watcher
I've provided evidence: Quilford defending Johnny unnaturally which he would never have done according to his principles of townreading (The importance of analysis and thought process, johnny had shit)
I've established why other suspects are not likely: ETL was responsible for beginning the push onto JF; Mina followed up; Molla was eager to vote scum as well. Patrick was "obvtown" and also interacted with JF strongly in 904. Way more insightful than Quilford had ever show for it #825 and #827

VOTE: quilford

Mina this is a short as it can get

Metal Sonic · Post Post #2064 (ISO) » Sun May 10, 2015 1:01 pm

And I'm pretty sure Zar checked in already Mina

And I guess he's waiting

Point him to #2010

Metal Sonic · Post Post #2065 (ISO) » Sun May 10, 2015 1:19 pm

Zar just flipped.

Help him help us.

Mina please believe in the replacement

Metal Sonic · Post Post #2066 (ISO) » Sun May 10, 2015 1:20 pm

I can't even rant in that thread
Fuck

Patrick · Post Post #2067 (ISO) » Sun May 10, 2015 1:30 pm

Metal Sonic wrote:Just because I "have an agenda" doesn't mean I am wrong. It's a town agenda ffs I want to win as much as you do

I want you to take my faith in reading ETL cause you say there is at least 1 town in me/ms and we are mutually townreading each other (her more so than me)

Yeah, I'm not saying its a scum agenda, but even if I assume you're town, I doubt the validity of your arguments when you enter the game having already decided who the scum is. Posts like 1841 don't make me want to trust your judgement at all.

There is also at least one townie within me/Quilford. Are you happy to take on faith my read of him? Why is your read different?

Ok, I know you were in Antihero. Take Quilford out of the equation for a second, what do you think of ETL's play in this game? Is she trying to work me out? Her last response to me is pretty much exactly what I expected.

Also, why did the last page or so make you feel a great deal of paranoia about me?

Patrick · Post Post #2068 (ISO) » Sun May 10, 2015 1:38 pm

Also, can you talk more about this:

Metal Sonic wrote:Patrick not considering partner associations. Couldn't be ETL cause ETL pushed JF when there was no scum motivation to.

I am considering associations, which you've obviously seen since you've read up on all of day 3 - and this is one of the things that gives me doubt about ETL being scum. But ultimately, she moved her vote off Johnny and onto Quilford, then wasn't around for the deadline, which is a shame because I think that stretch told us plenty.

Patrick · Post Post #2069 (ISO) » Sun May 10, 2015 1:39 pm

Mina, we're at just under 48 hours now. Is the token line of enquiry an important one?

Quilford · Post Post #2070 (ISO) » Sun May 10, 2015 2:18 pm

Hey Mina, Metal thinks youre town. Tell him to look at my meta please.

Quilford · Post Post #2071 (ISO) » Sun May 10, 2015 2:19 pm

I literally can not think of any other way to break the conf bias

Metal Sonic · Post Post #2072 (ISO) » Sun May 10, 2015 2:30 pm

In post 2067, Patrick wrote:
Metal Sonic wrote:Just because I "have an agenda" doesn't mean I am wrong. It's a town agenda ffs I want to win as much as you do

I want you to take my faith in reading ETL cause you say there is at least 1 town in me/ms and we are mutually townreading each other (her more so than me)

Yeah, I'm not saying its a scum agenda, but even if I assume you're town, I doubt the validity of your arguments when you enter the game having already decided who the scum is. Posts like 1841 don't make me want to trust your judgement at all.

There is also at least one townie within me/Quilford. Are you happy to take on faith my read of him? Why is your read different?

Ok, I know you were in Antihero. Take Quilford out of the equation for a second, what do you think of ETL's play in this game? Is she trying to work me out? Her last response to me is pretty much exactly what I expected.

Also, why did the last page or so make you feel a great deal of paranoia about me?

You are doubting the validity of my arguments because of the provenance? That's not even legit and quilford also knows it. How many games have you played with quilford?

My read is different because I see the game with a fresh pair of eyes and break the tinted lens that has been set up slowly throughout the course of the game/d1. Plus, I re evaluate

I'm looking at ETL, trust me. She isn't working with anyone right now which doesn't sit well with me. She doesn't help you to understand quilford scum, she doesn't help me to support the lynching of quilford scum. It's certainly something to look out for

I dunno, probably because if you are scum you win. By stonewalling quilford, if ETL dies today then I die Tmr. If quil dies today and is town then ETL dies tomorrow

EspeciallyTheLies · Post Post #2073 (ISO) » Sun May 10, 2015 2:32 pm

I have been working with you ms. and with Mina.

Metal Sonic · Post Post #2074 (ISO) » Sun May 10, 2015 2:35 pm

In post 2068, Patrick wrote:Also, can you talk more about this:

Metal Sonic wrote:Patrick not considering partner associations. Couldn't be ETL cause ETL pushed JF when there was no scum motivation to.

I am considering associations, which you've obviously seen since you've read up on all of day 3 - and this is one of the things that gives me doubt about ETL being scum. But ultimately, she moved her vote off Johnny and onto Quilford, then wasn't around for the deadline, which is a shame because I think that stretch told us plenty.

I saw it. But quil's only vote on Johnny slot was 2 minutes before deadline. Only vote. When there were 3 people on te wagon and JF death was almost inevitable

Do you think that scum will bus early the watcher immune goon without a dead watched or bus late after the watcher already claimed?